Godzilla Movie

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Durp004

MemberBaragonOct-22-2013 8:28 PM
I'm sure all of us want this movie to do very well to secure the chance of a sequel but looking at the other movies coming out in the same month I'm wondering how you feel it will do at the box office. With a spiderman sequel, and another X men movie( I think it's become well known that comic book movies are box office gold currently for the most part) coming out before and after this movie with Disney's Maleficent and a Wizard of Oz movie also coming out the same month how do you feel it will do? Now I'm not saying those movies will be better or worse than Godzilla but most are sequels or prequels to well known popular ideas or characters. I'm slightly worried we'll have another Pacific Rim situation where despite being the better movie it will lose out to movies of much lower caliber*cough* Grown ups 2 *cough* simply because of name association.
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TheGMan123

MemberTitanosaurusOct-22-2013 9:13 PM
Well,we G-fans just have to hope and support this movie as much as we can! It won't be easy,but we have to show the world why the movie industry has Godzilla to thank for helping make it a big thing!

Chris

AdminSpaceGodzillaOct-22-2013 11:43 PM
I dunno, even as a kid, Godzilla ALWAYS took precedence over any Super Heroes, no matter which it was. With the tone Edwards and company are going for with [b]Godzilla 2014[/b], it will tailor to both younger audiences as well as older ones. Yes, Godzilla will have some stiff competition, but I think the public will very soon grow tired of all these super-hero movies being jammed down our throats. So, my money is on Godzilla. Remember too, Godzilla's opening in Japan - will be HUGE. Will probably blow Spider-Man 2 and the next X-Men film clean out of the water.
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G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaOct-23-2013 12:01 AM
I didn't even know about the Disney movie and the Oz movie. The real threats are X-Men and Spider-Man, but it's not like either franchise have been doing what it used to do. [i]The Amazing Spider-Man[/i] sold less tickets than the previous three films. It made $70 million less domestically than the weakest performing Spider-Man movie, [i]Spider-Man 3[/i]. X-Men is somewhat in the same boat. [i]X-Men: First Class[/i] was the fifth weakest selling X-Men movie, both domestically and worldwide. Making over $20 less than [i]X-Men Origins: Wolverine[/i] (which was only a solo X-Men outing) and over $10 million less than the first [i]X-Men[/i] which was released over 13 years ago. Tickets cost less then. Meanwhile, [i]The Wolverine[/i] made $15 million less than [i]First Class[/i], which is not what Fox was hoping for considering [i]X-Men Origins: Wolverine[/i] was such a massive hit. The difference is that [i]X-Men: Days of Future Past[/i] is much bigger movie than the prior two X-Men movies. There's a chance getting the original cast together with the [i]First Class[/i] cast will generate more buzz. But, like [i]Godzilla[/i], [i]Days of Future Past[/i] hasn't been advertised either. Very few people know it's a movie crossing over two casts and some don't even know it's coming out. (Like [i]Godzilla[/i]. That will change for both movies in the coming months.) Potentially, I think [i]X-Men Days of Future Past[/i] is the biggest threat. [i]The Amazing Spider-Man 2[/i] is as well, but I'm not as afraid of it as X-Men. The fact is the new Spider-Man had a very lukewarm reception and there was even talk of scrapping the sequel because it performed so much weaker than its predecessors. I see it doing about the same amount of business the last one did. One thing that [i]Godzilla[/i], [i]X-Men[/i] and [i]Spider-Man[/i] all have going for each other is the fact that they're some of the first big, blockbuster movies of the season. One of the reasons that [i]Pacific Rim[/i], [i]The Wolverine[/i] and [i]Riddick[/i] underperformed is because[i] Iron Man 3[/i], [i]Man of Steel[/i] and [i]Star Trek into Darkness[/i] came first. And even [i]Star Trek[/i] underperformed, because [i]Iron Man 3[/i] made a billion dollars so quickly. There's only so much money to go around and for the most part, this year at least, the early summer movies cannibalized the others. Especially [i]Iron Man 3[/i]... I'm happy [i]Godzilla[/i] is coming out a lot earlier than [i]Pacific Rim[/i] did.
"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaOct-23-2013 12:13 AM
@Chris One thing I want to add, unfortunately, is Japan may not give [i]Godzilla[/i] a massive opening. One of the reasons Toho isn't making Godzilla movies anymore (maybe [i]the[/i] reason) is because there isn't a demand for giant monster movies anymore. The daikaiju genre is pretty much on life-support with Ultraman hanging on by a thread. Kamen Rider and Super Sentai (Power Rangers) are currently the most successful outlets in the genre. Daikaiju and the art of tokusatsu filmmaking is dieing and audiences don't have a desire to see it done in their country or others. For example, [i]Pacific Rim[/i] tanked hard in Japan. Again this could've been because of the poor advertising, but then again Japan's interest in giant monster movies have been on a decline since [i]Godzilla 2000[/i] was released in 1999: [i]Godzilla x Megaguirus[/i], [i]Gamera the Brave[/i] and [i]Godzilla Final Wars[/i] flopped badly at the Japanese box office. Meanwhile, [i]Godzilla 2000[/i] and [i]Godzilla: Tokyo SOS[/i] performed below Toho's expectations. I think the genre was rammed down the audience's throats through too many outlets for too many years. Although, I think China is a strong outlet. They seem to dig these giants taking on each other seeing as [i]Transformers: Dark of the Moon[/i] and [i]Pacific Rim[/i] did very well at the Chinese box office. But I hope I'm wrong. I'd like Godzilla to be a powerhouse in his home country again.
"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Durp004

