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Prometheus/Alien Series Timeline WIP

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Gavin

Jul-29-2014 2:29 PM

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Its been a while fellow Prometheans. I have been and continue to be busy with my many and varied admin duties for the whole Scified network, but while currently working on a "definitive" timeline for the Terminator movies it struck me that a similar timeline for the Prometheus/Alien saga would be awesome for this site. So I've dusted off an old document I started a while back, and with your help (missed dates, wrong dates, sources etc.) I think we can build the timeline up and then have Chris code into its own corner of this site, with pics, vids etc.

 

Part 1 - Up to the end of Prometheus

 

Ancient History

  • Pre-History – An Engineer sacrificed his life to create and spread life on Ancient Earth, through engineered evolution his genome was programmed to gradually and selectively appear throughout the evolution of life on Earth. [Source: Prometheus]

  • 35,000 BC - 680 AD – Engineers periodically returned to Earth, showing ancient humans the Zeta II Reticuli star system. [Source: Prometheus - Holloway/Shaw Artifacts dates] Thanks ElectricAve
  • Circa 100 AD – A team of Engineers stationed on LV-223, preparing to transport Xenomorph urns to Earth, inadvertently released the contents within. [Source: Prometheus] Thanks BigDave
  • 200 BC - 200 AD – An Engineer craft transporting Xenomorph eggs was forced to land on the small planetoid LV-426, the pilot of the craft, having falling victim to his cargo. [Source: Ridley Scott Quote] Thanks BigDave

  

2010-2094

  • 2012 – Peter Weyland founded the Weyland Corporation, which incorporated its parent group, Weyland Industries. [Source: Weyland Industries Website]

  • 2023, 28th February – Peter Weyland appeared at the annual TED conference, announcing the plans for the Weyland Corporation. [Source: Weyland Industries Website]
  • 2089 – Archaeologists Elizabeth Shaw and Charlie Holloway discovered another ancient depiction of tall humanoids pointing to the Zeta II Reticuli star system. [Source: Prometheus]
  • Circa 2090 – Ellen Ripley was born. [Source: Alien]
  • 2091, 22nd June – Sir Peter Weyland recorded a post-humous holographic recording for Project Prometheus, an eccentric trillion-dollar expedition to search for the truths to the origins of the human race. [Source: Prometheus]
  • 2091, 7th August – the USCSS Prometheus was launched. [Source: Prometheus - December 25th minus 2 years, 4 months, 18 days, 36 hours, 15 minutes]
  • 2093, 21st December - 2094, 1st January - The events as depicted in the movie Prometheus. [Source: Prometheus]

 Part 2 - Up to the end of Alien

2094-2122

  • 2094 - 2122 – Antarctica Traffic Control was constructed. [Source: Alien] DID IT EXIST BEFOREHAND?
  • 2094 - 2122 – The Weyland Corporation and the Yutani Corporation merge, becoming the largest conglomerate company in human history, the Weyland-Yutani Corporation. [Source: Alien]
  • Circa 2111 – Ellen Ripley gave birth to her daughter Amanda. [Source: See next event]
  • Circa 2121/2 – Ellen Ripley promises her daughter that she will be home before her 11th birthday after accepting a haulage job aboard the USCSS Nostromo. [Source: Aliens]
  • Circa 2121/2 – The USCSS Nostromo (Registration: 180942609) departs from Earth en-route to the Thedus Mining Colony in the Solomon’s, approximately 80 light years from Earth. [Source: Aliens]
  • 2122, Thedus Mining Colony – Weyland-Yutani synthetic Ash replaces the Nostromo’s Science Officer. [Source: Alien]
  • 2122, June 3rd - The events as depicted in the movie Alien. [Source: Alien]

 

I'll periodically check this thread and add up to the end of a movie at a time until we all make this complete and comprehensive - comments and suggestions are welcome too!

 

12 Responses to Prometheus/Alien Series Timeline WIP

BigDave

Jul-29-2014 4:42 PM

Thats a good idea, the events of post 2122 we all know about from Alien onwards, there is a lot of Mystrey sourounding the events between the discovery of LV 223 by Prometheus in 2093 and the events of Nostramo and LV 426 in 2122.

Never mind the events prior to LV 223 outbreak/possible sabotage some time around 0 AD

What would be interesting is when the Dark Horse Comics come out because they have been working closely with ideas Ridley had for the Franchise so maybe these could be considered canon to fill some of them gaps in.

