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The big three, Tyrannosaurus X, and Spino size revised

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Dynamosaurus Imperiosus/ Raptorexxx 700

MemberCompsognathusApr-26-2014 5:26 AM

Tyrannosaurus size:

Most of us know that the largest confirmed size of tyrannosaurus is 12.3 m and 9.1 tons but there are alleged larger speciemens out there and actually There has been a debate going on about F.rex and C.rex and what they are(i already did a conversation on this before but i found out something new).one thing that proved that they weren't a different species is that the teeth fragments there were defintely tyrannosaur because they were rounded, something only present in tyrannosaurs. It was puzzling as it also has more teeth less robust bones until i found out about Tyrannosaurus X incase you didn't know tyrannosaurus X is basically tyrannosaurus version 2.0 it has more teeth, it is less robust, with longer legs, and is lighter. The largest confirmed size for it is MOR 008 since it has different proportions from Sue (FMNH PR2081) and even though it has a smaller skull 134 cm it measures around 12.57 m while sue with the 144 cm skull measures around 12.3 m. With the little remains of F.rex i found out was that F.rex's (MOR 1126) proportions more closely resemble MOr 008's which puts the giant around 14.12 to 14.3 M !!! yet it's less robust build and lighter body make it weigh around 8.3-9.2tons while C.rex's (MOR 1152) proportions are closer to Sue's which put it around 13.5-13.76 m and 10.2-11.03 tons!!!! There is also UCMP 137538 but it is far too fragmentary to be estimated,if the stats are right it might actually be a 14.85-15.13 m long 15-16 ton Tyrannosaurus REX but i don't really take these estimations seriously.

                                 Here are My final Estimations for Tyrannosaurus

Tyrannosaurus X
max confirmed length: 12.57 m ( MOR 008 )
max confirmed weight: 7.4 tons ( MOR 008 )
max estimated length: 14.12 m ( MOR 1126 )
max estimated weight: 8.6-9.2 tons                                                                               

Tyrannosaurus Rex
max confirmed length: 12.3 m ( FMNH PR2081)
max confirmed weight: 9.1 tons ( FMNH PR2081)
max estimated length: 13.76 m (MOR 1152 )
max estimated weight: 10.2 - 11.03 tons (MOR 1152)

 Stats

Tyrannosaurus X                                                                                                        

confirmed speed: 25-32 mph                                                                                    

Estimated speed: 36-38.8 mph                                                                                    

confirmed bite force: 10000 lbs                                                                              

estimated bite force: 14000 lbs

Tyrannosaurus Rex                                                                                                    

confirmed speed: 25-27 mph                                                                                  

Estimated speed: 31-36 mph                                                                                  

confirmed bite force: 12800 lbs                                                                              

estimated bite force: 16000 lbs

 

Giganotosaurus Size:

Unlike Tyrannoaurus there is not much room for estimation with giganotosaurus but that doesn't mean it's not a giant,the holotype is almost as large as the largest confirmed tyrannosaurus at 12.3 m and 7 tons(note: same length yet lighter body ) The largest speciemen supposedly is MUCPv-95 with an estimated length of 13.2 m and a weight of around 9 tons there isn't anymore speciemens found complete enough for more estimations but alleged new material would put around 13.6- 14.4 m yet like UCMP 137538 this material is probably not to be trusted

                                   Here are My final Estimations for Giganotosaurus

Giganotosaurus Carolinii
max confirmed length: 12.2 m ( MUCPv-Ch1)
max confirmed weight: 6.8- 7.6 tons ( MUCPv-Ch1)
max estimated length: 13.35 m ( MUCPv-95 )
max estimated weight: 8.2-9 tons( MUCPv-95 )

                                        Stats

giganotosaurus Carolinii                                                                                               confirmed speed: 27-31 mph                                                                                       estimated speed: 34-40 mph                                                                                     confirmed bite force: 4000-9,700 lbs                                                                           estimated bite force: 9,700-10000 lbs