MemberBaragonOct-23-2013 12:22 AM
Well to be fair being the lowest grossing spiderman isn't exactly a bad thing as the 3 prior movies did amazing at the box office, even breaking records. That and while that was a reboot this is a sequel and after good reviews from both fans and critics of the first movie I think it will do much better. That and the dark knight isn't coming out later in the month of its release. The wizard of oz hasn't had any real publicity yet, but from what I understand it is animated and unfortunately for Godzilla those are the other types of movies that are doing very well right now. It's also attached to the OZ name which will probably bring a decent crowd if only for that. I'm not sure about the disney movie as I wasn't interested enough in it to look it up besides the fact it was another movie coming out in the same month. From what I see though a lot of big names are being released in May, and unfortunately most have bigger names than Godzilla. We all know that name matters more than content unfortunately for a lot of people so even if it does okay those are all still titles that will take away potential profit that could have been made had it been released on another date.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaOct-23-2013 1:28 AM
I think you might be overselling the "critical acclaim" for [i]The Amazing Spider-Man[/i] a little. Although it was reviewed okay, there are a lot of audiences that gave it the cold shoulder. Plus looking at boxoffice turn-outs isn't enough. Tickets were cheaper when the first few [i]Spider-Man[/i] movies came out. Did you know if you adjust for inflation, [i]The Amazing Spider-Man[/i] would've made around $120 million less than [i]Spider-Man 3[/i]? That's a massive audience drop and a lack of interest from potential movie goers which is why Sony was on the fence about a sequel. This doesn't mean [i]The Amazing Spider-Man 2[/i] will do poorly, I just don't think it will do much better than the last one-- which has been the trend for that franchise since the first movie in 2002. Now it's true it won't have to contend with [i]The Dark Knight Rises[/i] or [i]The Avengers[/i] next year, but then again neither will [i]Godzilla[/i]. As for the Oz movie, I'm not convinced. The last Oz movie (which was live action) didn't make its budget back domestically. Sure it did overseas, but it wasn't exactly a box office smash. I'm not sure if being animated will help matters either. More and more animated movies are tanking these days: [i]Turbo[/i], [i]Mars Needs Moms[/i], [i]Astroboy[/i] and [i]Rise of the Guardians[/i] highlight some of the worst boxoffice bombs in recent history. It seems like if an animated movie is going to be successful it needs to be a Pixar flick, an established Dreamworks Animation property or really lucky... Interesting side note on pending boxoffice guesses, SuperHeroHype.com recently ran a poll for what the most anticipated movies of 2014 were. Remember, this is website that primarily gets traffic from [u][b]fans of comic book superhero movies.[/b][/u] X-Men: Days of Future Past 35.1% Captain America: The Winter Soldier 18.4% Guardians of the Galaxy 14.8% The Amazing Spider-Man 9.2% Godzilla 6.2% The Hobbit: There and Back Again 4.2% Interstellar 3.5% Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3% RoboCop 2.4% Transformers: Age of Extinction 2.2% 300: Rise of an Empire 1% Big Hero 0.2% Now because this is a website mostly visited by fans of DC and Marvel movies, it's natural that all the superhero movies would be at the top of the list. But the interesting part is that [i]Godzilla[/i] is the [u]top rated non-superhero movie[/u] on the poll. It even beat out [i]The Hobbit[/i] and [i]Transformers[/i]. Not bad on a site like that.
"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