What i am saying is the timeline has a lot of missing elements due to the nature of Prometheus Ambiguity and that while we would have to wait for a Part 2 to fill in gaps, maybe the Comic books can go some way to helping us when they are out in a few months.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

NibbiX

Jul-30-2014 12:32 AM

Hey Gavin, first Great Idea. The whole plot is a bit irritating so the summary might be a good way to give us a distant view on the complex time line.

But I think, there are some aspect that could be worked out more explicite.

First the timeline itself, you wrote 2000 years ago but from what point? I suggest the static timeline (BC - Before Christ.) would work much better here.

I'm not sure if you want to prevent further (elementary) discussion but you should give us some sources/"proofs". For example: This might sound a bit stupid but where did the information come from, that the space jockey from Alien (crash-)landed on LV-426 2000 years ago (~0 AD) next to the events on LV-223? Until today I always thought this should be main part of Prometheus' story to tell us what happened.

Another Question: 35,000-1,400 years ago? You mean 35,000-1,400 BC do you?

 

@BigDave: Thank you, I always thought that I'm the only one believing in possible sabotage :D

Gavin

Jul-30-2014 4:49 AM

Thanks guys,

@ Nibbix, thanks for the suggestions of using AD/BC and sources, these have been added to the OP.

@ Big Dave, part 2 has been added, regards ambiguity, yes the whole franchise is ambigious, but lets help fellow fans navigate some of the amibiguity with known, provable, and identifiable facts with this timeline

 

I've added some request to the timeline, especially the 0 AD timeframe for the Juggernaut/Derelict landing on LV-426 - I remember Ridley mentioned this 2-3 years ago but cant remember when and where, any help tracking down that quote/interview woud greatly help the timeline.

Keep your ideas, suggestions and amendments coming...

BigDave

Jul-30-2014 2:37 PM

Yes Ambiguity is key here, there is a lot of it so we dont have solid dates for certain things because none was never given in the movies,  and even Ridley when he made comments they was ambigious with regards to time line and events.

For example as NibbiX asked where you (Gavin) got the dates for LV 426 from...

Well Ridley did as you said say in a interview that the Space Jockeys craft had crashed on LV 426 (well he said it was not quite a crash so a rough/crash landing).  He said the event of this had occured within a few hundred years of the outbreak on LV 223 that killed off the Engineers.

Shaw said the Headless Engineer had been dead for 2000 years give or take, that would put that down to about 90 AD but Ridley said and hinted that the Engineers may had decided to wipe us out due to some event on Earth around that time, and hinted that the Crucifixion of Christ was the Last Straw for the Engineers.

So maybe we have to assume the Outbreak occured between 0AD and 100AD and so the Derelict crashed on LV 426 between 200 BC to 300 AD and we have to then ask, what is most likely, that the Engineers/Space Jockey was carrying his cargo hundreds years after the Outbreak on LV 223 while crashing not to far from there?  Or hundreds years prior.

Sorry if this is off topic, i was just trying to point out that Ridley never gave us a time line just few within hundreds years of LV 223 Outbreak so thats either 100-200 AD or 200-300 BC. But then depending which it is after or before outbreak and how its period of hundreds of years when consider what the Agenda of LV 223 outpost was at the time of outbreak futher adds more Mystrey if we consider either few hundred years before or prior to the outbreak.... i have few logical ideas that kind of then contridict some things we meant to believe regarding the Killing Jesus that got Engineers made angle.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

ElectricAve

Jul-31-2014 6:56 AM

Pretty sure there is no 0AD (it goes from 1BC to 1AD)

I made this list for a discussion on  another forum - archaeological discoveries that give weight to Shaw & Holloway's previsitation theory:

 

Isle of Skye 35,000 bce

c. 35,000 bce
* Beginning of the Late Stone Age (sudden, unexplained emergence of modern behavior)
* Neanderthal man dies out (Homo Sapiens enters Europe, Japan, Australia...)
* Oldest known musical instrument (Hohle Fels Flute, found in Germany)
* Oldest known mathematical artifact (a tally stick called the Lebombo Bone)

Sumerian 3590 bce

c. 3500 bce
* First known use of Tin (alloyed w/copper, creates bronze)

c. 3600 bce
* Bronze Age begins
* Invention of the written word (beginning of recorded history)
* Oldest religious manmade structures are built (Ggantija - megalithic temples of Malta)
* Earliest known image of a wheeled vehicle (Bronocice Pot)

Egyptian 2470 bce

c. 2500 bce
* Construction of the first and largest of the 3 Great Pyramids
* Construction of the Sphynx of Giza (largest monolith statue in the world)
* The largest megaliths of Stonehenge are erected (part 3, phase II)
* First known calendar system is established in Sumeria
* Earliest image of a surgical operation in progress (Egypt, see Edwin Papyrus 1550 bce)
c. 2400 bce
* Earliest recorded use of seagoing ships for military purposes (2450 bce)
* Earliest known female doctor/physician (Peseshet)


