Alien Movie Universe

David in Walters body

8527 Views7 Replies
Forum Topic

kalhava

MemberOvomorphJul-14-2017 3:51 PM

Does anyone know if the book tells  how David got in Walters body? Did he swap chips will there still be a bit of Walter still inside so David has some inner conflict going on try to suppress parts of Walter? 

1 and 2 had a race 1 1 1 and 2 11 2. gigity
7 Replies

I Moon Girl

MemberChestbursterJul-14-2017 4:53 PM

Actually, the book very vaguely describes that it is not Walter, but David.  This only becomes obvious right at the end of the novel.  The novel doesn't spell it out that David switched places with Walter like in the movie.  We can only think it's David after the following paragraph in the book...

p.344 (2nd to last page of the whole novel):

David says to Mother, "Use security hailing code David 31822-B.  And in the meantime, I'd like some music.  Richard Wagner.  Das Rheingold, act two.  The entry of the gods into Valhalla."

p.345 (the last words of the novel):

Turning, he walked out into the holding room, gazing contently down at row upon row of sleeping colonists.  His colonists.  His subjects.  He smiled.  His future.

Walter wasn't listening to music on the Covenant at the beginning of the book and, from the movie and novel, we know that David likes music.  Plus, the music selection just seems like David's style.  The last sentences in the book almost spell it out that it is David and not Walter.  Using the David code could almost spell out that it is actually David too.  Thankfully I watched the movie first, so it was easy to think through the ending of the novel and actually know that it is David and not Walter.

So, there is no inclination that David switched chips or bodies with Walter in the novel.  That theory can only be deducted from the movie and not the novel.

Svanya

AdminPraetorianJul-14-2017 6:04 PM

David didn't swap programming with Walter. It's David in his own body we see on the ship at the end, he's wearing Walter's clothes pretending to be Walter. David cutting his hair early on foreshadows this. Walter is still on the planet, presumably shut down or disabled in some way. If it was a simple programming thing then David and Walter would not have to look alike for it to work. 

Ridley Scott explains the switch in this Podcast: Alien: Covenant Spoiler Special With Sir Ridley Scott

BigDave

MemberDeaconJul-15-2017 8:15 AM

I think that it could be David in Walters Body as he would in essence still be David just a different body,  but we have to ask how would he had done this?

The other option would be David swapping clothes etc, and this is what i was lead to more, and RS had as Svanya mentioned... he did confirm that David had stole his clothing and cut himself and his hand off to appear like Walter.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

kalhava

MemberOvomorphJul-15-2017 9:16 AM

Thanks for replying and the info guys,that fight was so fast and finished is a strange way still a cracking movie don't care what people/critics say about it. bring on the next one 

1 and 2 had a race 1 1 1 and 2 11 2. gigity

sosse

MemberOvomorphJul-15-2017 10:22 AM

David wouldn't mind that - silly joke

FP

MemberOvomorphJul-18-2017 3:43 PM

 W alter (Weyland Alterego) said at  David "I cant leave you here.." so Walter is hosting David.. dont play with bullshit as David can cut his hand (was eated by a neomorph non cutted goddmn)and change hair and dress in 60 seconds 

Dreams will be the key of this fight in to a twin cybernetic 's personality

cigarette_paper

MemberOvomorphOct-19-2017 1:23 PM

I really hope David is within Walter's body as the opposite creates very unnecessary questions like: 

why did david make a scar on his face when nobody had seen the scar on walter?

and

how did he have enough time to scar himself, remove his hand, and change clothes?

I really hope RS is just trying to misinform the audience, as this idea really complements the "evolution of AI" theme they are moving towards and its something i find very interesting. Bonus points to RS if he decides that Walter voluntarily allowed David to body swap/integrate into his programming. 

(i say that with a tinge of apprehension as i really loved Walter and, at first, i had wanted Walter to show up at Origae-6 with the engineers and save the day. But if Walter was convinced to join David, it would be a much more interesting twist and also further the "AI taking over" thing.)

Add A Reply
Sign In Required
Sign in using your Scified Account to access this feature!
Email
Password
Latest Images
Alien & Predator Alien & Predator Fandom
Alien Movie Universe Forums
Alien: Romulus
Alien: Romulus Discuss the new Fede Alvarez Alien movie here
Alien
Alien Discuss all things Alien here
Alien: Covenant
Alien: Covenant Discuss the Prometheus Sequel, Alien: Covenant
Alien FX TV Series
Alien FX TV Series Discuss the Alien FX TV series here!
Alien Games
Alien Games Discuss Alien games here
Alien 5 Movie
Alien 5 Movie Discuss Neill Blomkamps’s vision for Alien 5 here
Alien Movies
Alien Movies Discuss the Classic Alien Films
Prometheus
Prometheus Everything About Prometheus
Prometheus Fan Art
Prometheus Fan Art Artwork & Fiction From the Fans
Hot Forum Topics
New Forum Topics
Highest Forum Ranks Unlocked
ninXeno426
ninXeno426 » Praetorian
62% To Next Rank
Thoughts_Dreams
Thoughts_Dreams » Neomorph
85% To Next Rank
MonsterZero
MonsterZero » Xenomorph
92% To Next Rank
Neomorph
Neomorph » Chestburster
80% To Next Rank
Kongzilla
Kongzilla » Chestburster
67% To Next Rank
Latest Alien Fandom Activity

Alien: Covenant is a sequel to 2012's Prometheus as well as a prequel to 1979's ALIEN. Alien fans looking to know more about Alien: Covenant should check back often. Alien-Covenant.com is an information resource for film enthusiasts looking to learn more about the upcoming blockbuster Alien: Covenant. Providing the latest official and accurate information on Alien: Covenant, this website contains links to every set video, viral video, commercial, trailer, poster, movie still and screenshot available. This site is an extension of the Alien & Predator Fandom on Scified - a central hub for fans of Alien and Prometheus looking to stay up-to-date on the latest news. Images used are property of their respective owners. Alien: Covenant, Prometheus and its associated names, logos and images are property of 20th Century Fox and are in no way owned by Scified and its related entities. This is a fan-created website for the purpose of informing and exciting fans for Alien: Covenant's release. If you have any questions about this site, its content or the Scified Network in general, feel free to contact Scified directly.

© 2024 Scified.com
Sign in
Use your Scified Account to sign in


Log in to view your personalized notifications across Scified!

Transport To Communities
Alien Hosted Community
Cloverfield Hosted Community
Godzilla Hosted Community
Jurassic World Hosted Community
Predator Hosted Community
Aliens vs. Predator Hosted Community
Latest Activity
Forums
Search Scified
Trending Articles
Blogs & Editorials