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Crossing the Plaza - Deleted Scene

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David 7

MemberFacehuggerAug-01-2017 5:31 PM

After exploring the deleted scenes in Alien Covenant, the most intriguing one was the team us following David to the City Center, as they cross the Plaza, the head security guy and the team come across the large circular opening, they stop and the head security guy throws a flare down into the pit, of which we see three juggernauts parked inside, which is revealed is a docking station for the ships. 

Hence, the question, why didn't David take one or was he waiting specifically for a passing ship to get human hosts for his experiments, knowing that was the key ingredient for his perfect specimen. Its a beautiful shot and one that also adds mystery and more darkness to David, he was waiting...

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Kethol

MemberChestbursterAug-01-2017 5:49 PM

It has already been answered here a few times, but in the book it is explained that the Engineers shut down all ships after the bombing to contain the virus. I assume there is a deleted scene in the movie where David explained that as well.

dk

MemberTrilobiteAug-01-2017 5:58 PM

Kethol I saw that too but cannot remember where. I think Walter was trying to fix a ship and figured if David couldn't figure it out in ten years, he was unlikely to either. I think it may have been fan fiction from another member?

David 7

MemberFacehuggerAug-01-2017 6:05 PM

This what happens when I take a sabbatical from the website...I miss all the forum topics. 

dk

MemberTrilobiteAug-01-2017 6:08 PM

David 7 No worries. You announced you were gone for awhile. I noticed that missing a couple weeks seems like a couple real world months around here.

chli

MemberChestbursterAug-02-2017 12:00 AM

@David 7

I think you have a point about David in that it "adds mystery and more darkness to David, he was waiting...". In the novel we only have David's words (and we know that we can't trust him) that the engineers disabled the ships in order to stop the virus from spreading to other worlds. He could have done it himself (perhaps to prevent Shaw from escaping)? He counted on that there would eventually come a ship that would pick up the distress message made by Shaw. He needed victims to complete his creation . . .

sherris

MemberChestbursterAug-02-2017 4:05 AM

Chli - 

Indeed we do only have Davids word that the Engineer ships were disabled to stop the virus spreading to other world. The novel gives us that much.

I am surprised that no one is considering that David is not being honest ;) and this lets us envision another scenario where David HAS been off world. Perhaps bombing other Engineered planets ? Maybe sounds a stretch but if he is lying about the ships then there is every chance he has developed other things that will pan out in A:A

I am certain David caused the event which led the crew to Planet 4.

It is all part of the plan. 

We must remember Prometheus - Engineers ships working after 2000 years. Holo appearing after 2000 years. The Jugganaut works too lol

In A:C there is some sort of power working for the lights. There is every chance the Jugganauts work too

Take This.... This is the blood of our lord

David 7

MemberFacehuggerAug-02-2017 5:23 AM

The Advent Video that is a transmission from David to Weyland also gives more in-sight to his motives. The fact that he shared his research with Weyland-Yutani is very interesting, but perhaps a threat to them to keep clear from him. He goes on to say that his creation will eventually rule the galaxy. 

chli

MemberChestbursterAug-02-2017 8:48 AM

@ Sherris

Yes, since all the information we get, in the novelization as well as in the movie, is through David, we can't be sure what he's been up to since they left LV-223. As you point out, he might have travelled elsewhere for some sinister reason. What do you mean by David causing the event that leads The Covenant there? He attacks Shaw and she tries to escape, crashing the juggernaut?

@ David 7

Is this "Advent video" going to be in the blu-ray/DVD-release?

sherris

MemberChestbursterAug-02-2017 9:27 AM

Chli - 

The event that leads the Covenant to Planet 4

David knew about the colony ship and devised a plan to get them to stop on Planet 4 by sending a neutrino burst or shock wave or something that is processed by MU TH UR as a random event. Unless MU TH UR is in on it and reported that it was something it wasnt to the crew.

Basically he set the burst knowing the crew would pick up the message and head to Planet 4.

IMO it is just a massive intricate plan that David is acting out. He knows how it goes....

EDIT: if anyone has a link to "Advent" that would be awesome

Take This.... This is the blood of our lord

David 7

MemberFacehuggerAug-02-2017 9:42 AM

The Advent will be on the DVD release. It would be good to assume that David set the whole thing up, though I think he just wanted a ship to come by. Having the Covenant come made it even better, knowing that there are over 2,000 colonist, his lambs that he could use to advance his perfect organism. IN the Advent video, he makes clear his intentions to create the 'perfect organism" to the company, so the company now knows his intentions and perhaps this will play into LV-426 and lead into Alien and Ripley being the next ship to be used to acquire David's creation. 

chli

MemberChestbursterAug-02-2017 10:03 AM

@ sherris and David 7

Considering the Advent video, WY company knew about David's creation and could, therefore, have sent The Covenant in that direction (and a fake neutrino accident), saying it was on the way to Origae 6? Might Branson even have known about it and was killed?

There is a problem with communication and time (information can only travel at the speed of light. But, this is the future and sci-fi, so perhaps the engineers had found a way?).

Kethol

MemberChestbursterAug-02-2017 2:26 PM

Communication is not instantaneous, but both ship travel and communication is faster than light in the Alien universe.

AdamPD

MemberFacehuggerAug-02-2017 4:46 PM

I wonder why they delete scenes like this? Drives me nuts

It's 60 seconds that adds so much to the story.

It's just like the engineer speaks scene, only another, what? 30-45 seconds and it added (I think) a lot to the Prometheus story.

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