Cinefan
MemberOvomorph02/18/2012There's no doubt in my mind people will be dissapointed. If you build it up so much and it doesn't reach your expectations you'll be let down. Despite anybody that didn't like Cameron's Aliens, he made the movie his own and tried to expand the story as opposed to rehashing what was previously done.
red hood
MemberOvomorph02/18/2012What build up? I bet you go on the common street and ask about prometheus, and most people will not know what your talking about. If anything 20th/ Fox has done a horrible job getting the word out. Only people this could affect are us fanboys. Then possibly so.
Raven
MemberOvomorph02/18/2012Ciefan , agreed. I think if fans go in with no expectations and don't compare Prometheus to Alien too much and just enjoy the ride they will be pleased. It will be extremely hard to one up or make a movie on par with Alien partially because we as a society have become desensitized to movies in general. Think about it for a minute , the Chestburster scene, multiple scenes in The Exorcist probably a few others I can't recall .Violence and gore at that level and believability were never seen or put on film until these films came out and this is why they are still talked about to this day. The pure newness of these types of scenes led to the shock and hit harder then. I really believe the chestburster scene if done today would not have the impact it did in '79 , although still very cool.
Raven
MemberOvomorph02/18/2012red hood ,I was talking about us. Most people I talk to when movies come up are like "oh, I might check that out when it comes out on DVD". At this point I realize,they don't get it.
want-to-see-prometheusNOW!
MemberOvomorph02/18/2012Raven, let's not forget Empire Strikes Back. That was IMO superior to the original.
I also worry this new film will turn out not to be what I thought it was, that maybe it's actually quite predictable if it's too much like the original Alien. From looking at the trailer it seems like a repeat of what took place in the first. Explorers go into a ship, one of them gets infected, and things get complicated from there. But at the same time, I can't see how Ridley would simply just follow the same thread. I think he knows better.
I guess it wouldn't be too much to ask that the movie have at least 3 qualities. One, that it has something unexpected in it at least. Two, it has an interesting idea, which kind of ties into what I previously said. I wonder what his take is going to be on the origins of mankind. I find that aspect of the story intriguing. And three, that it scares the living daylights out of us. I don't care if it's gorey, gross, or has a lot of violence. I've never been one for gore, anyway. And the originals -Alien 1 and 2 - had a few strong scenes, but were never a gore fest, but incredibly scary.
Anyway, if it has these three qualities, then my expectations will be satisfied. Is this asking too much? Tell me if you think I'm setting myself up for disappointment.
Raven
MemberOvomorph02/18/2012I think you have the right attitude going into this. How could I forget Empire ,good call.Ridley is a quality film maker and I love his vision ,especially in the Sci Fi genre, with that being said I am going into this with the expectations this won't be on par with Alien primarily because no movie I have ever seen is equal to it in originality or quality. Just look at how this film has aged compared to Aliens. IMO Alien could come out today with a few tweaks and look as good as anything out there today especially after I saw the Blue Ray version.Aliens , not so much
want-to-see-prometheusNOW!
MemberOvomorph02/18/2012Oh definitely! I'd much prefer the visuals of Alien or the original star wars films over the cgi films of today. There were limits to what you could actually do with the technology back then in terms of their activities, but the visuals looked more organic, and therefore felt more connected to reality.
wheresbasky?
MemberOvomorph02/18/2012I think the best course of action for us all is to leave this site 'til we've seen the movie and be like the the masses and try and remain oblivious to the plot/storyline!!! that way we can retain an open mind,then critique it after!!!......no.....,I don't think I could either!!!
Shane
MemberOvomorph02/19/2012I have faith it will be a good film.
I also, sadly, think it is going to be a flop...only hardcore scifi fans seem interested. Very few people outside of those realms even know it is being made. Or care.
Ruth
MemberOvomorph02/19/2012What? Does it mean that this movie is going to be a flop just because batman fans, who think every movie except The Dark Knight Rises is shit, don't find it interesting? I don't care about this, popularity doesn't make movies good.
