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Veteran MemberMemberOvomorphFeb-23-2012 9:17 PMthe two shots from the trailer with the land rovers almost looks like its from two locations ,planets?? .... or
bay doors opening up . heading out(dark) , land rovers heading back to the ship in the dust( sunny looking)
or its just,,, one during the day and the other one night
EGR101
MemberOvomorphFeb-23-2012 10:57 PMThere could very well be separate ship & temple. Ridley might want to revisit some aspects of the old scripts for 1979 ALIEN. The original script to ALIEN has always posited separate locations for spaceship wreck and indigenous temple. Due to budget constraint, they combine the two together in the final version.
[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8sv9gYsuLwc/TAopDt-grCI/AAAAAAAAAN8/RyusD3qmqgg/s1600/02derelict.jpg[/img]
Derelict ship as drawn by concept artist Chris Foss. Notice the weird angle fins and protrusions survived into Giger's final design.
[img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-M9s2NcMB_Vk/TlwLZdLQ42I/AAAAAAAACMk/nYKpGJ3NK84/s1600/06pyramid.jpg[/img]
Dan O'Bannon illustration concept for indigenous temple. Notice the W insignia. W for Weyland?
F--- it - lets go for it!
MemberOvomorphFeb-23-2012 11:08 PM2 different viewpoints, one from ship, one looking to ship, why would you see temple in both shots? (if there is anything there at all)
craigamore
MemberOvomorphFeb-23-2012 11:29 PM@F--- it - lets go for it!....is on the right track...it's impossible to judge distance in both shots, but at a basic estimation, the "temple"is twice the distance from the lens that the ship is, at least....
[img]http://i.imgur.com/LsdiL.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.aliensvspredatorspectrum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_023.jpg[/img]
CBT1979
MemberOvomorphFeb-24-2012 1:05 AMImo, its a bit too far fetched. It could
Just be an interesting shape of rocks.
There could be a temple in this movie,
but i dont think that the teaser really
shows such.
Because we are so excited about this
Movie, some of us are starting
Seeing things by overanalyzing
Images from.the teaser trailer.
BellaisanAlien
MemberOvomorphFeb-24-2012 4:23 AMI'm sure in the shot of the derelict crashing you see part of the temple. It doesn't move in the same way as the derelict crashing (if at all, it appears the camera is moving and the temple is static) but the shot of the derelict crashing does not give much reference to where the human ship was parked...
BellaisanAlien
MemberOvomorphFeb-24-2012 4:44 AM[img]http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s470/Ginja666/vlcsnap-2012-02-17-20h14m02s25.png[/img]
I can create a GIF but this can be seen in the International Trailer (there seems to be a few more seconds of the crash in this trailer). The temple behind the alleged totem appears IMO to move independently to the derelict, & IMO the movement is due to the camera panning with the action rather than the temple actually moving, although I did appreciate the pictures that @Biomechanic produced :)
wheresbasky?
MemberOvomorphFeb-24-2012 10:51 AM@invaderzim42
I had the same thought too!!! almost looks like the Tyrell building in Bladerunner,but backlit! could just be mountain range in the background though
Gavin
MemberTrilobiteFeb-24-2012 12:45 PMThe temple does exist, I noticed it months ago when the trailer was released, [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/436]HERES[/url] the thread I started about the discovery!
bunnypmf
MemberOvomorphFeb-24-2012 12:36 PM@Bellaisanalien, that's not the 'temple' it's the other prong of the Derelict class ship.
BellaisanAlien
MemberOvomorphFeb-24-2012 12:55 PM@bunnypmf, as Snorklebottom has said this has been discussed at length, it's just I am in the camp that think it is part of the temple. Also if you read my post I have put 'IMO' this is [u]not[/u] part of the crashing derelict. I am not stating that it is or isn't anything just what I believe, I can not see how anybody can without seeing the full sequence of events. I did think it was part of the derelict until I ran VCL player 'still' by 'still' to find a 'so-called totem' after viewing these stills the movement of the derelict crashing and the structure behind it do not appear to move together; thus why IMO the structure is part of the temple and [u]not[/u] part of derelict.
jujutsuka
MemberOvomorphFeb-24-2012 1:18 PM@Engr101,
In addition to the "W" you point out, O'Bannon's illustration of the temple looks like a stylized egg to me. The four corners below the "W" are the egg "flaps", and the pyramid's point is emerging from the egg.
Fall down seven times, get up eight.
Spartacus
MemberOvomorphFeb-24-2012 1:25 PMAs Long as we see plenty of Triangles in this thing I will be completely satisfied, in fact the triangle I look forward to seeing the most, belongs... I believe... to Charleze Theron...lol.
The High Priest
MemberOvomorphFeb-24-2012 1:50 PMI'm with BunnyPMF - Its the Derelict.
oh sorry IMO.
