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Godzilla 2014: Food for thought

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Carnosaur

MemberMothra LarvaeSep-27-2014 2:41 PM

This is just something i've been tossing around in my head for a while, so here goes typing it out;

The 2014 Godzilla differs from other Godzilla movies as "He" is more animalistic in nature; in short order an animal.

Animals need a species to survive any long period of time. Thousands, if not millions of individuals would be needed to substain that species for the millenia Godzilla was thought to have existed before surfacing in 2014. The idea was lightly suggested that 2014 Goji was the last of his kind...but is this possible?

The more realistic aspect Edwards took with this film suggests, no. Although such large animals would certainly have a long life span, it vertainly would not stretch for millenia. I suspect we may see one, two, possibly even three more individuals of the "Godzilla" species in the trilogy we're so eagerly awaiting in the years to come. It makes sense; and as we know film ideas get kicked around as they are in the early production stages, so this idea is entirely plausible.

Moving on, Godzilla, as well as his aaccompanying enemies( MUTO's in the first film) are just doing what animals do: reproduce, and get rid of competition. I'm addressing this because i saw this component of "feeling sorrowful" for the female MUTO. Animals reproduce and kill to assure the proggression of their species - in the films it was somewhat at the expense of humanity - but i wouldn't say they're actively killing humans for the heck of it. They're immense, one step could end the lives of many...There isn't need for malicious thought in that aspect.

The animal aspect is one i suspect we will see more of in future movies, and how they introduce different Godzilla enemies with this in mind is definetly something to keep in mind, what do you guys think?

Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.

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TheGMan123

MemberTitanosaurusSep-27-2014 2:51 PM

Well, unfortunately, you're wrong about the whole "lifespan" thing. This Godzilla is, canonically, several MILLIONS of years old, predating the dinosaurs, his individual self showing up sometime in the Permian era. Though, you do have a point about some of the other stuff.

However, we must also remember these creatures, though they do have rather animalistic tendencies, are also somewhat beyond the mere common biological lifeform. I mean, you'd thionk it'd get lonely for a gigantic creature like Godzilla to live for millions of years in isolation only to surface when a threat to your survival and territory is at stake.

But he seems to be fine :P

Carnosaur

MemberMothra LarvaeSep-27-2014 3:02 PM

Yes, but, canonically, he took an asteroid to the face, right?

If we take the comic as canon, it kind of disrupts the realism of the movie, which is gonna leave some people confuzzled..

Lifespan is a tricky thing, really. Only single celled organisms can survive for millenia, but not as long as this Godzilla was said to exist.I'm still inclined to believe there was more then one of these things, as He had to come from somewhere... but that's just me.

Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.

TheGMan123

MemberTitanosaurusSep-27-2014 3:25 PM

Yes yes, he does indeed have a "species". However, I'm pretty sure he's likely on of the last of his kind, if not THE last of his kind. Also, this Godzilla tanked several nuclear detonations in the Pacific. Something as hardy as that gets to at least be believed to live longer than any known lifeform in overall proportion :P

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaSep-27-2014 3:44 PM

Again, this goes into the realm of over explaining Godzilla. Not to rob the fun out of considering his biology for some of you, but the reason a lot of this is either unexplained or left vague on screen, both in the old films and the new, is because it brings about a very important character trait for Godzilla: Science is baffled by him and can't fully explain him. He's beyond it for some reason. If single celled organisms are the only things that can survive for millions of years and Godzilla defies that rule then it's in line with what he's about.

I don't consider the comic book canon, but I believe that Godzilla is millions of years old. The creative assertion seems to be that he's so old that battles tend to exhaust him so I go along with that as well.

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ModeratorGiganSep-27-2014 3:50 PM

Um, this was a good explanation but im pretty much, 100% 0.999 everything 100 percent sure that Godzilla is the last of his kind it wouldnt make any sense to introduce more Godzilla's it doesnt need to happen and hasnt every happend in the series.

Gareth said when you have a formula dont change it, thats why Godzilla looks and acts like previous forms, just combined. So they wouldnt add something that will completely flop on them.

Good grief.

TW_G-Fan2014

MemberMothra LarvaeSep-27-2014 7:01 PM

Along with keeping to the realism of the world, they're still trying to capture the core elements of what made the original Toho Godzilla who he was.

Legendary's Godzilla is one of a kind, plain and simple. There will not be any other Godzillas to see in the sequels. Why? Because the original 1954 Gojira was supposed to be one of a kind as well. The only reason they brought him back for future movies was due to the success of the first, and it was a jump to capitalize on the monetary and popularity it brought. From then on, the Godzilla which we came to know was the last of his kind. This Godzilla is no different.

Perhaps at one time there were many, but not anymore.

Also, when discussing creatures that defy the laws of physics by nature of their very existence, nothing factual can be said in regards to their life span. Godzilla, the Godzilla we saw in the movie this year, is the same one that survived the Permian Extinction event before the dinosaurs according to the Godzilla: Awakening which is canon to the Legendary franchise. You can't say that he can't live for millennia (which is only thousands of years by the way) when he is confirmed to be the sole survivor of his species and is hundreds of millions of years old.

Not really sad to say it, but the theory of yours, while it might sound plausible, is not actually plausible at all. Not when a major part of Godzilla's design is to be one of a kind. Legendary won't be giving us any other Godzillas because it would completely destroy the integrity of the creature and all of his credibility thus far as a singular force of nature.

The King of the Monsters

MemberMothra LarvaeSep-27-2014 7:47 PM

The Godzilla in this universe will be the only living member of his kind (unless they choose to intoduce an adopted son for him, which would have to be handled very carefully). The skeleton in the beginning of the film has been confirmed to be a Godzilla skeleton, so if Legendary elects to utilize the next most popular Godzilla monster, Mechagodzilla, they could turn the skeleton into Mechagodzilla, emulating Kiryu. That or the appearance of more Godzillas in a flashback to the Precambrian is the closest we will get to more Godzillas.

"When man falls into conflict with nature, monsters are born." - Professor Hayashida, The Return of Godzilla

Godzilla316

MemberAnguirusSep-27-2014 11:55 PM

Whelp, my theory is that as long as he has a source of radiation, he is immortal

Remember that chap, I forget his name, he climbed Everest without any oxygen, came down nearly dead. They asked him, they said, "Why did you go up there to die?" He said, "I didn't, I went up there to live."
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