JGAR

MemberMothra LarvaeOct-24-2013 6:36 AM
[i]Godzilla[/i] might be the [i]Star Trek Into Darkness[/i] of 2014 in terms of box office, except its on a much worse situation. Whereas [i]Star Trek Into Darkness[/i] was sandwiched between[i] Iron Man 3[/i] on one side and [i]Fast & Furious 6[/i] and [i]Epic[/i] (also [i]The Hangover 3[/i]) on the other, this film has 2 compete against and is sandwiched between 2 Superhero films. I'm sorry, but this is the truth: Comic Book Movies are THE Genre nowadays and the MAIN attractions, and its worse when you have the mega film that is [i]X-Men: Days Of The Future Past[/i] coming the week after this film. This is why Warner should swap this film for [i]Edge Of Tomorrow[/i], leave this film to the start of June in June 6.

Samzilla 14

MemberMothra LarvaeOct-24-2013 7:34 AM
"Comic Book Movies are THE Genre nowadays" Not really when you consider the last few X-men films didn't meat up to box office standards as well as the last Spiderman film, as someone pointed out earlier. I think you mean the Marvel Avengers phase 2 films (or anything involving Batman or Superman) are the genre nowadays and none of them are coming out during May.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaOct-24-2013 12:11 PM
He's right, the comic book superhero genre is the boxoffice gold these days. But history likes to repeat itself and I see [i]The Amazing Spider-Man 2[/i] emulating what the last four have done: Bring in the cash, but with lower attendance. I think [i]X-Men: Days of Future Past[/i] has potential to do a lot better than the last two, but even Fox has to understand it's a risk. The last two X-Men films didn't dominate the box office. Like [i]The Amazing Spider-Man 2[/i], Fox was hesitant to go forward with a sequel to [i]First Class[/i]. Furthermore, James McAvoy recently said that [i]X-Men: Days of Future Past[/i] was perhaps the second most expensive movie Fox ever made. (First would be [i]Avatar[/i].) With that kind of money on the line, and the popularity of X-Men waning, it actually has as much to live up to, if not more, than [i]Godzilla[/i]. Even if [i]Godzilla[/i] did about as well as [i]Star Trek into Darkness[/i], that's still a domestic take of $120 million more than [i]Pacific Rim[/i] and almost half a billion worldwide. I'd be celebrating if it did that.
"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Samzilla 14

MemberMothra LarvaeOct-24-2013 2:27 PM
Well if Godzilla 2014 isn't going to sweep the box office then better it lose to potentially good films with established franchises then some piece of crap like Grown Ups 2. Also, what exactly were the bugdet costs for X-men and Spiderman compared to Godzilla's 160 million budget?

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaOct-24-2013 6:45 PM
The budget for [i]Godzilla[/i], [i]X-Men Days of Future Past[/i] and [i]The Amazing Spider-Man 2[/i] haven't officially been released. James MacAvoy said [i]X-Men[/i] is the second most expensive movie Fox has ever produced. The first is [i]Avatar[/i] which had a budget of $450 million, including promotional expenses. I doubt [i]X-Men[/i]'s is close to that, but if what McAvoy is saying is true then it's probably around the $300 million mark. The only reports for [i]The Amazing Spider-Man 2[/i]'s budget are two or three sources claiming it has a budget of "over $100 million". That could mean anything, but it sounds like Sony made the budget smaller than the last one. Hard to tell. As for [i]Godzilla[/i], I've heard rumors of anywhere between $160-$190 million. But there's also a rumor going on that Edwards turned down a good chunk of the production budget and made [i]Godzilla[/i] for $90 million. (Which wouldn't be too surprising considering he pulled off [i]Monsters[/i] with a budget of only half a million.) The reality is these are all guesses by both myself and media outlets piled with rumors started by fans of all three franchises. We won't know the final budgets until around the time these movies come out.
"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaOct-24-2013 6:58 PM
Something as a side note that I want to point out: Both [i]The Amazing Spider-Man[/i] and [i]The Wolverine[/i] made significantly less money than their predecessors even [b]with[/b] expensive 3D ticket prices... Yeesh...
"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Durp004

