Spartacus
MemberOvomorphMay-25-2012 6:14 PMwho did I get used to having violate me exactly?
Svanya
AdminPraetorianMay-25-2012 5:31 PMYes, I can see the resemblance, it's very clear especially the "mouth" parts. :)
abordoli
MemberOvomorphMay-25-2012 5:34 PMI saw a funny quote about this "seam".....
[i]What was your inspiration for the design of the egg?[/i]
The egg is related to my work insofar as it is an element essential to a rt noveau, of which, in a way, I am a representative. In O'Bannon's script, he top of the egg wasn't organic, but completely mechanical. I didn't like it that way. So I built up this egg with a top like a vagina. But when the producers turned up in my studio, they exclaimed, 'Oh, that's too specific! We can't show such things in Catholic countries. Can't you change the egg just a little bit?" So to satisfy Catholic audiences, I modified the egg, and made the opening a cross on the top. I like the openingof the egg in the film. They used real meat from a slaughterhouse, mmmm.
[i]How come the producers never objected to the Alien's head being the shape of a penis? Or is this perhaps why the creature is shown so briefly?[/i]
Any long thing is phallic, in a way, and what you say for the head is not so obvious as the vagina was for the egg! There was no censorship whatever about it, and I repeat that the Alien is shown very briefly because it was Ridley Scott and Hans Giger's idea, not anybody else's.
[url=http://www.littlegiger.com/articles/files/Cinefantastique_09_01.pdf]SOURCE[/url] - Posted by Spartacus [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/4585]HERE[/url]
Id Rather Be Eatin Something Else
MemberOvomorphMay-25-2012 5:40 PMThere's a few other resemblances/DNA hints that I feel bear a resemblance to Alien and I shal endeavour to post them too shortly, alright. Many Kind regards to you and thanks too Svanya... Much appriciated. :- )
BigDave
MemberDeaconMay-25-2012 5:40 PMSo the Cobrahugger is maybe the Proto Egg? and Face Hugger in one Organism.
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Id Rather Be Eatin Something Else
MemberOvomorphMay-25-2012 5:46 PMVery true Abordoli. Very true indeed1 I remeber hearing/reading up on that a while back too!
Just think if they had gone the distance and we saw the eggs indeed opening up like a scattering of vagina-orifices!? That would be very challenging and I do hope Ridley Scott challenges our squeemish natures during this enterprise of Prometheus! However, I do think they should play upon womens fears of intrusion and internal non-desired impregnation as I think as I said in an earlier thread it is time for women to be made to feel extremely uncomfortable as men were made to feel when Alien originally came out. (And er... no punn intended!) lol! :- )
abordoli
MemberOvomorphMay-25-2012 5:47 PM[i]Dare I ask what it wa Abordoli! heh! :- )[/i]
Huh?
[i]However, I do think they should play upon womens fears of intrusion and internal non-desired impregnation as I think as I said in an earlier thread it is time for women to be made to feel extremely uncomfortable as men were made to feel when Alien originally came out.[/i]
I disagree. Women have been raped & violated enough in REAL LIFE, that I think we should stick to the men getting it as a courtesy to women across the world (and for millennia). I, personally, am uncomfortable seeing women violated....PERIOD (including film). This is just my humble opinion though.
Id Rather Be Eatin Something Else
MemberOvomorphMay-25-2012 5:48 PMHmmm... Its worth consideration as a potential possibility. If not direct then on the road towards something else that we eventually see later on.
Id Rather Be Eatin Something Else
MemberOvomorphMay-25-2012 5:50 PMAbordoli before I got chance to add my comment that was a question to your former comment you had already posted the answer so I was late in responding which made things appear confusing. When you were talking about the "seam". There was a delay in my response thats all. Sorry, o.k. :- )
Constealltion88
MemberOvomorphMay-25-2012 6:02 PMo_0.....
Anybody wonder what % of all our comparisons will come into fruition?
Svanya
AdminPraetorianMay-25-2012 6:11 PMYeah agreed with Abordoli, the whole reason Alien worked was the fact that men are so unused to being violated in real life. They knew that showing a female getting violated would be a huge turnoff and would not work.
P.S I'm female :P
Spiderbabe83
MemberOvomorphMay-25-2012 6:24 PMYes I agree also, women need a break real life is hard enough on a day to day bases.
Id Rather Be Eatin Something Else
MemberOvomorphMay-25-2012 6:30 PMLook Admin and members alike, don't get me wrong, I hear what you're saying. I'm simply getting to the root core of what made ALien work also. As well as it being role reversal and the fear onus being placed firmly at the mens door the way Alien worked was to get right to the core of what was taboo, and that was and still is issues of rape whether male or female, ( other examples that are not necessarily in the film but sereve as taboo topics for uncomfortable discussion within film - some any way for obvious reasons, i.e: incest, peadeophillia, same-sex issues/relations, transexuality, etc.) Theres probably more and of course and obviously I am not advocating rape or what-not I'm merely considering those themes and topics which make us cringe and turn our toes up at the horrid insidiousness of it works like a dream when committed to film and especially when it is incorperated in and amongst a potential high-end example like that of Prometheus.
Spartacus
MemberOvomorphMay-25-2012 6:40 PMThis is a beautiful and "nasty" thread baby...that's just how I like it !!! Ridley and Giger wanted this thing "To Make Men Squirm in their Seats" !!! "and that's the twuth"...spoken like a child like Lilly Tomlin !
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Spartacus
MemberOvomorphMay-25-2012 6:34 PMThe truth is speaking for my post I was kidding and have always felt Ridley and giger's intent was clear..."nough said" I agree on the whole they were sick and wanted it to be much more hard core in fact...what Can I say I've read a lot by them on the subject matter at hand.End of Post #5052 lmao !!!
Mr.J
MemberOvomorphMay-25-2012 7:01 PMAfter seeing Prometheus, I am sure many us here, men mainly will go home and feel uncomfortable and cower in the corner and just cry, yet we will go back see the movie like 3 or 4 times...I already warned my GF to hold me when I get home from the midnight premiere...
John D.
MemberOvomorphMay-25-2012 7:11 PMRemember, it's not just that men being 'raped' so to speak is about being violated - it's also a nasty inversion (or perversion, if you like) of the natural order of things (for humans, anyhow).
Id Rather Be Eatin Something Else
MemberOvomorphMay-25-2012 7:44 PMYes, Cain1977, you do have to be considerate don't you. That is very true John D, very true indeed!
Biehn_Bandit
MemberOvomorphMay-25-2012 7:49 PMLet's not start getting squeamish now. Horror does not discriminate. Everyone and everything is fair game.
Mr.J
MemberOvomorphMay-25-2012 7:55 PMwhat is going to be more is the IMAX/3D..it will be in your face....jumping right at you....so, that will make the movie much more memorable..
Spartacus
MemberOvomorphMay-26-2012 8:21 AMI repeat...This is a beautiful and "nasty" thread baby...that's just how WE like it !