Major Noob
MemberOvomorphJul-07-2013 10:39 AMSome have suggested they wanted to make LV223 a paradise in anticipation of our eventual arrival. The feeling I get is that it's just their default protocol to render outposts habitable. But when you think about it, if that was an isolated lab for Goo experiments, then wouldn't it be best to to keep it a vacuum?
Maybe somewhere else there is an actual lab, where the real horrors are housed. Maybe LV426?
meshuggah
MemberOvomorphJul-07-2013 10:56 AM^ I think LV-223 is where the 'bad' engineers, fallen angels if you will, were banished. I think that is what that mural represents; the musculature bound engineer like we see at the beginning casting down a suited engineer in his flight suit. These banished engineers got busy cooking up unimaginable bioweapons to corrupt the Gods' favoured creation; Man, the plan goes to hell however as they fall victim to their creations. It's baffling to me how many simple solutions you can make to the[i] loose ends[/i] of this film, ultimately the sequel ought to tie everything up but consider what a tall order that will be? Hopefully they go about tying the major elements just [i]enough[/i] but not too explicitly, i.e. imply the answers enough to the point where it is obvious even to the most non discerning denizen in the cinema but nothing overt; some air of mystery will have to be maintained albeit obviously not to the extent of Part 1, we don't have to have the answers beat us on our heads.
shambs
MemberOvomorphJul-07-2013 8:38 PMIf they wanted to make LV-223 a paradise, that could explain in part the star maps in ancient civilizations.
Anunnaki50
MemberOvomorphJul-07-2013 11:16 PMThe terra-forming are probably just for habitation not necessarily for life to begin. In the movie I'm not so sure they were terra-forming because thats what Holloway was saying. I think they were just feeding their facilty with oxygen to breath in and to do laboratory experiments. You notice how the outside was completely toxic but not the pyramid....I think thats why maybe Ridley gave another mystery but its a minor one. Its like when we humans will colonize other worlds but we're gonna try to make our home better than the outside. Or it could be that they intended to do so but maybe realized that it just wasnt suitable and changed their minds.
The Anunnaki were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, mighty men of high reno
Anunnaki50
MemberOvomorphJul-07-2013 11:16 PMThe terra-forming are probably just for habitation not necessarily for life to begin. In the movie I'm not so sure they were terra-forming because thats what Holloway was saying. I think they were just feeding their facilty with oxygen to breath in and to do laboratory experiments. You notice how the outside was completely toxic but not the pyramid....I think thats why maybe Ridley gave another mystery but its a minor one. Its like when we humans will colonize other worlds but we're gonna try to make our home better than the outside. Or it could be that they intended to do so but maybe realized that it just wasnt suitable and changed their minds.
The Anunnaki were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, mighty men of high reno
BigDave
MemberDeaconJul-08-2013 9:20 AMWell so little is known about the Engineers....
Indeed only the inside of the Pyramid and the Juggernauts had a habitable environment that mankind could survive in.
Outside it was hostile to Humans, we would not survive for long.
But so then why is it habitable for us?
Maybe the Engineers need same kind of atmospheric conditions, but the Last Engineer did manage to survive out side. Now the movie leaves debate to that, and that maybe they can just tolerate the LV 223 Atmosphere for greater lengths but cant survive all day in it.
Also we have to ask, why the Space Jockey suits if the Air in the Temple and their Ships is habitable to Humans and Engineers......
We also have the Invitation.. or trap, and then why leave that Head Statue.....?
I am a fan of this theory.....
These Engineers are Genetic Gardeners and our creation is one of the many Fruit that there, Green house or Allotment grows.....
The Engineers are our Care Takers, Gardners and they create life, and watch over it.
Maybe LV 223 was a outpost from which a group of Engineers can Watch Over us, a place that is not to far away from them but then not too close.
Maybe the Head Statue was a place to show us when we are deemed good enough to get there, to be shown who our creators are.
Then again it could be a trap we cant be sure.....
But i think LV 223 was a Watchers Outpost where some of these Engineers where placed to look over us..... But something happened...
At some point the Engineers or indeed those placed on LV 223 had got upset of Mankind, and turned a eventual haven and place of Worship to them, into a Test Laboratory and Weapons Facility to create and store something to use on us to wipe us out.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
meshuggah
MemberOvomorphJul-08-2013 2:02 PMThink of the temples as being no different than labs made for biological warfare, the Jockies were in suits because they were just like scientists that wear hazmat suits in otherwise ventilated labs when they work with dangerous bacteria, viruses, etc. No different to when Ford was in an hazmat suit when she woke up an impregnated Shaw in an otherwise ventilated room and ship. Shaw and Holloway are acting under the assumption that they were [i]invited[/i] to come since they are believers, and by extension the others become believers also, a breathable atmosphere suitable for humans is a miracle to them; a very [i]human[/i] leap of faith ensues, thus they treat the breathable air as being [i]for them[/i], when in fact they have just stumbled onto a bio-tech lab. They were wrong, so wrong.
BigDave
MemberDeaconJul-09-2013 4:42 AMWell i have always thought the Space Jockey suits are a Bio Hazard suit to either protect them from what they are working with or more likely to protect what they are working with from CO2 etc that the Engineers would exhale.
Maybe this is what triggers the Goo?
As far as it being a trap, well some things dont add up....
Not only why leave clues for a trap, and wait for us to arrive?
They could produce the Weapon and just send it down to us, as they had planned...
Maybe they needed a Habitable environment for Mankind because at certain points in time they abducted Humans and took them to LV 223 so they could test the Bio Weapon on Mankind and its effects.
Lindeloff did say the notion was that the trend was that the Xeno always had Human DNA... by that i dont think he meant as in a Adult as well that obvious, and the one in Alien 3 had Dog/Bull DNA.
Maybe he implied the way they got to the Egg and Face Huger, and if the Deacon was the Proto Xeno then indeed the Xeno would have Human DNA....
However the Deacon is not what leads to the Eggs in Alien....
So if Human DNA was used to create the original Xeno and the Xeno or Origins of it was created at around or prior to the fall of LV 223 some 2000+ years ago....
Then maybe we cant rule out experimentation on Humans in past...
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
BigDave
MemberDeaconJul-09-2013 5:17 AMJust found this article from the Head Art Designer on Prometheus..
[url=http://www.hollywood.com/news/movies/29948825/prometheus-concept-artist-explains-how-the-movie-fixes-alien?page=all]Your text to link here...[/url]
One interesting point is this...
"The big pyramid mound that you've seen in the trailer. It's almost like a sphinx head, an eroded face. He called it the Pyramid. The compound mound. Some of that is from old Giger drawings from different books. There was development work early on in Alien where they're talking about these pyramid structures, and aliens had engineered man and kind of did it in these big compound pyramids. He toyed with it a long time ago, but he wanted to reintroduce it here."
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So maybe Mankind was experimented on and created on LV 223?
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
meshuggah
MemberOvomorphJul-09-2013 12:49 PMAH! GREAT FIND DAVE!! This reminds me of Giger's original life-cycle, parts of which can be seen in the ceiling mural... Perhaps Shaw aborted the developing facehugger too soon eh? I remember the Trilobite in the amniotic sac looking similar to an egg, it's yet another way of looking at it that's for sure, just like a premature birth...Cool stuff, I can't believe we're still discussing this damn film it's unbelievable haha