Spinosaurus size:

Three words: spinosaurus is big.end of sentence. Spinosaurus is an absoultly amazing creature i have never seen a creature that looks like it's at home on both land and water i mean the creature also has 2 m high sail that makes it look like it's from a science fiction movie ohh and it is also an 18.2 m long behemoth. Yet sadly like giganotosaurus Spinosaurus remains are very fragmentary (or we are just not looking hard enough; i'm from Egypt lol) anyway the only 3 speciemens found measure between 11-18.2 m long a huge range to estimate from but anyway i like to support an average of 16 m and a max of 18.2 m.

                                  Here are My final Estimations for Spinosaurus

Spinosaurus Aegypticus
max confirmed length: 14.3-16.5 m ( BSP 1912 VIII 19 )
max confirmed weight: 7-8.5 tons (BSP 1912 VIII 19 )
max estimated length: 17.8-18.2 m ( MSNM V4047 )
max estimated weight: 11.7-12.8 tons ( MSNM V4047 )

anyway i hope u like the topic and i am now doing some research on the famous montana dueling dinosaurs and i have some amazing things to share about them; Have a nice day :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

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Lord Vader

MemberTyrannosaurus RexApr-26-2014 6:34 AM

Those are pretty reasonable estimates.

Jack of all trades. Master of none

UCMP 118742

MemberCompsognathusApr-26-2014 7:13 AM
Indeed. Very well done.

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Carnosaur

MemberCompsognathusApr-26-2014 9:07 AM

i always thought Tyrannosaurus X was justa male Tyrannosaurus...interesting indeed though. I agree with the majority of your estimates

 

Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.

Dynamosaurus Imperiosus/ Raptorexxx 700

MemberCompsognathusApr-26-2014 1:46 PM

Actually Carnosaur so did I until i noticed some strange anomalies like how come there are so much females and so little males also the fact that the number of teeth is different which almost never happens with most species but didn't really start saying it is a separate species until Illeterate Scholar's Vlog about it :D 

Raptor-401

MemberAllosaurusApr-26-2014 2:41 PM

Very well done too.

IT'S TIME TO DU-DU-DU-DU-DUEL!!!

Jezza

MemberCompsognathusJun-05-2014 2:52 PM

Nicely done Raptorexxx.

I put T-rex at 40-43 ft. long, 8.5 (maybe 8.7) tons, and 16-17 ft. tall.

Giganotosaurus at 44-47ft. long, 7.8-8.3 tons, and 18-19 ft. tall.

Spinosaurus at 60 ft. long, 11-12 (maybe 12.5) tons, and 27-28 ft. tall (including sail).

Everyone has different opions.

Youre fat, and I'm not sugarcoating it cause you'd probably eat that too.

Carnosaur

MemberCompsognathusJun-05-2014 8:00 PM

Carchar is most likely bigger then Giga..

Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.

Dynamosaurus Imperiosus/ Raptorexxx 700

MemberCompsognathusJun-06-2014 12:39 AM

i think they are almost the same length but carchar is probably heavier 

Carnosaur

MemberCompsognathusJun-06-2014 9:47 AM

Everything i've read puts Carchy larger overall. Even though the African skull Sereno unearthed was slightly exaggerated, Carcharodontosaurus still has an overall larger estimated TBW With Giga weighing 6.5 - 7 tons; Carchar weighing in around 7 - 9 tons.

Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.

Dynamosaurus Imperiosus/ Raptorexxx 700

MemberCompsognathusJun-06-2014 10:29 PM

well... you kind of underestimate giga. i would put it at around 8 tons while Carchar at 9-9.7 tons max

 

Acro Rex

MemberCompsognathusJun-08-2014 12:56 AM

interesting indeed, i agree with the majority of your estimates. Not really at either extreme for any of these theropods, but some where in the middle. Good job

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