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Godzilla: The Director's Cut

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BCrockett94

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-03-2013 2:25 PM

So it's been generally accepted that the movie is going to be PG13, although it hasn't been confirmed as far as I can tell. However, Gareth Edward's Monsters was rated R. Do you think that there could be, and should be, a director's cut of Godzilla, where we get to see some pretty gruesome things that had to be taken out for the sake of keeping the movie PG13?

I mean, I think I prefer an R rated Godzilla movie over a PG13 movie, especially when I consider the fact that this movie is going to be a darker, realistic take on Godzilla, and let's be honest.. If Godzilla happened to stumble onto a big city, a lot of R rated things would be happening, realistically speaking it'd be pushing on the boundaries of NC17 if you add in the mutos and what those little buggers would be doing.

So how many of you would be interested in seeing a Director's Cut of Godzilla? I know I would. 

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xxsaberblackcrow

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-03-2013 2:43 PM

I think it,s not going too be PG 13 because the movie is kinda going too be a horror movie like think about a 5 year old who is a G Fan And when he see,s like idk dead body,s he,s going too get scard so i think the movie is going too be for 13,s or teens but not PG 13 because Edwards said his Godzilla movie will be more realistic and serious 

xxsaberblackcrow

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-03-2013 3:08 PM

And also im pretty sure There will be no Director,s cut

 

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaDec-03-2013 3:26 PM

This is a goofy question at this point. We haven't even seen the film yet and know nothing of what's been cut from the film-- for all we know the movie won't need a director's cut.

As for the rating I would put down my entire life's earnings it will be PG-13. An R rating would limit the audience intake and, like it or not, Godzilla's for kids too. Besides an R rating does not mean a better movie or even a darker movie. Gore and violence are just cheap shots used in horror films to get a reaction out of people. I would hope the new Godzilla movie doesn't rely on that.

Christopher Nolan's Memento and Insomnia were R rated, but The Dark Knight movies were very dark films with PG-13 ratings. It's proof you don't have to show graphic scenes or include an R rating to be a dark movie. Godzilla will most likely be similar.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

BCrockett94

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-03-2013 3:27 PM

So what do you think the rating is going to be? PG-13 isn't necessarily for kids, but it allows for more of a broader audience.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaDec-03-2013 3:31 PM

I already said I'd put my entire life's earnings on a PG-13 rating and that's what I'm sticking with. PG-13 is the perfect marketing rating for summer blockbusters. It convinces audiences that it's "mature enough" for the older demograph and allows children the chance to see it as well. Like you said, it invites a broader audience, which is key here.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

BCrockett94

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-03-2013 3:36 PM

Gman, I'm just saying that it would add a very realistic feel, something that they're going for. I'm just saying that when the movie comes out on bluray or something, I'd be completely in favor of seeing a Director's Cut (if there is one). I'm not saying make the theatrical release rated R, but maybe release a "director's cut" along with the theatrical version. This isn't all that uncommon with movies.

 

Recap: because I don't think I made much sense

 

Godzilla releases into theaters as a PG13 movie. When the movie gets released on Bluray, DVD, and digital download sites (iTunes and Amazon), they could release both Theatrical Release and a Director's cut (for those that would be interested in that)

BCrockett94

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-03-2013 3:37 PM

Gman, that first comment after yours was for xxsaber. xD Not for you.

xxsaberblackcrow

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-03-2013 3:51 PM

Lol Gman XD but i do got i point the movie is not for kids maybe for teens and 13 year olds

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaDec-03-2013 3:54 PM

I understand, but I still don't see much of a point to it at this stage. If we hear a lot of stuff was laid on the cutting room floor, then maybe. But even movies that have done a great job of being "dark and realistic" don't exactly need or have a director's cut. (Again, look at The Dark Knight.) And personally, I hope there is no concious effort, or cut, that involves a lot of blood, violence...etc... That's never been what the Godzilla series is about and it would be a shame to include that stuff now.

This brings to mind the extended version of The Wolverine. I recently got the chance to watch that cut and can honestly say that the added gore, violence and profanity does absolutely nothing to help the movie's feel or story. In fact it just seems like a trashy and immature attempt to make things more "adult". The end result is quite tacky and I prefere the theatrical cut. It's rare that I find director's cuts better. There are exceptions though...

