Should Bagan be in a Godzilla sequel? Or in the last Legendary Godzilla film?

id also would like to see bagan be used in at least one movie. ive never played super godzilla but ive heard a lot about this monster. it would make an interesting final enemy

Bagan was scrapped for Destoroyah because Toho decided to make Godzilla vs Destoroyah and released it as the final Godzilla movies in the 90's. Honestly all I know about Bagan is that the monster is a super monster with power house attacks and gives godzilla a run for it. Untill he turns super of course just like in the game. 

This what Bagan looks like. I'm really surprised that Toho has never put the monster in theaters to fight Godzilla yet, But if Legendary would do that, then I want to see a Super-beast battle of the millenium.

im suprised myself. i just read up on him he was supposed to be his biggest baddest foe. he was supposed to be 150 meters tall (this info is on the godzilla wiki by the way). 

good source to use on Bagan. And thats my point exacly. Bagan is a powerful beast that i think needs to out  there by Legendary Pictures. I mean it wuld surprise Toho and hell probably make them happy to see that Bagan is getting an awesome film treatment. I think that Bagan needs to be the enemy that Godzilla needs to fight to end the Legendary Saga. I would love it. To see an all new enemy never seen before. To see Godzilla give a final attack on Bagan, i would jump up and down, out of my seat  for that! Thats why i think Bagamnn needs a film treatment. Because How strong it is. The King of Monstera going up against an all powerful enemy more powerful than Ghidorah by 4 times the power! Bagan needs a film treatment.

agreed

I hope Bagan is never in any Godzila movie ever, ever, ever. I never want to see, hear or think about Bagan ever again.

You want Bagan? Watch Godzilla vs. Destroyah. Design/power-wise, it's practically the same monster.

I agree with GMAN2887. Destroyah is practically the same monster and is much more badass in design and powers. Bring THAT guy to a Legendary movie, not Bagan.

Destroyah is more Badass then Bagon and Destroyah looks more cooler then Bagon

I think you guys are wrong. So you're saying you would rather see the same monsters over and over and over again in Godzilla movies? And tell me exacy how Destoroyah and Bagan are the same creature? They look nothing a like, and there powers are different. So i don't the 2 can be the same monsters. It's rediculious to say that they are the same when they arent. Destoroyah is cool yes, but i don't want to see the same repetative thing over again. Thats another reason why i think bagan needs to be in a film.

I have seen Godzilla vs Destoroyah and yea i like it but i thought it could have been a better movie. Destoroyah wasn't as powerful as i though and bagan and Destoroyah do NOT have the same powers. in the game Super Godzilla, Bagan is so powerful that Godzillas had to change into a more powerful Godzilla. The difference between Super Godzilla and Burning Godzilla is that, Burning Godzilla had no choice to die, and Super Godzilla did. Super Godzilla also had had very high attack power beams and also more armored skin to protect it from major blasts. Burning Godzilla didnt. The thing is Bagan and Destoroyah, Burning Godzilla, and Super Godzilla are 2 different monsters.

I think It's time for a change for once and give another monster a chance. Bagan is also the biggest, strongest and heaviest giant monster there is. So i want to see the 2 giants battle it out in a Legendary film.

PRIMALTRANSITION@ dude i think you dont get it. some fans dont even no Bagon I looked at the picture of Bagon and he looks like he could kill Godzilla if Bagon is lucky enough and also he,s not a classic Godzilla Monster He,s Just a Super monster from the older Godzilla games and Also Legendary are going too make squeals of The classica movies like Mothra Destroyah and MechaGodzilla or Gigan so I dont think Legendary is going too put Bagon In the New movies for the New series of Godzilla.

I think you guys are wrong. So you're saying you would rather see the same monsters over and over and over again in Godzilla movies? And tell me exacy how Destoroyah and Bagan are the same creature? They look nothing a like, and there powers are different. So i don't the 2 can be the same monsters. It's rediculious to say that they are the same when they arent. Destoroyah is cool yes, but i don't want to see the same repetative thing over again. Thats another reason why i think bagan needs to be in a film.

You said yourself Toho considered Bagan for Godzilla vs. Destroyah, but created Destroyah instead. So wouldn't it make sense that Destroyah is equally as powerful from a creative standpoint? Plus, before all the rabid fanart of a purple and gray Bagan started crawling from the woodwork Bagan, in the video game, was a redish-brown creature, who was overdesigned, bulky, spikey, had three massive claws for a hand and a huge horn pertruding from its head-- just like Destroyah. Destroyah was clearly designed off of the same template as Bagan.

