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Neurion
Veteran MemberMemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 7:36 PMThis is my humble take on the new trailer and some other thoughts:
1. The featured alien planet is NOT LV426/Acheron/the original planetoid.
a. No adjacent ringed planet.
b. Different atmosphere.
c. The landscape features do not match up.
d. The new ship does not seem to be crashing onto a mountainous perch as in the original.
2. The extra-terrestrial/Space Jockey vessel is not the same one as in the ’79 ALIEN film.
a. Its outside appearance is different.
b. Its inside appearance is different.
c. The “chair” and “chair chamber” is different.
d. The platform/disk/turntable has very different features.
This is some of what I think may be going on:
Prometheus and crew are led to an as yet unexplored (by mankind) alien world.
They follow the clues left on Earth ages ago.
They discover a seemingly abandon or long deserted Space Jockey outpost.
They poke around in the dark.
Bad genetic shite starts to happen with some of the crew.
One way or another, the SJ’s come on the scene or are alerted by the human presence and or tampering.
The SJ outpost turns out to much more massive (deeper underground) than originally assumed by the humans.
Near the end of the film, the SJ(s) attempt to disembark a vessel bound for Earth.
The captain crashes Prometheus ship into the SJ vessel, effectively bringing it crashing down. But not before Shaw and Vickers escape on an EEV, stranding them on the planet surface.
Perhaps just in time to see yet another SJ vessel launched from below the planet surface.
Perhaps it’s a more familiar vessel…carrying familiar egg shapes, bound for planet Earth…but never gets there…due to an infestation.
I think that it is also possible that the SJ/humanoid figure seen in the trailer could be a sort of android…or cybernetic organism…since much else seems to be bio-mechanical…why not him or them too. He or it, looks fairly “biomech”…to me anyway.
Anyway…just some thoughts.
~Neurion
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danrald
MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 7:39 PMWord. Also it looks like Prometheus rams the derelict right in it's crotch.. the 3 vaginal openings of the derelict would not be intact, if it was LV-426.
Mr.J
MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 7:41 PMI agree too. LV was a planetoid, small and lava based but close to the planet they are on, possibly one of the planets surrounding...
Neurion
Veteran MemberMemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 7:41 PMMuch of this may seem obvious or acedemic, but I'm still not buying the idea of this planet being LV-426...or that this ship ends up being the notorious "Derelict Ship."
~N
Tannerman
MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 7:43 PMYour thoughts are great. Every opinion just makes this movie more awesome. Ridley Scott already hinted on a sequel (part II) for the lamers...maybe the planet your missing will be in the sequel. In the newest full trailer I got out of the deal an Alien at 1:31. Is it alive or fossilize I don't know. Face Hugger at 2:04. Noomi Rapace is running away at 2:09. Is that Optimus Prime after her or is it just a red suit hanging not meant to be anything...suggestions please....
artyoh
MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 7:50 PMIn the trailer, we [i]are[/i] looking at it from some distance, but the SJ ship nonetheless looks to have come through being rammed and crashing to the ground........[i]completely[/i] unscathed. Anything that enormous which we're capable of making, would crumple into total destruction after either or those impacts.
darkgrafix
MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 7:52 PMThere is a ringed planet in the sky. At 1:04 in the international trailer as the Prometheus is landing you can see the familiar planet in the sky behind it. Much clearer than the regular trailer but I agree the planet does not look like it did in Alien. I doubt in only 50 years that the planet would have become so volcanic.
Mr.J
MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 7:53 PMI think were the Derelict is a Hanger bay....hence, more ships....maybe this was their mid point in trips, they would stop here and refuel or something...before continuing their missions, a half way mark
Galaxy Dave
MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 8:00 PMYes Neurion, very perceptive and makes lots of sense! So many clues to tell us otherwise- that this isn't the derelict ship we know of. Many similarities but not compared to the disimilarities. You just might be right!!
Myrddin365
MemberFacehuggerMar-20-2012 8:02 PMThe planet has too much atmosphere to be Archeron. I think the company mentioning that they found LV-426 in the timeline is supposed to imply that the prometheus planet isn't it, but they know where LV-426 is so they might run there.
Safe? Of course he isn't safe, but he's good!
JC
MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 8:02 PMIf you will look as Prometheus is coming in, there is a large planet nearby.
And those of you who assume that the derelict ship would be damaged by the crash, why is this? If these beings can terraform planets and create life from green goo, do you think that they would make the superstructure of their ships out of the fragile junk that we make ours from? In the previous trailer, you see the Space Jockey ship crashing, ass-first, into the planet, but it's not crumpling, rather it's rolling along, destroying the landscape.
Yes, the planet could become volcanic and violent in that short amount of time. The erosion you see in Alien could also happen in that amount of time with the extreme atmospheric conditions and wind erosion. As i've said before, the planet was being terraformed, and that transformation was incomplete. When whatever happens in Prometheus happens, that transformation had not reached a sustainable tipping point, it reverted to it's primordial state. As far as the vulcanism, look at moons in our own solar system. Io, Ganymede, Europa, all so close to a large planet nearby that they are squeezed and pulled until their insides are liquified.
Galaxy Dave
MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 8:02 PMTrue Danraid, but maybe the ship can repair itself- it just might have that ability!
Galaxy Dave
MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 8:19 PMGood points JC. The SJ in Alien is much larger than the smaller one in Prometheus. Details and proportion are WAY off. And the interiors of the Derelict are boney in Alien opposed to the slick interiors of the new. Inconsistencies galore! This means the new derelict is a different one from the one in Alien or Blue man and chair morphs into larger version like that of Alien, upon ship activation. Or the Blue man disembarks from suit, as seen in the trailer, only for the seat to be ocupied by a larger infected creature. All very good possibilities.
Myrddin365
MemberFacehuggerMar-20-2012 8:30 PMRemember they probably go into the temple first. The still of Noomi near the space jockey suits shows identical walls to the derelict in Alien.
Safe? Of course he isn't safe, but he's good!
JC
MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 8:35 PMOne thing you have to remember Dave (I say that with the droning voice of Hal9000 :)) is that thiry-three years separates these two movies. If you will look at the second Star Wars Movies, or Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, they are supposed to be in the same universe, but they look out of place compared to the first movies. One is because they were totally lame, but the advances in technology will bring about changes in the way things look. (I think that if a director is going to revisit a movie, they should be required to watch the original movie and re-read the novel and script).
Although they are trying to capture the same universe, the Prometheus to me looks nothing like it's from the same universe the Nostromo is from. Also, the Aliens themselves are terraformers. They slime-over and bone up any environment in which they build a nest (exm - the cocoon scene on board the Nostromo, Level 6 in the Atmosphere Processing station in Aliens), so if the one that burst the Space Jockey was the same one who created the eggs in the hold of the ship, that would explain the look of it when Kane discovered it.
Neurion
Veteran MemberMemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 8:47 PM@JC
I think you’ve got some sound ideas. I guess I’m just hoping, because of the apparent continuity errors…or changes, that it is a different ship and planet.
I’m fairly certain that Scott would not make such obvious design blunders, but there are precedents. So, I’ve been somewhat leery about this project from the beginning.
I just hope this film doesn’t tarnish the original in ANY WAY what so ever! The original ALIEN has been one of my most beloved pieces of art…throughout my life…as it has been for many of us.
~N
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