Not_my_intention
MemberOvomorphFeb-24-2012 2:15 PM@Snorkelbottom i know you talked about this before, this is somewhat a response to that post, but there has been other talk too so i did not say it was a response. and my point is that the "temple" if it was a temple looks very close to be that big in the shot of the doors opening up, and to be that close, would be exactly where the trucks are when driving back to the ship, unless they are mountains or the temple is just THAT big, but i don't think so, if this is LV-426, even after whatever terrible thing happened to change the landscape, it would still be partly there in alien, the derelict survived, and if you say that the derelict is on top of it and the eggs are in it (a theory that i disagree with btw) then that would mean that it would need to be smallish, and close to the Prometheus to look that big in that shot, and would be close and in shot in that other shot, and yeah i am tong tying my hand right now trying to type this lol does anybody get what i am saying? and remember, this is all under the assumption that the shot of the doors opening, the shot of the trucks coming back, and the shot of the crash are all in the same place, all 3 of these events could be in 3 different places, as i said before so don't take me to seriously, just enough to get me :D
Gavin
MemberTrilobiteFeb-24-2012 3:12 PM@ Invaderzim42 - there are various filmmaking techniques than can be used to make background objects appear closer or further away than they actually. These techniques can be done in camera and all rely on the position/movement of the camera, the zoom and the focus. Although any of these could have been used for the shot in question when the garage doors open there is one simple thing that has to be taken into account, the size of the temple. Because this the only shot in which we can see it externally, and because we have no means by which to accurately compare it we simply do not know how big this temple is, for all we know this structure could be frickin huge. Either that or Ridley has utilised one of the techniques referred to at the start of my post.
Remember to keep an open mind, and not to get bogged down in certainties of the uncertain.
Rick
MemberXenomorphFeb-24-2012 5:02 PMHey IZ,
I think the story has multiple planet visits. I don't think the Engineers are gonna just leave a single here's waldo location on a planet I am sure they will visit a few places during the search for our creators. So LV-426 could be in that chain somewhere but not the actual final destination.
Snorkler,
I think we have more than one destination. Its kind of like treasure hunting follow the clues. So the Temple is not going to be in the FoV of the ship "dock" with the vehicles hauling tail back. That is a different scene all together.
Regards,
Rick
craigamore
MemberOvomorphFeb-24-2012 10:06 PMI do think @Bellaisanalien is right about her pic.....
[img]http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s470/Ginja666/vlcsnap-2012-02-17-20h14m02s25.png[/img]
On the left side of the frame, there are distinct objects.....1) the "totem", circled in red...2) the crashing derelict, which is very dark due to shadows...3) some other structure in the far background which is lit by the planet's sun and NOT MOVING...........the difference is very distinct. The crashing ship moves and that lit object does not, thus, we're seeing two distinct structures.....
Who knows what the lit structure in the background is, but it's there, it's separate and it does not move.
craigamore
MemberOvomorphFeb-24-2012 10:16 PMAnd if you look at these two successive shots, you can see what the two of us refer to....
[img]http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s470/Ginja666/vlcsnap-2012-02-17-20h14m02s25.png[/img]
[img]http://www.aliensvspredatorspectrum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/047.jpg[/img]
There's definitely some other structure behind the crashing derelict.....
Not_my_intention
MemberOvomorphFeb-24-2012 10:20 PMi used to think it was two structures but if you look at the one in the background it looks just like the one wing of the derelict with the two brings (now stuck in the ground) so i think that that end stuck in the ground and the other end is now falling down towards the camera, so its like tilting, so the back piece IS moving, but the way it is shot it looks like it isn't. get me? and also it looks like there are 2 derelict crashes in the movie. this one, and the other one where it lands the other way and falls over.
Not_my_intention
MemberOvomorphFeb-24-2012 10:26 PMyes, i am 100% right all the way, 100%, i was not so sure before but i looked back at the trailer and that thing IS movies, it is the other wing, go watch quick :D
Gavin
MemberTrilobiteFeb-25-2012 8:26 AMYes IZ42 you are right it is the other prong of the crashing derelict, most of the long-term members of these forums sussed that out when the trailer was released.
It seems quite a few of the noobs to these forums have some crazy outlandish ideas that have no basis in logic or reason (no offence noobs), and usually see things that are not there or come up with theories with no concrete evidence to support them. This is why a lot of threads seem to be split, long-termers posting alongside long-termers and noobs posting alongside noobs. Of course this brings its own problems because 99% of the time the noobs discuss things us long-termers discussed/discovered months beforehand.
Not_my_intention
MemberOvomorphFeb-25-2012 2:13 PM@Snorkelbottom hey people dont have the time to come on every day like others, and dont expect them to go back 10 pages of topics looking to see if something they discovered is old news.
CantSpaceJockTheRock
MemberOvomorphFeb-26-2012 4:04 AMI think they're just rocks....rocks on Mars ,maybe a temple with a star map