And yes. I would rather see King Ghidorah in three movies in a row if it meant Bagan never saw the light of day.

I have seen Godzilla vs Destoroyah and yea i like it but i thought it could have been a better movie. Destoroyah wasn't as powerful as i though and bagan and Destoroyah do NOT have the same powers. in the game Super Godzilla, Bagan is so powerful that Godzillas had to change into a more powerful Godzilla. The difference between Super Godzilla and Burning Godzilla is that, Burning Godzilla had no choice to die, and Super Godzilla did. Super Godzilla also had had very high attack power beams and also more armored skin to protect it from major blasts. Burning Godzilla didnt. The thing is Bagan and Destoroyah, Burning Godzilla, and Super Godzilla are 2 different monsters.

So, wait. The only reason Bagan should be in a movie is because you think he's powerful? This is bad fanfiction logic. If Bagan was worth putting into a storyline he would've been in a movie by now. As it stands he's not and probably never will be. Bagan has been in scrapped Toho Godzilla scripts since the 1970s. If he hasn't been in a movie by now it means Toho doesn't think he's a good enough creation to be in one.

I also don't care to see "Super Godzilla". If you want to see Super Godzilla go watch SpaceGodzilla. That's about as close as you're going to get.

I think It's time for a change for once and give another monster a chance. Bagan is also the biggest, strongest and heaviest giant monster there is. So i want to see the 2 giants battle it out in a Legendary film.

They are giving other monsters a chance. They're called the Mutos and they're even more original than Bagan. But who says Bagan is the biggest and strongest? If Bagan is 150 meters tall he only ties with Heisei King Ghidorah. And who says he's stronger than Kaizer Ghidorah? Or Destroyah? Or Burning Godzilla? Or Kaiser Godzilla? Hell, what if Showa Godzilla is stronger than all of them? You can't prove Bagan is stronger than them one way or another and you certainly won't convince me of that. He was only a video game character. He was lucky to be that much.

The fact is there are monsters far more popular that Legendary would be more tempted to use. And I'd rather see Legendary's take on all of these monsters before any ittiration of Bagan. Ever.

he can always come into a destroy all monsters movie, that movie will feature a gang of huge monsters that the fans will be excited to see in other godzilla movies instead of not knowing who the monster is,, destroy all monsters can feature a bunch of creatures we never have seen before... nuff said realease a trailer already 

My point is to get this monster more known. Honesly, i don't care what Toho did because apperantly they never took the time to actualy MAKE a background image for the monster. It's like you just can't become famous, you'll have to work your way up. I understand why you don't want to this monster in a Godzilla film. But if Legendary Pictures actually worked more with this monster and created a background and a better concept on the beast then most definatly i think the monster should be in the film. If Legendary ever works on this monster and actually does something with this creature then i think they would definatly make one hell of an enemy. And yea there is not much known about Bagan but thats when Legendary could step in and make this monster from nothing but a video game charator to a super-beast thaat could destroy the world if Godzilla doesn't brawl with it and kill the monster. I am sick and tired of seeing the sames names over and over and over. Ghidorah, Mothra, Orga, Rodan ect Even Destroroyah. The fact is that these monsters did there thing and had there chance. If Toho wanted Destroyah back in the movies then it would have been in the Millenium films...But it's not.  I think it's time to see something that we have never seen before. I want to see this monster come to life due to the fact that since it doesn't have a background for a film officially, then it would be a great idea to use. I still think Legendary Pictures could do alot more with this monster than a monster that has already been used in the past and in multiple games. Bagan is like the monster that has never been challenged or seen in theaters. Would you not be a fan of a Legendary Picture Godzilla movie if it featured an unused monster?

1) You want new monsters? You'll be glad to hear there are going to be brand new ones in Godzilla 2014.

2) Bagan (in my opinion) is a crap monster. His design is too Power Rangers, meaning that it looks horrible. The guy looks like he's ready to give some crappy monologue in a high-pitched voice. And he brings nothing new to the table, there's a reason Toho hasn't put him in any movies.

3) Super Godzilla is a videogame, remember that. Meaning the idea of a "Super Godzilla" doesn't exist in the movies or even the comics. And him being the end boss proves nothing about his power, it just means they ran out of good ideas for a final boss so they were like "screw it" and finally used Bagan in something.

4) Destroyah IS better designed and practically DOES have the same shtick going for him. If it was a fan vote to have either Bagan or Destroyah in Legendary's movie franchise, garuntee it would be Destroyah. If it was Bagan, I'd lose like 90% of respect for Godzilla fans.

