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I’d rather see Kong fight brand new monsters instead of Toho monsters in another sequel of his.

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Gojirafan2013

MemberBaragonSep-20-2021 2:16 PM

With the introduction of the Hollow Earth in GVK, a lot of fans have expressed their desire to see more Toho monsters brought into that world.

But personally, I’d like to see Kong and Monarch encounter original monsters in a future MonsterVerse film instead of more Toho monsters. I’m all for seeing Gigan, Biollante, or Destroyah in future Godzilla films, but why limit yourself creatively by including Toho monsters in a Kong sequel when you could just create new ones instead? There are probably hundreds of new monsters waiting to be discovered in the Hollow Earth, and I’d like to see the potential of what’s down there be explored in the future.

I understand there’s a lot of demand to see monsters like Gorosaurus, King Caesar, Varan, Baragon, Ebirah, Kamacuras, and Kumonga show up in the Hollow Earth in cameo roles. But with the exception of King Caesar and Baragon, those monsters just wouldn’t be worth buying since they’re just large versions of real world animals. If they’re just going to be used as fodder for Kong, then what’s the point in spending millions of dollars to purchase them when you can use all that money to create your own monsters and have them fill the same role? It’s very easy to create giant spiders, crustaceans, insects, and dinosaurs in the United States, as it’s been done before in previous monster movies such as Earth vs the Giant Spider (1958), Attack of the Crab Monsters (1957), Them (1954), the original King Kong (1933), and The Lost World (1925).

King Caesar and Baragon make some sense to purchase since they are more original than the others that are commonly suggested by fans. But even then, I don’t think they are necessary for a Kong sequel.

Kong: Skull Island showed us that Legendary is capable of creating brand new creatures that have interesting designs and neat characteristics like the Skullcrawlers (whose designs *were* inspired by the two-legged lizard from the original King Kong film, but have their own unique flare), Skyer Buffalo, Mother Longlegs, Leafwings, and Spore Mantis. The Birth of Kong graphic novel series has also introduced a lot of cool monsters like the Sirenjaw, Death Jackals, and Psychovultures.

It would be very cool if we got to see brand new megafauna in the Hollow Earth, which is essentially a much larger and more diverse version of Skull Island. Plus, Skull Island is even confirmed to be a landmass from the Hollow Earth that ended up on the Earth’s surface. This implies that the creatures that lived on that island came from the Hollow Earth. So if Skull Island is a part of the Hollow Earth, why not introduce brand new creatures like Legendary did in Kong’s first outing in the MonsterVerse?

Think of all the different types of creatures Legendary can create in a Kong: Hollow Earth film. Kong could fight an anglerfish-like Titan in an aquatic region, a feathered bird-like Titan in a mountainous region, giant leeches in a swamp, and a Titan made entirely out of crystals in a giant cave (sounds crazy, I know)!

The filmmakers could even introduce some unused monsters like the Shinomurah and that amphibious sawtoothed monster from The Art and Making of Kong: Skull Island. It was supposed to be the main antagonist before being replaced by the Skull Devil in the final film.

My point is, Legendary doesn’t need to spend money on lesser Toho monsters since they have plenty of assets to use. 

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YeOldFossil

MemberBaragonSep-21-2021 11:35 AM

Gorosaurus is the only Toho monster that should be in the new Kong movie. He is originally Kong’s monster anyway. I do agree that Kong deserves his own rouges gallery rather than piggy backing on Godzilla’s. I want him to fight some mammalian kaiju too!

Kattozilla

MemberAnguirusSep-21-2021 1:00 PM

 kong's fought so many lizards it's even a trope on TV Tropes!

i've officially left. thanks for the memories!

sonictiger

MemberGiganSep-21-2021 3:00 PM

How about Hedorah or Gigan? That would be cool....

“Calling yourself a hero make you a self-mythologizing narcissistic autocrat!”

Djdndnejwnwn

MemberGiganSep-21-2021 3:33 PM

sonictiger

those are monsters Godzilla should fight in my opinion

expecting the worst, sets you up for thr worst

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaSep-22-2021 5:45 AM

If the Monsterverse is to continue, it can not rely on Toho IP. Including Toho's most popular monsters didn't sell King of the Monsters on the general audience in any territory, even Japan. So spending money on licensing fees for even less popular characters seems like a bad idea. It needs to find a different way to go about things if it has any intention of surviving.

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sonictiger

MemberGiganSep-22-2021 9:51 AM

True.

“Calling yourself a hero make you a self-mythologizing narcissistic autocrat!”

sonictiger

MemberGiganSep-22-2021 9:55 AM

Anyhow, I think Kong needs to fight revamped versions of his 2005 monsters and some original content similar to the Skullcrawlers and Warbats and Hell Hawks.  I think a mix of both is in order.

“Calling yourself a hero make you a self-mythologizing narcissistic autocrat!”

SasquaDash

MemberAnguirusSep-22-2021 6:29 PM

Hear me out,

What if the next MonsterVerse film focused on Kong finding more of his kind, the major conflict being his attempts to fit in with them? Think about it, Kong's been alone for most of his life, he's never interacted with another member of his species, so how would he react to being among other Kongs? How would they react to him? Living in isolation on Skull Island may have resulted in Kong behaving differently than the rest of his kind. Maybe the Hollow Earth Kongs view him as an outcast. Kong wants to be part of the group, but for the most part the others don't want him around. This could lead to a pretty emotional story, Kong's finally found others of his kind, yet he's still alone. Kong's journey could be him trying to gain the trust and respect of the group. Another conflict could arise from the social structure of the group, Kong's used to being the ruler of Skull Island and "bowing to no one", so what happens when he has to follow the command of others? Maybe the troop is being lead by a older, aggressive, battle worn silverback who views Kong as a threat to his leadership. This could eventually lead to Kong challenging the silverback which could lead to a massive battle for dominance. Maybe at the end of the film Kong defeats the silverback or ends up defeating another titan that threatens the troop, allowing become the leader of the troop and finally earning the title of "King Kong". Kong could also find a mate within the troop, finally giving him the happy ending that he rightfully deserves.

"Neither beast nor man. Something monstrous."

Kattozilla

MemberAnguirusSep-22-2021 6:33 PM

high school in a nutshell

i've officially left. thanks for the memories!

Gojirafan2013

MemberBaragonSep-23-2021 3:45 AM

@SasquaDash: I really like that idea, and it honestly wouldn’t surprise me if that’s the direction the next MonsterVerse film will go in. It’s much more realistic than Kong fighting Gororsaurus or King Caesar. 

Plus, the rumor that the next MonsterVerse film will be titled “Son of Kong” gives some credence to this theory. However, we should keep in mind that the Hollywood Reporter article that originally reported on this rumor stated that “Son of Kong” was only one of many titles that were being tossed around. So it’s entirely possible that the next film won’t be Kong centric at all, or maybe it’ll revolve around Kong discovering more members of his species in the Hollow Earth, but he won’t have a son. 

Gojirafan2013

MemberBaragonSep-23-2021 3:52 AM

I meant to say Shimidah instead of Shinomurah. My apologies.

SasquaDash

MemberAnguirusSep-23-2021 5:04 AM

Jack Capellini

I wouldn't be surprised if they go in that direction either, they did tease the idea of Kong finding others of his kind in the Hollow Earth during GvK. I think the idea of Kong interacting with other Kongs is a really interesting idea. The only time that's been done was in King Kong Lives, and while that movie is really bad, the idea of Kong finding a mate is a cool concept and, if done right, it could make for an amazing movie.

"Neither beast nor man. Something monstrous."
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