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Fan Theory - David becomes Ash or Mu/th/ur 6000

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Bubahotep76

MemberOvomorphMay-22-2017 4:25 AM

I've been thinking and I have a wild theory that ties prometheus and covenant to alien and aliens in a really clever way.

SPOILER WARNING about covenant in my explanation

David will somehow transfer his consciousness to Ash or directly to MUTHUR 6000 from the original Alien.

In covenant, his voice is screwed after Walter bashes his wind pipe - also the scars on his face don't match with how David / Walter looks back on-board the covenant - this is a much better explanation to why David can access the Muthur on the covenant and why he wouldn't have to change his clothes and cut off his hand before escaping the planet with Daniels and the others.

Walter even states they made improvements meaning his body is stronger and he can self heal to some extent. 

I have a theory that may take a few liberties but will explain how we still end up with a crashed derelict on LV-426 and why the hell Ash and Mu/th/ur are so intent on getting the alien. (as if they knew it was there all along.)

Basically, the engineers will discover what David has done, find the location of Origae-6 from the damaged lander at the edge of the lake from covenant and go after David for some type of revenge. When they find him, David will have a huge army of Xenomorphs, so their will be some sort of epic battle in the next film.

Following the battle, David will somehow create or through the use of a queen, fill a cargo hold of a procured engineer ship with eggs. He may plan to return to LV-223 to obtain more ‘black goo’ as he knows it is stockpiled there,and then head to Earth to carry out the original engineer plan to kill all mankind, so we may get the answers Shaw was after about why the engineers wanted to wipe us out.

 

But at some point before he gets to leave origae-6, a surviving engineer (who has had a face hugger impregnate him) will steal back the ship and fly off - leaving David screaming NOOOOO! as all his children have been taken from him.

The engineer will have a chestburster explode from his chest and somehow he’ll still be able to shoot it before he dies which causes the acid hole that Kane, Dallas and Lambert find that leads down to the cargo hold which is full of eggs (with the handy ‘time release’ blue light safety feature)

David, who is then stranded on Origae-6 will then be picked up by humans and somehow I believe he will transfer his consciousness to another android (as he did with Walter) which will be Ash or even to Muthur 6000 - (the Weyland-Yutani all seeing Artificial intelligence.)

The reason I think this, is because it is the only rational explanation why Ash and Muthur 6000 are so intent on getting to the derelict and bringing a specimen back to earth. 

In Covenant David talks about making the perfect organism - exactly like ash says in the original alien before he is finally burnt to a crisp.

The reason the alien looks different in covenant than the traditional alien has an explanation - the deacon, the trilobite and the hammerpead from prometheus had something in common with the neomorphs in Covenant, that being soft organic skin. the neomorph and the deacon resembled the mural from prometheus so this is the default black goo DNA or it could be the original creature the DNA was taken from?

What David is slowly doing is splicing DNA to give the alien's the recognisable hard exoskeleton that enables them to exist in outer space, underwater and even survive molten lead. this could eventually be from his own android components (the missing ingredient so to speak)

The protomorph at the end of the film is closer to what we know and love but David looks visibly gutted when Daniels and Tennessee kill it so easily which might be why he tries to improve it and make it more stealthy (as it appears in other films) This helps explain why the protomorph still appears fleshy-looking compared to the alien we all know and love.

He’s got 7 years and 2000 bodies to play with to perfect his ‘creation’ although I think it’s a bigger deal that he has over 1000 human embryos as well.

With only two face huggers - I’m hoping they are queens as it will help tie the films together.

Scott has stated in the past that he wasn’t a huge fan of the queen but because we saw insect stages of creatures in David’s workshop, I think he will acknowledge the insectoid, hive qualities from Cameron’s ‘Aliens’ and introduce the queen or reproductive aspect of the alien somehow

The Queen will be a result of self-propagation as a result of the alien evolving to survive. To quote another famous franchise - ‘life finds a way’

Even though the off-screen death of Shaw was really lazy script-writing, I’m hoping we get some extra footage inserted back into an extended cut of the film.

I believe Daniels will die in the next film as these films are all about David - his downfall if he becomes Ash or Muthur, will be underestimating the tenacity of a certain other female protagonist who goes by the name of Ripley - she will undo all of David’s work in Alien, Aliens and finally sacrifice herself to kill the last queen in Alien 3.

(I’m not counting Resurrection as it just killed the franchise.)

I guess that if Scott does do an additional trilogy of alien films after awakening, he will hopefully flesh out the 57 year gap between Alien and Aliens. 

Sorry for such a long post - just kind of went on a roll. hope I’ve given some food for thought to all the Alien fans out there.

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HappyXeno

MemberFacehuggerMay-22-2017 10:36 AM

Interesting theory here. It is far-fetched, but I'm extremely open to any ideas that lead back to the first Alien. I love this idea of David becoming Ash purely because it would mean that David was essentially in the original film. That would be an incredible plot twist.

What's the story, MUTHUR?

sherris

MemberChestbursterMay-22-2017 12:50 PM

i think that your theory isnt as far fetched as you may think.

it ticks the boxes and isnt too outside the realms of possibility.

it is very plausible that david will want to transcend his body and if he gets the chance to he will go for it, if it means he is prolonging his life and/or its a do or die situation. possibly due to his plan being foiled and his secret/identity is out.

the idea that he can do such a thing is very believable too.  going from david to muthur or ash does not sound like a stretch to me.  it could well be a possibility. 

any ideas david has to extend his life will be delivered without question.  david seems to be wanting to head for god status but if his plans are foiled on the way then he would do anything he can to protect himself so maybe one day he can try again.

that would certainly include impersonating another ai or even a whole system (muthur) to maybe try again another time.

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LenantComputers

MemberOvomorphMay-25-2017 12:43 PM

I agree with what you have put apart from one thing.

I agree with the engineer crashing and being able to shoot the chest burster and i also beleave he was able to put out the warning signal that the nostromo picked up and the one ash lies about.

I think that when david is picked up by the humans i beleave weyland yutani hire him to work for them and re model david into ash and keep him a secret and place him as the science officer thats why the crew didnt know he was an android. Even though david doesnt like humans i think he knew doing this would be the only way to stay alive and atleast carry on his research so far all the crews that werent sent out all have 1 android on the ship apart from the nostromo so to me that indicates that ash really is david.

ash as an android was built the same as david with the ability to think for himself ash breaks quarrantine in the original alien.

this is something that the walter model would not have done.

in Aliens yutani have people terraforming on lv426 and probly send ripley back in hopes that she dies and the soldiers were probly sent over to see how they stand against the aliens.

also i think that Bishop from alien 2 would of been a walter model.

   

LenantComputers

MemberOvomorphMay-25-2017 12:56 PM

btw there is a physicist called David Ash, he talks about our origins and how we have been bio-engineered. He speaks about the role of evil in human evolution and why we are really here on planet Earth. https://youtu.be/wygjv223xIA

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