Bagan is a cool Easter egg for Godzilla movie history, that's it. But he should never get his own movie, nor should go anywhere near this new franchise. Thought I give credit to Matt Frank, he makes him look badass (but that's unfair since Matt Frank's art makes everything badass).

Bagon is just a Monster from a Game Why do you have too take it serieslly Bagon is not going too be in the Movie so At least there going too make new monsters for the new series you should be happy about that Primal Legendary is Never going too put Bagon in a movie and also destroyah looks way more cooler and more scaryer then bagon. Bagon is just a horned monster with super powers And also Godzilla could take out Bagon with his Red atomic breath Or his rage mode so yea Bagon is stuiped. destroyah is awesome

Bagan can be made into a better monster if creators are willing to make it into something and willing to make it something compatible for a movie. You can loose my respect if you want but the fact that this monster has never been used doesn't make it a horrible creation. Look at the that monster from Godzilla's Revenge! Looks worse than Bagan. I know alot of people look down on the monster but given the right treatment then the monster would be a good powerful beast.

Sure Bagan is from a video game but sure are all of the other monsters, Biollante, ghidorah, and others. People just have to give it a chance and let somebody who knows what they are doing make the monster into what it needs to be. Toho is Toho, and well Legendary is legendary, And since Legendary has revised Godzilla, i think they can do the same for an enemy that has never been used.

I think people are just scared of something new and the fact that the idea of this monster has ben scrapped in the past.

And I think Destroyah is done for, I do not want to see the same monsters over and over and over again, i want to see something that hasn't been used before. And thats why i think Bagan is a choice of mine. Just because Bagan may not be a new new new monster doesn't mean it cant be redone and made into something spectacular.

People are hardly scared of a new creation. That's why everyone in the Godzilla fandom are excited to see the Mutos. Bagan, however, is not new nor does it stand for anything we haven't seen before. In a sense, Bagan represents everything that was wrong with the Heisei monsters: Overdesigned, overly large, overly powered monsters with lots and lots of laser beams. If going forward is part of the argument then Bagan needs to be left behind as a whole. We have enough large, over-powered, laser spewing behmoths like him. (SpaceGodzilla, Destroyah, Heisei MechaGodzilla)

Now I agree that any monster can be written to be interesting and Bagan is no exception. (That said, King Ghidorah, Mothra and Rodan could be re-written to be more interesting as well.) But with Bagan he would need a bordline unrecognizable redesign, a brand new origin and something to tone down is over-the-top powers. We might as well just make up a whole new monster at that point.

The thing is Bagan has a cult following that has proved to be the most annoying of the Godzilla fandom. They're always claiming Bagan is the strongest or a movie should be made out of him and I've yet to understand why? Or at least be given a decent reason. "He's powerful." isn't enough. His design is too much for the tokusatsu genre and yet, in another way, extremely generic. He's just a boring, typical fanfiction-esque creation that was slopped up to be a final boss in a video game. Nothing more. Like the monsters you listed, Bagan had his time, it was in a video game and it's over.

Regardless, I'm fairly positive it will be a moot point. I don't see Legendary and Edwards making much more than two sequels if the new movie is a success and if Toho monsters are used Legendary will likely not even consider Bagan. There are too many better known and more interesting monsters to choose from-- Thank God...

It,s not about making powerful monsters just too beat Godzilla the squeal is about the return of Godzilla and Edwards wants too make squeals of the classic monsters we want too gigan in another movie again or king ghirdorah Not a game monster that has super powers and so strong thats not the point of the new series the point is that Edwards wants too start a new series so that the Fans would be happy. and i tell you Bagon is never going too be in a movie. we want too see the classic monsters again including destroyah. 

Wow, guys lighten up... you should all be ashamed to call yourselves Godzilla fans!  I read through all of the bickering, arguing, and complaining and not one of you "fanboys"know the origin of Bagan! Some of you even said he had no origin! Pathetic! In the game it was explained that he was created by fusing cells from Godzilla himself and the legendary King Ghidorah.  The, imho, is a badass origin.  And he is Godzilla's greatest enemy.  No, i do not want to ever see Super Godzilla hit the screen... the concept is cheesy.  I am definitely in favor of Bagan getting a theatrical appearance!