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

xxsaberblackcrow

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-03-2013 3:58 PM

All i no that when Godzilla 2014 movie comes out there will be some much people linding up for the movie and i checked on Rotten tomatoes the place where they rank the movies there was 99 people who wanted too see it boy i guess everyone wanted the king of monsters return and im gussing that lots of 13 year olds and teens will be there so yea it,s not going too be PG 13 and Gman dont worry about kids not watching the movie there will be DvD,s for the movie and the kids will be wanting for it

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaDec-03-2013 4:06 PM

I'm pretty sure kids will see this in theaters anyway, xxSaber. It will be PG-13 and kids will still see it. Case in point (for the third time): The Dark Knight. It was dark and realistic as well, but kids still saw and there was enough toys for those kids in every store in America.

The point is, something that is "dark and realistic" doesn't depend on blood, violence and gore. It depends on the way the story is written: Like The Dark Knight or the theatrical cut of The Wolverine, or Man of Steel...etc...etc... All of these movies were, the overused term, "dark and realistic" but they didn't have to be overtly violent to do so and they still appealed to children as well. Godzilla will most likely be no different.

As for a director's cut-- that depends on the director, the studio and the demand for such a thing. At this stage it's impossible to tell, but unlikely I would think.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

xxsaberblackcrow

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-03-2013 4:12 PM

Gman your kinda right but i no the movie is not going too be that scary like it doesn,t matter if the movie is dark and horror it,s about how people like the movie and yes i no there will be lots of kids there too see godzilla here,s an example

OMG IT,S GODZILLA!!! XD

OMG I CANT WAIT TOO SEE HIM IN 3D IM NOT EVEN GO TOO PEE ME PANTS XD

I CANT WAIT TOO SEE GODZILLAL,S ENEMY

WEEEHOOOO GODZILLA!

that is an example of kids getting exited about The new Godzilla film and also

im not going too be super hyper about the relase of the new movie just like what i did for of

an example of a kid getting super hyped about the movie

 

xxsaberblackcrow

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-03-2013 4:38 PM

I still dont no if old people could watch the movie too :/

Godzillasaurus

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-03-2013 4:53 PM

It will be PG-13... I have no doubt about that

Oh yea, and Godzilla isn't FOR kids, Gman, he is just a character who STARTED OFF AS A NUCLEAR MENACE IN A MOVIE THAT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE FOR KIDS. This movies is most definitely NOT going to be for kids. Kids will still see it, but it is still going to be a dark movie whose intended audience is, fundamentally, adults.

If this was a movie about a humanoid frog bouncing up and down teaming up with power rangers and fighting monsters made out of garbage, then maybe I would say otherwise.

And to the guy above me, that is not what kids would say at all about this movie... Most kids aren't going to be surfing the web every day searching for movie news and talking on forums about it, so those "reactions" are unrealistic.

xxsaberblackcrow

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-03-2013 5:00 PM

Godzillasaurus you got a point what if the kids get,s too scard if the movie show,s dead people or blood maybe the kids will run out the movie theater and say i dont like this movie get me out of here so i think the one,s who can watch it is 13,s and 18,s or 17s

Akio123

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-03-2013 5:21 PM

AT THE HEART of Godzilla. He was NOT for kids. He was considered a horror monster. Just look at the original movie. Hell, I watched it the other day and it still surprises me. It scared grown people then. Godzilla only BECAME an image to kids oncer he started becoming a hero in the movies. He wasn't as horrifying then, because he ended up protecting. Anyway,  I don't think we'd get a directors cut, although that would be awesome. 

mattman559

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-03-2013 5:21 PM

i doubt any deleted scenes would have much godzilla in them at all anyway, those scenes are too expensive to just not put in the movie. if there are any deleted scenes its most like 80% will just be all humans being all human beings

mattman559

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-03-2013 5:21 PM

accidentally double posted

xxsaberblackcrow

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-03-2013 5:33 PM

Godzilla was ment too be a Force of nature But then toho made godzilla in too a super hero and i really want godzilla too stay as a bad guy

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaDec-03-2013 7:19 PM

@Godzillasaurus

I never once said Godzilla was "for kids" only. You need to re-read and show me where I said that, because I never once insinuated that in my writing. I think both kids and adults share the targeted demograph for Godzilla. That said, you're wrong. While the original movie wasn't exactly for children (and this new movie is most likely written to appeal to an older demograph) I'd say a good 2/3s of the 28 Godzilla movies were intended to appeal to children or families. Yes even movies in the Heisei and Millennium series.

