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Batchpool
MemberFacehuggerJan-11-2013 11:06 PMIf you have’nt already read it, you will realiase that the link/reference I put into it will will bring you back to this thread. What will bake your noodle later is when you look at the posting dates and then try working out which came first, the xeno or the goo.
There are quite a few discussions arising about the development of Paradise. What I have noticed is that to discuss certain elements of Prometheus or Paradise it is necessary to look at film releases that have been shaped or in the process of being shaped by the ideas developed from Prometheus. There have certainly been quite a few discussions on the nature of goo and what it does. To make any advance on these discussions I really need to refer to my Sept 2013 thread.
Film release dates are very important to the nature of any topic for discussion as they provide a valuable point of reference when looking at what was known at that time. I mention this because Prometheus was in production and then released whilst Elysium was only in production. The virals for Prometheus seemed to have influenced Elysium and also the expectation of Paradise IMO has been influential in creating the main theme for Elysium. My big point here is, has Elysium hacked into the potential success of Paradise by hijacking ideas developed from Prometheus. I can see this being a very big area of discussion.
As something of a side point. Getting back to the nature of goo,and what develops from it. As a bioweapon I can only really discuss this with those who have seen the following link below. Bear in mind ‘to create one must first destroy’.
[url=http://youtu.be/tL5eP_LjWP8]Joseph Kulper[/url]
*Link fixed by Svanya
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cuponator3000
MemberChestbursterJan-12-2013 12:18 AMare you using the video as a refeernece to possibilities or uses of the black goo inprometheus? but what does elysium have to do with it? sorry for what may be obvious questions or ones that i am supposed to answer, but i personally cant mold things like this to make sense to myself like others on the site
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nostromo001
MemberOvomorphJan-12-2013 1:11 AMBatchpool, I hope you don't seriously believe Joseph Kulper or expect intelligent viewers to! If you are putting us on then I have to admit halfway through this video I thought it might be true, but when he started talking about the development of a nontraditional virus called elysium that is spread by simply watching that video I realized it was a hoax. If you notice the response below the Youtube video they point out that the video does manage to separate the intelligent from the gullible. I do not mean to insult you but that statement by a previous viewer should give you pause for thought if you have not on your own figured out that the video is a hoax. Simply stated, there is no way in hell that you can infect people by some nonbiological virus that he says is not even a computer virus, by watching a video. Please don't tell me that you believe this!! If you are putting us on then please come forward and say so as not everyone that reads posts like this or watch videos like that have the mental acuity to distinguish the difference between reality and delusion. Such people could fall prey to anxiety brought on by belief in such ideas with unpredictable results. I await your response.
Nostromo0001
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nostromo001
MemberOvomorphJan-12-2013 1:29 AMBatchpool, OK I just figured out what this video is from. Go [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elysium_(film)]here[/url] and you will find a description of a Sci fi movie that is coming out this year staring Jodie Foster and Matt Damon called Elisium. I have only just heard about this movie thanks to you so I wonder how many busy people out there have not heard of it yet either. I guess any knowledgeable Sci Fi geek should have already heard about it and it is probably written about somewhere on this Scified site. Ive just been too focused on Prometheus and Blade Runner 2 to have heard about it. I am guessing there are a bunch of people here who have already heard about it so I feel kinda silly for taking it seriously. I wish you would have stated where it came from before I wrote that post above. Oh Well!
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Svanya
AdminPraetorianJan-12-2013 1:44 AM@nostromo001; From what I have heard, that movie, Elysium, will be really good. I love Neill Blomkamp, his live action "Halo" movies and District 9 were amazing.
-->[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-cYgf6WyGA&feature=youtu.be]Elysium trailer 2013 NEW[/url]
-->[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YyU8w6OBTg]Elysium Comic-Con Panel & Interviews[/url]
-->[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BaVb2TlWb0]Halo Movie 2012 - FULL - By Neill Blomkamp[/url]
nostromo001
MemberOvomorphJan-12-2013 2:03 AMActually I just rewatched this video and it is unrelated to Elysium. It is referring to a so called psycogenetic virus called Elysia. Watch this thing and you tell me what you think. The posters on Youtube are mixing it up with Elysium and that is creating a false connection which is increasing the confusion caused by this hoax viral video.
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Batchpool
MemberFacehuggerJan-12-2013 8:21 AM@ Cuponator3000
In part, yes, I am referring to possible uses of black goo in Prometheus. Also the word Elysium comes from a Greek concept of the afterlife, ‘Paradise’ possibly.