Well i dont think Bagon should be in a Godzilla movie

1 HE,S NOT A CLASSIC GODZILLA MONSTER!

2 he,s just a monster from a game

3 Destroyah looks way more better then Bagon why will Destroyah,s horn is more better and Has a great roar

4 You are taking Bagon too seriuslly and also Bagon will never be in a Godzilla movie becuase Edwards wants new monsters and also make The Classic Godzilla and he wants the Godzilla fans too enjoy them

and 5 Bagon does not have a origin 

and also he,s not going too become Godzilla,s Most toughest enemy

and also im A true G fan 

it doesn,t matter if Bagon is not going too be in the New Godzilla movies the point is Godzilla is back he,s going too start a new series of movies he,s going too fight new and his older enemy,s so you guys should be happy about the squeal not be mad about this monster from a game being in the new movies.

and Ken fuck off we are true Godzilla fans im a true Godzilla fan and also i think you still want too see the trailer well ken how about you calm down and wait for a trailer and also Bagon is not going too be in the new movies for the Godzilla series you dont derserve too call your self a G FAN!

@KENG2K Lol I don't care about his origin story because I don't like him-like at all. Disliking one monster among an entire library of Godzilla monsters makes someone a shameful Godzilla fan? Are you kidding me? The one who goes and labels people as non-fans like you are the ones that should be ashamed. Gabara is the most shitty Godzilla monster ever, but cuz I choose not to research everything about him I don't deserve the title Godzilla fan? Beautiful logic. That's like calling someone a bad Star Wars fan for not knowing every pointless character in the background scenes, it's stupid.

See? There it is again. Someone else calling Bagan, "Godzilla's greatest enemy." Why? Because he was the final boss in a video game? Because he's big, ugly and has lots of lasers? He's never been in a Godzilla movie so how is he possibly Godzilla's greatest enemy?

Godzilla's taken on King Ghidorah, Mothra and Mecha-Godzilla so often that perhaps one of them is his "greatest enemy", but Bagan? That makes no sense. He's one of Godzilla's most forgettable enemies.

And I'm not sure who you're pointing out that claimed Bagan had no origin. Yes he has an origin and yes I knew of it. Making claims about people that aren't true is quite unwise even on forums. Regardless, while the concept is kind of cool it lacks any originality. The Godzilla series has already dealt with combining Godzilla cells with other lifeforms in Godzilla vs. Biollante. It was nailed pretty thoroughly in the movie, so what? We're going to do it again now? Furthermore, the entire idea just wouldn't work in the more grounded universe that Gareth Edwards is going for. It just sounds too far out there for the Legendary Godzilla movies-- hence why his origin would have be altered.

I agree with Gman Bagon is not going too be in the new movies He,s not Bagon is not going too be Godzilla,s uiltmate enemy 

For a while I thought that Bagan would be perfect for the movie because he blends the past of Godzilla while not getting bogged down in rules, history, and other things that were decided long before the director was born.  You could basically do anything with Bagan because.. he's never been used.  He's just a name.  The only thing that has remained consistent through his iterations (in scripts and games) is his size and having a horn.

I made the image below to try and illustrate how large this new Godzilla could be.  Dwarfing Bagan (or Biollante, KG, or Destoroyah) would really put this Godzilla in a league of his own.

You know that Bagan was first created for the Return of Godzilla/Godzilla 1985 script? He didn't look anything like the fan art that's been posted here. In The Return of Godzilla he was a actually three monsters that combined into one. He looked goofy as hell, but he was at least more interesting than the one in Super Godzilla:

Yup, that's the original Bagan. He was scrapped for The Return of Godzilla, a solo Mothra movie that was going be called Mothra vs. Bagan and finally Godzilla vs. Destroyah. Three chances. All failed.

A Gman no fence but i really dont like your Bagon picture 

Just to clear up any misunderstanding, I did not draw this picture. This is Toho's concept art for the original design for Bagan in the 1980s. (Although I do beleive a fan site colored it.) Can't say I love it either, but it's still more interesting than the later design.

Eh, I guess I'd rather see Bagan make an appearance than Ghidorah, Mothra, MechaG, or either Kumonga or Kamacuras.

But besides those 5 he's pretty low on my list of monsters I'd like to see incorperated into a Legendary movie

I'm very surprised on the original concept of Bagan honestly, yea it looks very weir and strange, but i still think either concept can be used. Bagan needs a chance and deserves a chance in a Godzilla film. Regardless of how many people don't like the monster. And if it is in a movie, hell that means more people will go watch to see Bagans butt get kicked! But i highly doubt that will just happen. People neve give anything new or unused a chance anymore. It's rediculous..and sad