MemberBaragonOct-25-2013 3:21 AM
Yes but even being the lowest grossing spiderman is was still the 7th highest grossing film of 2012, and probably managed to stay #1 at the box office for a few weeks till dark knight rises was released, and this is what is a worrying fact. If they can stay at the top for 2 weeks then Godzilla loses any chance, as another movie comes out right behind it, blocking it again from possibly reaching that #1 spot. Even if it does take the number 1 spot it will still most likely lose it within a week. Coming out between 2 superhero movies is just all around a bad idea on the planning front if this. This month is more packed with potential hits than any month before it, If you include Godzilla that's 5 potential blockbusters in a span of around 4 weeks with godzilla right in the middle, which is arguably the worst spot to be.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaOct-25-2013 3:58 AM
[i]The Amazing Spider-Man[/i] was only #1 at the box office for 1 week. It dropped to #2 the second week with an attendance drop of 43% and [i]The Dark Knight Rises[/i] had yet to come out. And because it was the seventh highest grossing movie of the year actually says less about the industry as a whole than it does in favor of the film. (For example, if [i]The Amazing Spider-Man[/i] only made one dollar, and was still somehow the seventh best selling movie of the year, is that still a success? Nope. You have to factor in budget and attendance.) I'm not sure where this idea that most movies stay #1 for two weeks or more came from. It's a rare feat these days that's only accomplished by a select few. [i]The Avengers[/i], [i]The Dark Knight Rises[/i] and [i]Iron Man 3[/i] did it, sure, but they're exceptions not the norm. Rival studios expected this which is why [i]Star Trek into Darkness[/i] was released two weeks after [i]Iron Man 3[/i] and not one. Clearly studios aren't too afraid of [i]The Amazing Spider-Man 2[/i] at the moment. If [i]Godzilla[/i] is #1 at the box office for one week that would be a massive success and it's all the movie really needs. #1 for two weeks is a pipe dream for most studios. I also think you overestimate the "potential hits." The Oz movie and the Disney movie are nowhere on the hype radar for most media outlets and probably will have very little press in comparison to [i]Godzilla[/i], [i]X-Men[/i] and [i]Spider-Man[/i]. They sound more like calendar fillers than potential box office "hits".
"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

BCrockett94

MemberMothra LarvaeOct-25-2013 12:46 PM
It might not do as well as everything else on opening weekend, but I feel it's going to do good overall, kind of like Avatar, but probably not as much money (2.7 billion dollars is a pretty tough to beat number), I'd be willing to bet that Godzilla gets at least 400 million opening day, warranting a sequel (as it'd more than double the budget of 150 million dollars), but that's just a prediction. I don't think we're gonna see Godzilla annihilate the box office competition, but we'll get a sequel for sure... Even if the movie is gonna be like Pacific Rim. I don't expect Kaiju films to be the new, big thing in Hollywood until people get bored of Superhero films.

Durp004

MemberBaragonOct-25-2013 1:56 PM
I don't really feel Godzilla's hype outweighs that of Maleficent, or the OZ movie. Sure it's big here, but a lot of these fans have been following the movie since it was Godzilla 3d to the MAX. To the average person I doubt they know much about the movie if anything at all. The only real people that know are G fans, and comic con attendants. There's been nothing revealed to the public and the teaser that was leaked was taken away in the span of a few days so most people still haven't seen it unless actively looking. In hype alone the only movie that has a teaser out so far is spiderman so they all are on pretty even ground after that.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaOct-25-2013 4:32 PM
On what basis do you believe [i]Maleficent[/i] and [i]Oz[/i] may equal or outweigh Godzilla's hype then? Sure not very many people know about it, but you could say the same for the prior mentioned movies. I'd argue that, at present, the buzz surrounding Godzilla is still much larger than those two combined. Take a look: [url=http://www.zennie62blog.com/2013/10/10/godzilla-2014-trailer-leak-pushes-godzilla-2014-search-to-highest-levels-to-date-45525/]This Site[/url] shows how the leaked trailer projected Google search interest in Godzilla. If you do the same research for the Oz flick or [i]Maleficent[/i], they're not even close to the spike Godzilla had earlier this month. Meanwhile if you type in "Maleficent" into the [b]Google News[/b] you'll roughly 3 thousand hits. If you type in "Godzilla 2014," over 5 thousand hits. But most people won't be typing that, they'd simply search "Godzilla" in which you get [u]10 thousand hits[/u]. Keep in mind these aren't webpages, their news outlets covering the films. I agree that they're all on vaguely even ground at the moment, but long term that may not be the case. I've already explained my case for [i]Oz[/i] and [i]Maleficent[/i] on various levels and while I concede that [i]Spider-Man[/i] and [i]X-Men[/i] may be a so-called "threat" the idea that they'll completely topple [i]Godzilla[/i] (especially Spider-Man) is currently unfounded.
"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."
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