abordoli
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 3:46 PMNow what makes you theorize that there is human already on the planet, exactly?
NoXWord
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 3:48 PMWhat if the guy in the second image is also a SJ and we don't have much footage to verify differences/similarities?
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born.
Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.
gameover man
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 3:50 PM@abordoli...
"if these holograms are in fact logs stumbled across by David and friends, that there was, and maybe still is, a human on the planet, and had already had an incident"
if the holograms are a LOG, than its a record of something that already happened. thats what we've theorized the presence of the holograms to be (majority anyhow). the "where were they going" when you see them running suggests it.
Forever War
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 3:51 PMYep...a hologram log of sorts....and yep again on people, lots of people...humans taken there willingly, treated with benevolence...many ages lived there in a lush world..when the Baldies appeared to die, many structures were built around the high tech artifacts left behind...probably explained by the writings David is reading.
David 1
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 3:51 PMI'm open to speculation. It is possible there might have been a diferent expedition to the planet [great for a hidden plot within the plot].
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]
Windood
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 3:52 PMi think people just need to sit tight, wind each other up (gently), and wait.
23 days now, am going to have the day off and go to the fist available showing :-)
Windood
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 3:53 PMmaybe its not a hologram at all, or a made up log, maybe its technology we kow nothing about, like how he gets around the ship so fast?
no one knows.
JP
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 3:54 PMLogic says its a SJ, probably from the same shot as they run past David .....look at the size of them compared to the tunnel
gameover man
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 3:55 PM@NoxWord... clearly we dont have "much" footage. what "do" you see? something running by itself, that in no way, other than being a hologram, looks like the images of the SJ's. at least i dont see any similarities.
are you saying it "does" look like a SJ, or just asking me why i think it doesnt? i mentioned it in the other thread, but i cant capture it, but it looks reminiscent of the shot from Davids POV of crew members running in front of him.
im speculating. tell me where im wrong and ill listen.
gameover man
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 3:58 PM@Windood...clearly we wont figure out whats behind this movie till we see it, but we're going to speculate, thats just how it is man.
@JP...logic says everything but that to me. theres three of them in the other shot, there running rigid while this guy is leaning into it like a person would who's really digging deep, and they dont seem the same size to me.
Forever War
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 3:59 PMI see several Jockeys depicted running in that log
Biehn_Bandit
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 4:00 PMPretty sure it's one of the blue guys. Same build, bare hands, I can make out some of the costume details. People adopt different running alignment depending on their purpose, emotional state. Someone scrambling to get the hell out of some bad situation doesn't run like they would if they were just tyring to get some where on time.
The guys in the SJ suits look they are wearing baggier suits than the form fitting outfit of the other guy, but that could just be because of the low image resolution.
Not a human, unless someone on a previous crew was a bodybuilder.
gameover man
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 4:03 PMman, i'm all alone on this huh. take a look at the shot of Shaw (at least thats what I assume) standing in front of the Juggernaut as its standing upright either taking off or crashing (if its crashing she's being awfully calm).
the build of the suit is very similar...46 seconds in.
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gameover man
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 4:09 PMand i should have worded my hypothesis differently...it looks like one of the suits like the crew of the Prometheus is wearing. i see no similarities to the SJ in that hologram.
SJ's looking gangily with longer heads/helmets. this guys stockier with a bubble shaped head/helmet.
CantSpaceJockTheRock
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 4:14 PMCould it be a holo log from the Prometheus crew itself if they take multiple trips into the temple? We could be seeing 2 different play backs from 2 very different times.
gameover man
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 4:16 PM@CantSpace...that we could. im considering the more simple circumstance of a complicated situation. the point im trying to make is that it appears to me to be a human, or at least one of the suits similar to what the crew of the promo wears.
NoXWord
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 4:16 PMif the suit is the same/similar as the one from the Prometheus then:
1. Somebody got there before with an unknown Heliades ship that was secretly funded by Weyland alone
(it seems that there are no other ships, apart from the Heliades, capable of FTL speed)
2. It's a temporal loop (god forbid!)
3. David discovers the holo-camera and tries some shots for fun
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born.
Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.
David 1
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 4:18 PMGame:
For all that I can tell it seems like an SJ, friend. But I could be wrong... so wrong...
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]
Windood
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 4:18 PMpersonally i'm not on here for who's right and who's wrong (and i'm not suggesting anyone else is either). I joined to get a few extra bits of info and to figure out what was going on in the youtube trailers. But eventually found i actually enjoyed the banter with the misfits, vagabonds and ne'er do wells that comprise this forum.
I'll be happy as larry if everyones wrong and we see a totally different context to all that are speculated so far. Unlikely, but that would be a perfect win.
The only thing i wondered about in the running image was why bits are missing of him. Our hologram technology is better than that, so i don't see it as a hologram recording at all, i imagine superbeings would have better than grainy old crappy holograms. i always thought it was some kind of transportation thingy.
Who knows.
gameover man
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 4:19 PM@NoxWord...yeah, maybe David says "does the suit make my ass look big?" during this scene.
like i said in the other thread, if im having my company do stuff that i dont want people to know about, than im not going to include it on the website, am I?
chthon
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 4:21 PMIt's obvious! They're (dimensionally) out of phase. It's a higher dimensional, advanced species thing - you wouldn't understand.
The snorkle guys re-materialise in their orrery room and kick bald, blue ass!!!
David 1
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 4:22 PMWindood:
yeah, In the end it really doesn't matter who is right or not. And, like you, I enjoy the overall discussion. It's great to see how people think.
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]
Xenophobia
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 4:36 PM@Windood that's right man, people need to relax, wait and see and shut their pie holes! I like many others have waited almost 30 years to finally see a movie like this and I say to you my friends that it's just a little longer the sunrise it's just near the horizon.
Biehn_Bandit
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 4:37 PMShaw's suit doesn't have bare hands, and the gloves on the crews' suits don't look like they are easy to remove, and for what purpose? And their suits are fitted, but a little loose, unlike the sculpted look of this running man. And it looks like there is a cleft in the area of the spine, just like the engineer's have.
And the blue guys aren't gangley, they're built like NFL players, just like this guy running away. Look at the legs, back, and deltoids. Guy's been powerlifting or something.
TKfanboy421
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 4:39 PMstrongly believe that Peter Weyland has been on planet with another David synthetic via an earlier expedition, and brings prometheus expedition to planet to give more "hosts" to the engineers and have a way back to earth with his hard saught immortality. but eveything goes to sh**. ---and i believe that the Peter Weyland on earth---is a synthetic!
Myrddin365
MemberFacehuggerMay-08-2012 4:42 PMI think this is what recordings from the floating red scanner balls look like, hence the three dimensions and lack of color. While that could be a suited human, it is a member of the crew that arrived with the Prometheus. The three SJs could be what he's running from.
Safe? Of course he isn't safe, but he's good!
DJ Kotto
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 4:45 PMThey're using the weyland modular computing device as seen on the tech tab on weyland site. Read the description.
DJ Kotto
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 4:48 PMIt's under the electronics tab. Pardon me
Dave_b
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 5:09 PMI kinda agree that the second Holo is of a human and the image is from the records, so that indicates that a human (Weyland maybe) had been there before and caused problems. They obviously have a human head in the Temple placed in front of the urns, indicating that they are sacrificial (the wiring around the head to keep them in place, markings with ritualistic script). Are we the breeding grounds/species for their experiments? When Weyland escaped the 1rst time, they followed him and crashed on LV-426. Weyland is returning? Maybe some of this is true?
abordoli
MemberOvomorphMay-08-2012 5:14 PMNow, I do agree that humans might have been on LV-223 for the SJs certainly could have taken back willing visitors on their way back from trips to meddle with Earth cultures. I think somebody else mentioned this. I'm just posting to state that I agree with that possibility.