@ Nostromo001
Sorry I have not been able to reply a little earlier to you.
I have made reference to this film earlier on this site, in fact months ago. At that time I realised it was much too early to make any further reference to Elysium, until now.
More info appeared about the background to Elysium only after the release of Prometheus which got me wondering what was going on. Since more threads are being posted about Paradise and because Elysium will be released before Paradise, I am pretty sure more and more people will start to see quite a few parallels emerging between the two.
nostromo001
MemberOvomorphJan-12-2013 11:10 AMFrom what I can see it is a dystopian future movie with an extraterrestrial invasion and subsequent war. It may be a good movie. But nothing to do with that link posted above. That one is a clever and amusing hoax that will actually fool some people like Orson Wells Mercury theater radio production of war of the worlds fooled a whole population of listeners on Oct 30, 1938. Its amazing what people will fall for!
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javablue
MemberOvomorphJan-12-2013 11:16 AM@ nostro re Orson Welles radio broadcast.
It is amazing - if one radio broadcast can do that, imagine what a six month viral campaign can do - turn domes into pyramids for one.
Batchpool
MemberFacehuggerJan-12-2013 12:11 PM@ Nostro
Cheers for the heads up on the Elysium viral you watched, cos unfortunately that is not the same Elysium. I think the use of the word Elysium is going to present a bit of a head ache to the viral campaigners. Well spotted Nostro, I’d forgotten about that one.
The Elysium I’m referring to is the Matt Damon one which is set in the Year 2159. There is a company called Armadyne Corporation which likes to build better worlds and would appear to be Weyland Industries under another name. In this case Elysium is a man made space station for the rich (the Peter Weyland types). Earth on the other hand is a dump and so there are two social classes. Armadyne seem to have a hand in everything from genetic engineering to military.
try this
[url=http://youtu.be/9-cYgf6WyGA]Your text to link here...[/url]
caenorhabhditis
MemberOvomorphJan-12-2013 2:26 PMahahahaha!!! i wonder how long before anyone else wouldve spotted that... i didnt xD
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caenorhabhditis
MemberOvomorphJan-12-2013 2:28 PMgasps TIME DILATION!!!! o-O
I LIKE WORMS! I LOVE WORMS!
nostromo001
MemberOvomorphJan-12-2013 2:47 PMThat now makes a lot more sense Batchpool. I now see the connection.
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Batchpool
MemberFacehuggerJan-12-2013 2:51 PM@ Hicks
Bravo :)
Just be sure to read through my first paragraph very carefully.
@ Caenorhabhditis
So it was'nt a mistake :)
HICKS
MemberOvomorphJan-12-2013 3:10 PMwasn't a mistake???? Ups! sorry!
But!
You have edited the text?
Do not remember reading this before! (What you refer)
HICKS
MemberOvomorphJan-12-2013 3:39 PMI really find it very interesting view point, but would be even more interesting, if you gave a more precise your idea
Batchpool
MemberFacehuggerJan-12-2013 4:15 PM@ Hicks
It’s the film release date. At that point I will post a thread that relates back to this one. The links in this I can use as reference points without writing new threads later down the line, if that makes sense. What will look odd though is any back reference made to this thread after Sept
By the way I did’nt re-edit any of the text in this thread.
Hope your OK with this explanation.
Batchpool
MemberFacehuggerJan-18-2013 1:11 PMA thread has its reign, then it dies. Unless of course you try harder and engineer a way of getting it more life.
If you are following this thread at all, I appreciate your patience in getting to this point.
So, just whereabouts in time are we? More to the point, where in time are you the reader. Is it January or September or maybe sometime else? The main thing is that you’re reading this now. Not long ago I wrote a thread titled ‘Cancer’, which looked at a theme that appeared to be lying in the background of Prometheus and the rest of the Alien films. Like there is something that recurs yet ties things in, and after jumping through different reference points in time pulls things together.
Might be worth seeing this
[url=http://youtu.be/ByehYal_cCs]Cloud Atlas[/url]
I have already raised a couple of points at the beginning of this thread those being
Goo, Kelper, Elysium and Paradise.
Looking at these four points on their own does not really make anything jump out as yet. What I hope to achieve is to show and then discuss further is the dystopian type of films that are currently being released.
Maybe you have already come across these?
[url=http://youtu.be/XmIIgE7eSak]Oblivion[/url]
[url=http://youtu.be/e2qdvELqskc]After Earth[/url]
For now I would like to leave you with this thought
If goo is a virus, are xeno’s the anti-virus?
(Thank you for your patience with this very odd thread.)
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