Hittite 1760 bce

c. 1800 bce
 * Oldest known medical text of any kind (Kahun Gynaecological Papyrus)
c. 1750 bce
* Code of Hammurabi (first written code of law, 1772 bce)
* Death of Hammurabi (first king of the Babylonian Empire)
*  Babylonian sciences (In astronomy, planets and constellations are identified and named. In mathematics, the concept of place value in numbers).
* Symbol for zero invented for use in accounting (Egypt, 1740 bce)
c. 1700 bce
* The first combined version of the 5 independent Sumerian poems about "Bilgamesh" (known today as the "Old Babylonian" version of the Epic of Gilgamesh)
* Median date for the building of the Phaistos Disc (one of the most famous mysteries of archaeology. Its purpose, meaning, and place of origin remains unknown)
* The first written record about the human brain, describing it's general anatomy (by an unnamed physician in Ancient Egypt)
* Bronze Age starts in China

Babylonian 1540 bce

c. 1550 bce
* Oldest known star chart (Senmut's Star Map - 1534 bce)
* Earthquake collapses the walls of Jericho - the city is abandoned for centuries.
* Last known construction at Stonehenge
* Beginning of the "New Kingdom" (the legendary 18th Dynasty of Egypt)
* The earliest surviving scientific treatise on surgery (Edwin Smyth Papyrus - appears to be a copy of a manuscript written about 2500 bce)

Mayan 620 ce

* Isra and Mi'raj - the two parts of a Night Journey that the prophet Muhammad took during a single night around the year 621 ad. It has been described as both a physical and spiritual journey.... In the journey, Muhammad travels (accompanied by the angel Gabriel) on the steed Buraq, from Mecca to "the farthest mosque" where he leads other prophets in prayer. He then ascends to Paradise where he speaks to God, who gives Muhammad instructions to take back to the faithful regarding the details of prayer. According to traditions, the journey is associated with the Lailat al Mi'raj, as one of the most significant events in the Islamic calendar.

Hawaiian 680 ce

* Invention of Kufic - main script used to copy the Qu'ran for the next 400 yrs (680 ce)
* Martyrdom of the prophet Muhammad's grandson (680 ad Battle of Karbala - a prophecy was given to Muhammad by the angel Gabriel, that his grandson would die at that particular place & time).
* Third Council of Constantinople (the sixth Ecumenical Council) - The Orthodox Church, the Catholic Church and other Christian groups, convene in 680/681 to settle a set of theological controversies that go back to the 6th century (500-99 ad). The Council condemned monoenergism and monothelitism as heretical and defined Jesus Christ as having two energies and two wills (divine and human)

 

^the two most recent star maps were dated only 60 years apart, and could be part of the same visit (so 7 maps = 6 visits)

 

  • Neanderthal man dies out (Homo Sapiens enters Europe, Japan, Australia...)
  • Oldest known musical instrument (Hohle Fels Flute, found in Germany)  
  • Oldest known mathematical artifact (a tally stick called the Lebombo Bone)


Sumerian 3590 bce
c. 3500 bce

  • First known use of Tin (alloyed w/copper, creates bronze)
  •  

c. 3600 bce

  • Bronze Age begins
  • Invention of the written word (beginning of recorded history)
  • Oldest religious manmade structures are built (Ggantija - megalithic temples of Malta)
  • Earliest known image of a wheeled vehicle (Bronocice Pot)


Egyptian 2470 bce
c. 2500 bce

  • Construction of the first and largest of the 3 Great Pyramids
  • Construction of the Sphynx of Giza (largest monolith statue in the world)
  • The largest megaliths of Stonehenge are erected (part 3, phase II)
  • First known calendar system is established in Sumeria
  • Earliest image of a surgical operation in progress (Egypt, see Edwin Papyrus 1550 bce)

c. 2400 bce

  • Earliest recorded use of seagoing ships for military purposes (2450 bce)
  • Earliest known female doctor/physician (Peseshet)