Now here's where you're absolutely right: Kids will still see it. No matter how you slice it children, ages 6-15, are still going to play a huge part in the box office of this movie. Regardless of how "dark and realistic" it is, it will never be so dark and dank to not appeal to younger audiences.

@xxSaber

There were plenty of kids who went to see Batman Begins and The Dark Knight-- both of those movies had fairly "scary" moments, but not one child left the theater. Why? Because Batamn appeals to kids. And so does Godzilla.

The toys are proof. Why spend millions of dollars making toys for a movie if Warner Brothers isn't trying to make Godzilla appeal to children in some way? Then there's the leaked cover of that children's Godzilla book. Listen, the movie can be as dark and gritty as it likes, but the fact is Warner Brothers still sees a market for kids in this movie and they're going milk it that way if they can.

G-Fans need to move away from this illusion that Godzilla is some sort of dark, dank, violent goul that will only be for adults. History has shown young audiences enjoy Godzilla and, like it or not, they will always play a big part in how these movies are made. There will never be a Godzilla movie that isn't accessable to kids and young teens.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

BCrockett94

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-03-2013 7:32 PM

Gman, buddy, I was just waking up when I was posting, or still very tired, and all I really meant by this post (despite what it appears that I'm saying) is that it would be pretty cool if there was a bunch of cut material that was pushing the movie in an R rated direction, and if they released that material in the form of a director's cut.

I never meant to imply that the movie has to have gore and violence to be dark. I meant that it would be neat if there was gore in places where it'd be "tastefully" done, but by adding it into the theatrical movie would be giving it an R rating, so they give us a director's cut. I never meant to imply that there was going to be any cut material, I was just asking if there was cut material (for the sake of a PG13 rating), if anyone would be interested in purchasing that when it becomes available.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaDec-03-2013 7:39 PM

@BCRockett94

Indeed, and I understand that, but the conversation has since taken a different turn and I've addressed those comments as they have come.

But a director's cut of the kind you're alluding to doesn't sound like much of a director's cut. "Tasteful" gore that was removed sounds like quick shots that might add up to a few seconds at most. (And that's often all it takes to get a movie an R or PG-13 rating-- depending on which way you're swinging it.)

But of course, if there were a director's cut, I'd be interested in seeing it. I just beleive there are too many factors in play for such a cut to exist.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

BCrockett94

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-03-2013 7:43 PM

Yeah, you're probably right. 

Durp004

MemberBaragonDec-03-2013 8:23 PM

The only difference there would really be is:

Theatrical movie: You see people getting caught in explosions, buildings falling on them, and after effects of attacks, hospital scenes ect

Director's cut: You see the people actually spewing blood, and more profanity.

Honestly the line you can take it with PG 13 nowadays is pretty far. definitely enough to encompass what the movies is trying to show. I don't think a Director's cut would really add that much more, if anything, that wasn't done well enough in the actual movie.

That said I'd still probably get it just so I'd have the option to watch both, and have extra scenes to enjoy, or make fun of if the movie ends of bad.

King_of_Zombies

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-03-2013 8:55 PM

today, every movie is pg13, it needs to be too much sex, a lot of drugs and blood to be R, so I think it will be PG13.

doggiezilla

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-03-2013 11:49 PM

directors cuts suck

Kyero

MemberMothra LarvaeDec-04-2013 12:40 PM

Look guys, the only thing that has been confirmed is that the first trailer is going to be rated PG to PG-13. Why? Becuase they want news of the film to reach a wider audience. Even if a trailer is rated PG-13 for the sake of advertising, the film does not always follow suit. The Godzilla film itself could have a PG, PG-13, NC-17, G, or R. We don't know yet.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, misinterpretation of information leads to false rumors and pointless debates much like those on this page. The trailer is known to be rated, not the film. This entire page is pointless and based on speculation and a misinterpretation of provided information about a trailer that was translated to the film by mistake.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaDec-04-2013 1:52 PM

@Kyero

That's incorrect. This conversation took place before we knew information about the trailer being PG in Canada. So the discussion we've been having about the rating has nothing to do with the trailer information. It's all based, quite frankly, on what we know of summer blockbuster marketing and common sense.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."
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