dk
MemberTrilobiteJun-06-2017 9:18 PMIt might not meet my or your personal scrutiny, but I think Sci Fi will always be around. I start to get the impression that some of us try to define what Sci Fi is. Are we afraid that another generation is doing its own take on it? IDGAF about movie sales and such. I think some of us, including myself, need to be careful with saying what Sci Fi is. If older folks like me dismiss the new, it doesn’t help newer or younger people who want to make it their own. I am from the BW Twilight Light Zone/Outer Limits era but love where the genre has gone. My older gemeration never told me what Sci Fi was or is. I found out for myself. If you like deep cerebral sci fi, cool! If you define sci fi as super hero stuff- I can see that too. I guess we would have to go way back to people like Asimov and Serling to define what Sci Fi actually is.
To me, Sci Fi was Twilight Zone and Star Trek TOS- that was my crystallization. It will be different for younger people and that is OK.
joylitt
MemberNeomorphJun-06-2017 9:59 PMdk You can even get good sci-fi in some Young Adult movies and novels. And millennials are not as dumb as the studios seem to believe. As an example, you can check out this Alien Covenant review from a millennial.
Barf The Mog
MemberFacehuggerJun-07-2017 12:05 AM@joylitt - Ha! I watched two seconds of that and began cracking up.
Classic Sci-Fi is told through literary works, however, once cover art surfaced, that's when it become a permanent fixture in popular culture, but now it's just considered kitsch. And it probably has to do with modern technology making sci-fi less fascinating (i.e., iPads, smartphones, autonomous cars). Millenials probably see Sci-Fi as being a dated genre, and same genre films are probably less appealing to them unless Chris Pratt is the star, who also can tame a Velociraptor.
Ex Machina seems to be pretty millennial-like, I mean even that girl who kept giving Tennessee a hard time, in Covenant, felt like a bratty millennial jerk.
I think of Wayne Barlowe and Frazetta for traditional artistic accouterments.
Did any of you see Gentlemen Broncos?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9ZRWigdMrE
Neomorph
MemberChestbursterJun-07-2017 5:31 AMAs long as we have our imagination, Sci-fi will exist.
My favorite Sci-fi niche is space adventure/opera, but I also like post apocalyptic films and cyberpunk.
suwhited
MemberFacehuggerJun-07-2017 5:38 AMIOT Mankind to progress, it has to dream. Dream about the future, dream about possibilities, dream about what-ifs...?
Sci-Fi is intrinsically linked to who we are and what we will become. Without it, we have no hope for what will or could be.
Sci-Fi (like Bebe's kids...) will never die, it will just multiply...
Capt Torgo
MemberFacehuggerJun-07-2017 6:12 AMGood choices neomorhp! I don't care as long as it's unique with a decent story arc. Saw wonder woman and wept like a babe. I guess that's fantasy but gosh dang that's a fun story and is just cool for young girls to have that omega hero. The bigger numbers we can get of millennials all joining under the SciFi umbrella is great for the genre. I'll always say a talented director can pull fans of all types to a clever film like say. Arrival or Aliens
suwhited
MemberFacehuggerJun-07-2017 6:31 AM@Capt Torgo. I really liked Wonder Woman.Great movie especially considering I had low expectations going in.
My daughter is still fired up after watching that movie. I know it is a "super-hero" movie, but it's still Sci-Fi/Fantasy as you stated. Makes me think there is still a lot of great Sci-Fi films to me made...
Tiwaz
MemberChestbursterJun-07-2017 7:17 AMBeing 44 myself I see where dk is coming from and agree with him. I grew up with Battlestar Galactica, Star Trek, Star Wars, Captain Future, 2001 etc.
Scifi dead? What!? What bout flicks like Passengers, Moon or Her? Sure they weren't "Blockbusters". But still.
Another question is what you consider Scifi. Only "Macbeth in space"? Wich leads me to the actual problem IMO. Nowadays you either have a pseudo intellectual mess like A:C or a postapocalyptical Fast and Furious a'la Mad Max. There's hardly something in between. At least on the silver screen.
Scifi isn't dead, it's "main platform" shifted towards other media like TV or consoles.
Liking to play games myself know things like Dead Space, Mass Effect, Horizon Zero Dawn etc.. Some may say "They're not movies!", true but they're Scifi. And, if you care to look, some games even tell an interesting story.
Eine Theorie die nicht auf Etwas solidem basiert ist für gewöhnlich nur Geschwätz.
Batchpool
MemberFacehuggerJun-07-2017 11:13 AMIf you want to know what is popular in Sci-fi, I would say look at the toys you see kids actually playing with. I don’t mean the pristine, factory sealed action figure, I mean the toy that is constantly out of its box and getting hammered by everyone, including the family cat. When you go to a comic con, which stars have the biggest queues for them and charge the most?
I think that Sci-fi is constantly evolving, but long gone are the days when people would sit round a box in the corner of the room and go into school the next day and discuss what had been seen. These days, people have their own screen that can go with them anywhere, but that would appear to have shifted the collective focus, because now there is’nt one. Marketing is more specifically aimed at personal profiles and this is what I think causes alienation from gaining bigger audiences.