Hittite 1760 bce
c. 1800 bce

c. 1750 bce

  • Code of Hammurabi (first written code of law, 1772 bce)
  • Death of Hammurabi (first king of the Babylonian Empire)
  • Babylonian sciences (In astronomy, planets and constellations are identified and named.  In mathematics, the concept of place value in numbers).
  • Symbol for zero invented for use in accounting (Egypt, 1740 bce)

c. 1700 bce

  • The first combined version of the 5 independent Sumerian poems about "Bilgamesh" (known today as the "Old Babylonian" version of the Epic of Gilgamesh)
  • Median date for the building of the Phaistos Disc (one of the most famous mysteries of archaeology. Its purpose, meaning, and place of origin remains unknown)
  • The first written record about the human brain, describing it's general anatomy (by an unnamed physician in Ancient Egypt)
  • Bronze Age starts in China


Babylonian 1540 bce
c. 1550 bce

  • Oldest known star chart (Senmut's Star Map - 1534 bce)
  • Earthquake collapses the walls of Jericho - the city is abandoned for centuries.
  • Last known construction at Stonehenge
  • Beginning of the "New Kingdom" (the legendary 18th Dynasty of Egypt)
  • The earliest surviving scientific treatise on surgery (Edwin Smyth Papyrus - appears to be a copy of a manuscript written about 2500 bce) 


Mayan 620 ce

  • Isra and Mi'raj - the two parts of a Night Journey that the prophet Muhammad took during a single night around the year 621 ad. It has been described as both a physical and spiritual journey.... In the journey, Muhammad travels (accompanied by the angel Gabriel) on the steed Buraq, from Mecca to "the farthest mosque" where he leads other prophets in prayer. He then ascends to Paradise where he speaks to God, who gives Muhammad instructions to take back to the faithful regarding the details of prayer. According to traditions, the journey is associated with the Lailat al Mi'raj, as one of the most significant events in the Islamic calendar.


Hawaiian 680 ce

  • Invention of Kufic - main script used to copy the Qu'ran for the next 400 yrs (680 ce)
  • Martyrdom of the prophet Muhammad's grandson (680 ad Battle of Karbala - a prophecy was given to Muhammad by the angel Gabriel, that his grandson would die at that particular place & time).
  • Third Council of Constantinople (the sixth Ecumenical Council) - The Orthodox Church, the Catholic Church and other Christian groups, convene in 680/681 to settle a set of theological controversies that go back to the 6th century (500-99 ad). The Council condemned monoenergism and monothelitism as heretical and defined Jesus Christ as having two energies and two wills (divine and human)

Isle of Skye 35,000 bce 
c. 35,000 bce

  • Beginning of the Late Stone Age (sudden, unexplained emergence of modern behavior)
  • Neanderthal man dies out (Homo Sapiens enters Europe, Japan, Australia...)
  • Oldest known musical instrument (Hohle Fels Flute, found in Germany)  
  • Oldest known mathematical artifact (a tally stick called the Lebombo Bone)


Sumerian 3590 bce
c. 3500 bce

  • First known use of Tin (alloyed w/copper, creates bronze)
  •  

c. 3600 bce

  • Bronze Age begins
  • Invention of the written word (beginning of recorded history)
  • Oldest religious manmade structures are built (Ggantija - megalithic temples of Malta)
  • Earliest known image of a wheeled vehicle (Bronocice Pot)


Egyptian 2470 bce
c. 2500 bce

  • Construction of the first and largest of the 3 Great Pyramids
  • Construction of the Sphynx of Giza (largest monolith statue in the world)
  • The largest megaliths of Stonehenge are erected (part 3, phase II)
  • First known calendar system is established in Sumeria
  • Earliest image of a surgical operation in progress (Egypt, see Edwin Papyrus 1550 bce)

c. 2400 bce

  • Earliest recorded use of seagoing ships for military purposes (2450 bce)
  • Earliest known female doctor/physician (Peseshet)



Hittite 1760 bce
c. 1800 bce

c. 1750 bce

  • Code of Hammurabi (first written code of law, 1772 bce)
  • Death of Hammurabi (first king of the Babylonian Empire)
  • Babylonian sciences (In astronomy, planets and constellations are identified and named.  In mathematics, the concept of place value in numbers).
  • Symbol for zero invented for use in accounting (Egypt, 1740 bce)

c. 1700 bce

  • The first combined version of the 5 independent Sumerian poems about "Bilgamesh" (known today as the "Old Babylonian" version of the Epic of Gilgamesh)
  • Median date for the building of the Phaistos Disc (one of the most famous mysteries of archaeology. Its purpose, meaning, and place of origin remains unknown)
  • The first written record about the human brain, describing it's general anatomy (by an unnamed physician in Ancient Egypt)
  • Bronze Age starts in China


