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I don't believe they are on LV-426

I'm with Preston on this one. I don't understand why memebers are constantly trying to steer this movie into Alien. I think it demonstrates a blinkered approach to what Ridley Scott is trying to achieve. He has already said that it is a new story set in the 'Alien' universe and not a direct prequel. I don't believe they are on LV-426, I don't believe it is the derelict from Alien and I don't believe it is the same Space Jockey simply because Ridley Scott is better than this when it comes to making movies.

@Goscustard Why would they have used the SAME EXACT SHIP from Alien in Prometheus for the Space Jockey ship? It would make NO SENSE. Yes in essence this movie is not all about Alien. BUT it is discovering the Engineers and their ship. Which answers questions that we had for Alien, and at the same time moves on to a different story. We are not trying to drive this movie into Alien, this movie will answer a lot of questions that we've had in the past and will take us on a new adventure. To be quite honest, there is plenty of sources out there that prove it is LV-426 and that ship is the Derelict. http://time.absoluteavp.com/time2.html check out the time line thoroughly and it will answer your questions.

I aggree that this has to be LV-426. Notice how the atmosphere is suddenly changing and Shaw is blown away by a powerful wind that looks awfully similar to that of the original Alien movie setting when the crew of Nostromo first set foot on the planet. Also notice in one of the trailers that the ribcage of the Space Jockey sitting in its chair is moving in a strange way, almost as if something is about to burst out from the inside just like it happened to the Space Jockey in the original Alien. And we do know for a fact that the derelect is going to crash on the planet. All this just seems too familiar to be a coinsidence. Also it makes more sense for Ridley Scott to take us back to where it all started than some unknown planet.

Nice to see someone spending some time accumulating all the diffuse information. But I have to ask; isn´t the thing attacking Shaw at 2.13 (full trailer) too small to be the blue guy? I know it could be because this is an earlier state of the transformation, but the big hand coming at Ford at 0.51 (Imax trailer) seem to belong to the big blue guy, and this scene kinda seems to take place earlier in the movie, when they are exploring the star map room. Furthermore at 1.59 (full trailer) the blue guy seems to be rising from one of the sarcophagus (suggesting that he was there to begin with) and at 2.04 he is walking very purposeful and determined towards the chair, like a preprogrammed creature with a clear mission.

@LV426JGFPM "SAME EXACT SHIP"? Did you ever see the Star Trek episode The Doomsday Machine? The USS Constellation look exactly like the USS Enterprise but it was a different ship just the same design. In the original Battlestar Galactica tv series the Battlestar Pegasus looked exactly like the Battlestar Galactica but it was a different ship just the same design. The last time I took my car to be serviced there was another car in the showroom that looked like mine but it was a different car just the same design. You're assuming that the 'god like race of Space Jockeys' only have one space ship between them. Even Eddie Stobart has got multiple vehicles. As for the timeline, I'm pretty sure Ridley Scott doesn't turn to an internet fan page before he sets about making a multi million pound movie. This is what I mean when I said 'blinkered'. A lot of members are trying to tie this movie down with assumptions rather than approach it as something new and original with connections to the Alien universe. I hope I'm not coming across as a bit of a git, I'm just trying to understand why people can't open their minds to something of a much larger scale than just 'an Alien prequel'.

Yeah it's been bugging me too that people automatically assume that ship is the Derelict one. I'm sure a spacefaring species able to create and transform planets would have more than one spaceship, either that OR it's the last ship of their species with the remaining survivor of their species onboard. . .

It seems logical to assume it's the same ship. I guess because of how it ends up crashing! Plus it's hard to get away from the fact that this is an Alien prequel of sorts despite how the film makers seem to be distancing it as such.

@db73 It's only 'logical' to assume that it is the same ship if you're trying to reverse engineer the plot of Prometheus from the plot of Alien. This is what I mean when I say blinkered.

In one of my first contributions to this forum I adressed just this problem. I don´t believe this planet is LV-426, for two reasons: a) the planet is completely different. The landscape where the derelict falls after the collision with "Prometheus" is completely different from the place where the Nostromo crew found the Derelict, and those morphologic changes in the terrain couldn´t happen in a span of 30 years (even volcanism eg. lava would have affected the derelict also); b) the planet not being LV-426 and the ship not being the Derelict provides "storytelling space" for a second "Prometheus" movie, this one being probably the real prequel to Alien _ something I think Scott is upon.

