Stand Alone Film: Letting go of the past

Does not and will not upset me in the least if their are none, might even be better without them, but I also think their is NO DOUBT given this is a Scott/Giger project that we will see something, some creature, just as if not far more Terrifying than the original "Murderous Theif"..."The Internecivus Raptus".

Yeah..I think we are going to see something far more sinister and darker than we could of imagined....and this film is going to be dark in tone and one hell of a ride..I dont think that I will be able to sleep after watching this film, lol.

You stated it yourself "Scott is distancing himself away from Cameron and the other film makers responsible for the later films". The only thing that appeared in Alien, but not the subsequent sequels was the Space Jockey.

"alot of people" upset that they won't see xenos? where? this thread seems totally unnecessary. not to mention you post a bunch of self comforting tripe about how it'll be even darker and more sinister. that may well be, but you're just making assumptions, same as the people who believe this to be a xeno movie. it may very well not be compatible with any of our assumptions at this point.

My first introduction into the Alien universe was when I was about 8. That was 1981. I was at a yard sale and I found some "baseball" cards that had scenes from the movie on the front and a little synopsis of the scene on the back. Some of the cards had pieces of a picture on the back like a puzzle that when put together formed a picture of the SJ. I also got a copy of Cinemafantastique (sp?) magazine that was a special Alien production issue. I begged my dad to buy them for me which he did (he was also a fan of the movie). Since I had never seen the movie (I was too young and VCRs weren't really around yet), I had to wait a few years and it was shown on TV (about the time Aliens came out in theaters). I begged my dad to let me watch it, which he did. I made it all the was to the point where the Alien burst out of Kane's chest then ran to my room and watched the rest of the movie from behind the couch. None of the other films (good/bad/indifferent) have made me feel that scared and thrilled at the same time. My point is if this new film does that, then I do not care if I see an Alien. It was the thrill of the movie that made it memorable for me.

The other people I meant was in other forums on various sites...and yes, I am making assumptions as everyone else does but in truth, like many of you, I have no clue what scott is going to throw my way...fact is Scott is straying away from the other films and keeping to this one and Alien... Scott hinted this to be a dark story...thats what I mean by sinister...nothing more. It's Scott's universe, I am just along for the ride...

Scott has said that we will see something that is familiar to the original but much bigger and do very peverse things ....... the original leaked trailer also has some hints at something shooting from an egg or hole, snake or tenticle like ........... I don't think we will be dissapointed with the creature in the film :))

Sorry if I insert myself in the forum: I'm new and I send greetings to all. I tell you, as a great fan of the series "Alien" by R. Scott, who despite several decades have elapsed from the first original TRUE Alien, I am optimistic for the prequel to the series. I think Scott has hit the shot again, and my instinct tells me that we will see the results ...

sorry I didn't say something sooner Caine1977 ... Walterhiller, I am just butting in here to say there have been a lot... I have noticed them as well.... over the course of the last 6 months here on these boards and in various threads. Also, it seems t me you might have been a bit rough there when you said to Caine1977... "you post a bunch of self comforting tripe about how it'll be even darker and more sinister". But Scott has inferred this himself ! & on the 3 teaser trailers he just released as well, he mentions how much more terrible the things are that are dine in this film than what he has done in the past and on the third one I think he is adamant about how "some little things are going to do some great big terrible things". I do not think it is "self comforting" at all to expect the best from, Ridley Scott or to trust him to know what scares people in films, do you have a film to show us that you made that could better help me to understand what you mean by that? What is it that you have against him and all of this?

I agree with many of the comments above. I for one am actually more excited by the prospect of an "offshoot" of the alien universe as described by Ridley Scott saying 'no xenomorphs'. His statement that this specific creature has lost shock value is probably accurate. We don't need to passively watch it chase more people down corridors - we can enjoy this 1st hand in video games; and we certainly don't want to see the Xenomorph 'corrupted' again like in Alien Ressurection. The iconic Alien has proved 'perfect' in it's entertainment role and got to a stage where sequels can't improve or add more. The opportunity for new 'hard-sci-fi' ideas in an offshoot his hugely exciting. alien - ultimate horror-movie in-sci fi setting aliens - ultimate action-movie in sci-fi setting then prometheus, ultimate 'hard-sci-fi' movie (like a dark 2001) Infact after reading those comments I was almost a slightly disappointed* to see the trailer looking "a lot like alien".. *well, more like excitement down to 99% as opposed to 100%. If Alien was frightening.. and a hoard of them was thrilling ... think what could be done with the species that engineered it ! Mind boggling stuff. It MUST prominently feature Geiger art style though. I was a bit worried to read 'another production designer' somewhere. Other sci-fis want to do Geiger art and we always say "hah thats a rip off of alien" when we see it, but the one place it is definitely in-context, and very welcome would be here..

@Cain1977: GREAT POST! (insert standing ovation here) seriously. Great post. @Walterchiller: what island have you been living on? i've read all too many times that folks are "upset" at the idea that Scott will most likely stay away from the ABSOLUTE MESS Cameron made with the um "Xenos" if you want to read pointless "self-comforting" drivel, just read your own post.

I agree with walterhiller.

I think it's a great thread.....in the beginning when i learned that their won't be any xeno's....I was a little disappointed...that was until i delved a little deeper into the ideas that Scott hinted at....it sounds good and I mean it is not a movie about the xeno....it will definitely explain how they came about......but it is more about where WE come from as a species ....and maybe we will see a glimpse of the alien we all familiar with...which won't hurt the movie in my opinion....but either way....the xeno's are not essential to this brand new story.....so i am not gonna really miss them....

....as for Aliens by Cameron.....I think that movie is fantastic...even better than alien in my humble little opinion...and no one needs to agree with me on this! But I do have a great respect for the original ridley masterpiece....it started the whole franchise....I am sure even Ridley would agree that Aliens was a good movie....it's the movies that followed that started to slowly destroy the franchise......not to mention the the stupid avp movies....i kinda view them as instantly enjoyable.....but largely forgettable....I have no intention of seeing any of those movies again.... Great as aliens was.....I think they should have just stopped right there!.....it did explain where the eggs came from...in a very straight forward and plausible kinda way...i did'nt mind that big xeno bitch tho....I thought she was awesome! But slipping a bit of topic.....Prometheus is about us as the human species and how we came about...the xeno's as i see it....is just a byproduct...

I would like to say that It was not my intention to offend with this thread but say what alot of people are feeling. I love Alien and Aliens as any other hardcore fan but I miss the dark mytho's that was created with Alien...as each film was made, each director brought their vision of the creature, which needless to say grew more comic through the series and lost it's luster. As stated, Scott as he said himself is straying away from the series and pretty much sticking to Alien, so Prometheus and Alien will book end each other. This is a new story and we know the last 8 minutes will surely explain Alien and I am sure we all will have our jaws and tongues touching the floor of the theater. The Alien will play a small part in this film , which leads to Alien, which is all about him. So, if you are offended, then please by all means, you have the ability to click in and out of the thread and not read it. Neither am I here to take jabs and start fights over something I have no control over. It's fun being here and discussing ideas and what may or may not happen...we are all here because we are die hard Alien/Scott fans and want to see something dark, sinister and down right frightful happen on that screen, so that when we go home, we will be looking under our beds and in our closets to make sure there is nothing in there to get us...so with that said, I bid you all Adieu and will catch you all later my Alien peeps....peace! Cain

From the point of view of creature effects I agree completely with you Juxtapose, but not that one movie is better than any of the others, I like em all and think they each being something unique and special to the table.