Babylonian 1540 bce
c. 1550 bce

  • Oldest known star chart (Senmut's Star Map - 1534 bce)
  • Earthquake collapses the walls of Jericho - the city is abandoned for centuries.
  • Last known construction at Stonehenge
  • Beginning of the "New Kingdom" (the legendary 18th Dynasty of Egypt)
  • The earliest surviving scientific treatise on surgery (Edwin Smyth Papyrus - appears to be a copy of a manuscript written about 2500 bce) 


Mayan 620 ce

  • Isra and Mi'raj - the two parts of a Night Journey that the prophet Muhammad took during a single night around the year 621 ad. It has been described as both a physical and spiritual journey.... In the journey, Muhammad travels (accompanied by the angel Gabriel) on the steed Buraq, from Mecca to "the farthest mosque" where he leads other prophets in prayer. He then ascends to Paradise where he speaks to God, who gives Muhammad instructions to take back to the faithful regarding the details of prayer. According to traditions, the journey is associated with the Lailat al Mi'raj, as one of the most significant events in the Islamic calendar.


Hawaiian 680 ce

  • Invention of Kufic - main script used to copy the Qu'ran for the next 400 yrs (680 ce)
  • Martyrdom of the prophet Muhammad's grandson (680 ad Battle of Karbala - a prophecy was given to Muhammad by the angel Gabriel, that his grandson would die at that particular place & time).
  • Third Council of Constantinople (the sixth Ecumenical Council) - The Orthodox Church, the Catholic Church and other Christian groups, convene in 680/681 to settle a set of theological controversies that go back to the 6th century (500-99 ad). The Council condemned monoenergism and monothelitism as heretical and defined Jesus Christ as having two energies and two wills (divine and human)

Gavin

Jul-31-2014 2:40 PM

Okay guys, some amendmens made, as per your invaluable info, once peeps agree and are happy with whats down so far I'll add the next part.

Engineer Tech Brett

Aug-12-2014 7:19 AM

"2012 – Peter Weyland founded the Weyland Corporation, which incorporated its parent group, Weyland Industries. [Source: Weyland Industries Website]"

 

Really?

This again?

Where does it say that?

Viddy well, little brother. Viddy well.

Lord Ennio

Aug-15-2014 4:32 PM

I'm curious to read the connection between the Engineers, The Predators, and the Xenomorphs in the upcomg cross-over series from Dark Horse Comics.

BigDave

Aug-16-2014 3:28 AM

That would be interesting and the comics could give us some clues that can be added to the timeline if we are to class them as Canon... Ridley has worked with Dark Horse Comics and so has green lighted some things and let them explore certain things.... So if Dark Horse want to some how involve the predators to be behind the Xeno Origins, that it would be either the Comics are not going to tie in with Alien/Prometheus and Canon or that the Predator/Xeno connection is something that Ridley Green Light... not saying this is the case i am saying that anything Dark Horse shows regarding the Xeno/Engineer/Goo link would be something they would have discussed and got a nod from Ridley to go down what ever route they take.

As for Predators being part of Alien Canon... at the moment no.. but thats not to say they wont, if the Predator connection was done right it could have worked i.e based on timeline of the Video Games and not the Movies. 

As it is a bit funny that the Urns that contain the Goo have markings on that differ from the Engineer writtings and does look Predator Writting lol, but thats not to say it is.  But i have a funny feeling that somehow the Engineers either Stole the Goo from some other race or that they used their Goo on some other Bio Weapon created by some other race.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

brego

Aug-24-2014 1:53 AM

Fantastic work Gavin, and great replies everyone...

I really want the Derelict which crash landed on LV426 to have originated from LV223 via an Engineer pilot who escaped the doomed group. I would love to think that he was face hugged on LV223, escaped, bursted and crashed on LV426. The Xeno which bust matured and layed the eggs.... Perfect link to Alien.

BigDave

Aug-26-2014 10:15 AM

Can we see the Comics as Canon?

Maybe they would give us clues?

Ridley did say that the Derelict and Space Jockey met their fate within a few hundred years of the fall of the LV 223 outpost and outbreak some 2000 years ago when they set off to Earth but things went wrong.

But logically could this be few hundred years prior?  If so was the Eggs a First Attempt and then it ws back to the drawing board to Re-Weaponize on LV 223?

Was these Eggs being carried to LV 223 to be experimented on?

If it was few hundred years after, then that makes things a bit more complicated, if its something that Evolved on the Ship after it crashed? But Ridley said the ships Cargo was Eggs.

Did on Ship later after its Pilot went into Cryo Sleep like Last Engineer, wait for something to Evolve and then proceed to Earth but not get to far?

Did these Eggs Evolve after the LV 223 outbreak and the Space Jockey collected them to transport to Earth or some place else?

I guess maybe we shall never know.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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