@Goscustard Why are you so intent on labelling everyone 'blinkered' for having a point of view different to yourself? Surely that makes you the most blinkered person on here! No-one knows for certain whether this planet is LV-426 - it's all speculation? You may well be correct in your assumptions that this can't be LV-426, on the other hand, you may be wrong. 'Soooooo wrong'! For what it's worth, here's my theory: (which may also be 'ssssooooo wrong)' The planet IS indeed LV-426, but it undergoes a cataclysmic change as a result of events in Prometheus / Promethues '2' (if there is one). The whole planet is altered - atmosphere, bone like landscape etc. The derelict is affected by the same process - thus 'fossilizing' the SJ and changing the urns into eggs, and altering the structure of the ship. Perhaps this cataclysmic transformation emanates from the SJ ship itself - it is damaged as it crashes, the un-holy power locked in the urns escapes to mutate the ship, SJ, the urns themselves (into eggs) and the entire planet / atmosphere. To summarise - LV-426 itself is mutated/altered: lansdscape, ships, urns/eggs, SJ and all. A cataclysmic event which alters everything on the planet, inclusing the planet itself, at a molecular level.

@ centrosphere, the problem with your second point is you would have a second Prometheus movie with yet another Derelict crashing!?!

@Dropyourlinen I haven't labelled anyone as 'blinkered', I also haven't assumed anything. I'm trying to understand why people are assuming so much about Prometheus from the plot of Alien which is a blinkered approach. Ridley Scott said he wanted to create a grand new mythology based in the Alien universe and that face huggers and chestbursters have been done to death. He's trying to take the franchise in a new direction and a lot of people are desperately trying to steer it back to Alien. RS is too good a film maker to simply present us with a movie about how the Derelict ended up on LV-426. If that's what you're expecting then disappointment is imminent.

I have a stupid question: In Alien, aside from it being an assumption- was there any evidence that the derelict crashed? I know the SJ ship in Prometheus stays remarkably intact after bumping with Prometheus, but LV426 and it's insanely rocky terrain would have obliterated any craft that crashed there. I think the derelict was LANDED on LV426. It did not crash there. Nothing could have survived that, and this opens up the possibility that this is NOT the same ship. All space shuttles looked the same, all C130s look the same, all Apache gunships look the same. Just because this ship looks like the derelict means nothing.

@Gocustard You ARE assuming something! Your assuming it isn't LV-426! Be ffwc sy mater efo chdi! Do you not at least concede that it MIGHT be LV-426? I'm not 'expecting' anything, I'm purely speculating. Theories are just proposed versions, not actuality. I doubt very much whether I'll be disappointed by this film. I just find it amusing that you, and others here, are so convinced by your own theories that you label a conflicting theory as 'blinkered'!

@Dropyourlinen I think maybe you should read all my posts again. I've not assumed anything or stated any theories. I did say that I don't understand why so many forum members are trying to steer this movie into Alien? I find it amusing that you and many others can only connect the planet in Prometheus to LV-426 by saying that 'the alien goo did it', which sounds like something from the Uwe Boll school of film making rather than Scott and Lindelof. Is it blinkered to hope that Prometheus is heading somewhere new? Is it blinkered to hope that there is more than one Derelict styled spaceship in the universe? Is it blinkered to hope that Prometheus is going to offer us something different from what we've already seen?

Now, now everyone calm down... We each have our own opinions, views and hopes as to what we will and won't see in Prometheus, our ideas may be right, they may be wrong. None of us will know for sure until the film comes out, until then it is just speculation, nothing more. Agree to disagree and move one. @ Goscustard - please supply a definition of what you mean by "Blinkered" so as not to avoid confusion among the other members of the forum!

I used the word 'blinkered' to describe a narrow viewpoint because if you focus all your attention on linking the end of Prometheus to the events in Alien then you will become unaware of the bigger picture. It is not intended to be a derogatory term to any individual especially as I originally said "I think it demonstrates a blinkered approach to what Ridley Scott is trying to achieve." I suppose Prometheus can be seen as the start of the journey through the Alien universe where Alien(the movie) is only one of many possible stops. I personally would prefer to head to a different destination and see something new but still related, and I have faith in Ridley Scott that he will deliver this.

@Gocustard I theorise that, at the end of Prometheus, a predator, with Ridley Scott's head will emerge from the derelict, wearing huge blinkers constructed of fosilized alien goo. The planet will then slowly change into change into a video game version of itself, in which pixilated versions of myself and Gocustard are fighting each other using rolled up film posters of Alien Resurrection. There will then be three further prequel films, the last of which will reveal that LV-426 is in fact Planet of The Apes

At last you've come up with a worth while theory. We're going to have to do some serious editing to the Alien timeline though. And is there any way we can get a semi-clad Jessica Alba involved on horseback killing aliens? That'd be awesome.