And yes, Batman hardcore fans are really like that. I like Nolan and Batman too,but, oh god, just look at them.
Shane
MemberOvomorph02/19/2012I don't think it flopping has anything to do with Batman[what does this thread even have to do with Batman?], I think it is going to flop because we are 4 months out and the hype train doesn't seem to be leaving the station. I think it will flop because from the sound of thing the budget is very high and it is a niche market film. Also, it is a tough summer market this year. I think the March release date may have been a better idea. I just can't see this being a summer Blockbuster even though I would love for it to be one [that is if it is any good, it might be complete shit for all we know]. Is there still a market for intelligent scifi films in the mainstream movie going world?
Ridley Scott has had a lot of bombs in his career. Good films for sure but just box office disappointments, I can see this being another.
Popularity has nothing to do with it till you are looking at sequels or funding for another film. This bombs I think they will not want to dump a ton more into another Ridley Scott Scifi flick. Which would be a shame.
Ruth
MemberOvomorph02/19/2012I mentioned Batman because almost everyone expects this to be one of the best movies of 2012 (and the best of summer movies) because Nolan is genius for them. So fans (trolls too) are trashing almost every movie that's comming this summer.
I agree about March release but I think there's enough time to promote this movie for general audiences (if it's PG13). Also, being a flop in box office could avoid the movie from making a sequel and that's good, because I wouldn't enjoy a sequel of Prometheus (but that's OT).
craigamore
MemberOvomorph02/19/2012First off.....while I am really excited about 'The Dark Knight Rises', I'm a huge Batman fan, my level of interest in it doesn't even lick the shoes of the Titan of obsession I have brewing in anticipation for a prequel to my all time favorite film, 'Alien'.....and besides, while I want it to do well, ultimately, I'm only concerned about its quality. Is the damn thing good or not.....? And to all of those Batman fans who feel like they have to prop 'The Dark Knight Rises' up as though its public standing versus other summer flicks affects their own meeger existences......[b]who the hell bloody cares[/b]...........I hope they're both amazing.....
Second....I posted the following on that chestbuster thread you mentioned and I think it's relevant to your concerns.........
"......that scene is known, not just for its immediate shock on the audience, but its affect on the filmic landscape. There hadn't been anything like it before; it was unique and that simple fact, made it that much more disturbing and profoundly so. It's one of those scenes that stands alone, untouchable and untoppable.....you can bloody up these actors all you want, but it's almost impossible these days to bring something that different, with that kind of immediate, visceral and cultural impact. And that's not to say Ridley won't have something amazing waiting for us, but even he will have a hard time delivering something new like that, because you can't predict these things. You can't predict the impact of something like 'Alien' and, specifically, the chestburster scene. When it was written, when it was designed, shot and edited, people expected a reaction.....no one could have predicted the tidalwave it generated.
I do hope 'Prometheus' is as successful; heck....I can only pray it's as good. It's always nice to see something as original and visceral with that kind of impact.....but I'm not expecting it, I'm not hanging on every scene..waiting for it, I'm not even hoping for it, because I don't want to place impossible expectations on something that looks as promising as 'Prometheus'. If it does possess anything that impressive, I'll be eternally impressed and smitten with it......but if I expect and anticipate greatness, then I darn well better be ready for dissappointment as well, at least the possibility....and I'm not ready for that.
'Prometheus' looks amazing, everything about it screams the fantastic and the intelligent so often lacking in contemporary sci-fi that we always hope for and rarely receive.........the chestburster scene IS legendary......don't anticipate legendary....sit back, enjoy it for what it is and maybe, just maybe we'll all pleasantly be surprised and have something to talk about 33 years from now we can all call legendary and in the same company as the chestburster and, ultimately, 'Alien'.
Just don't go shooting yourselves in the foot looking for it........"