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Indy John

MemberOvomorphDec-06-2012 12:44 PM
When Hollway was trying to get back on the ship someone mentioned putting Charlie into the Medpod. Could the Med Pod have been useful in treating the Engineer's head one the mask was removed? In fact could the Medpod have been usefull to Holloway after he was infected but before he went back to the tunnels to rescue Millburn/Fifield?
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zzplural

MemberOvomorphDec-06-2012 12:54 PM
No. The MedPod was designed to treat humans with known (calibrated) conditions, and perform operations when instructed to do so manually. It would have no understanding of tissue transformation (Holloway) or what to do with a 2,000 year old alien head.
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Indy John

MemberOvomorphDec-06-2012 12:59 PM
I can see what you mean. I thought maybe the medpod could quicky analyse the skin or fluids.
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Fleshvessel

MemberOvomorphDec-06-2012 3:39 PM
Very interesting. It was Janek, btw, who mentioned the Med Pod. Why wouldn't he suggest cryo instead?
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Theseus

MemberOvomorphDec-06-2012 10:44 PM
Having been a new encounter with an unknown aggressive life form the med pod would only be able to identify a foreign organism invading Holloway's body systems but no way to identify it exactly or how to safely treat it other than injecting himself with something toxic to kill it. With no knowledge of what the xeno is exactly there would be no treatment for it.

Rubirosa

MemberOvomorphDec-06-2012 10:56 PM
I didn't like Holloway anyways!

Indy John

MemberOvomorphDec-07-2012 4:12 AM
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DenzelTH

MemberOvomorphDec-07-2012 7:08 AM
Alot of people that have seen this movie always say about Holloway being a nob, and also hating David. But i like David, just doing his job, and Holloway just seems fake to me, how can you not care about finding a humanoid, and testing on it =/. But to willingly want to get flame throwered, he must have been in SOME pain.
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Indy John

MemberOvomorphDec-07-2012 7:33 AM
Holloway seemed to be a well grounded(no pun intended) explorer that would be caurious in any field trip. Although he says he wants to meet his makers I would think the adventure himself would be motivation to explore every possibility. So discovering that the they will not meet the Gods this trip he really checks out too early and doesn't fully participate with Shaw when checking out the Engineer's head. He doen't add anything to the next tunnel trip and is the reason they leave early. To me his charactor still needs a few scenes for us to understand what is changing and why? As far as his suicide at the hands of Vickers well he had ecough awareness that his life was not going to end in a good mannser. On a recent watching of the flame scene you can also see how Janek has to be quite forceful to keep Shaw from going to her Charlie. At that point even he knew that Holloway was not going to survive no matter what could be done, Holloway forced the fire scene ,to Vicker's horror,and Janek to save his Shaw. He not only must have been in tremedous pain but saw no solution involving the Prometheus or intervention by the crew.
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Indy John

MemberOvomorphDec-07-2012 2:50 PM
'..But i can't help wondering about the different type of goo.." Maybe there is a basic goo and the differences in the outcome is not based on the type of goo(thought there could be differences) but on the hosts DNA makeup, Fifield becoming very aggressive, even destructive, Holloway sort just mellowed out and the let the goo transform him into a lazy non thinking slug going through a horrible physical transformation. If the Goo infected the Last Engineer he didn't seem to have any physical Goo related changes but he certainly begame not only aggressive but still maintained a sence of purpose while wanting to complete his mission It was mote like Goo reinforced his convictions for now. Sort of like after a few hits you sort of let the real you come out and show others the true inner you.
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DenzelTH

MemberOvomorphDec-07-2012 2:33 PM
He also seemed more of a nice guy once he'd been goo'd lol. He also seemed stronger when he pushes everyone off of him. But i can't help wondering about the different type of goo. Maybe the drop David gave him made him willing to sacrifice himself. The other goo infects Fifield and i think this goo is Xeno Dna. But what i want to know is; When the Urns are leaking, is the goo within the glass ampules leaking too? Or is it still within the glass? So what i think is there is a sacrifice goo that creates life contrary to that planet and whoever uses this goo, there image is replicatent to the life made. The other goo is Xeno dna. And the Engineers tried to change they're cycle of life, to make they're new creations an ultimate species, by mixing the two. They were going to hit Earth for a tester, but it got out on them before then.
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Indy John

MemberOvomorphDec-07-2012 2:41 PM
"..They were going to hit Earth for a tester,.." Now this would be a great movie from Earth's point of view,, I can see the xenos on the loose. Then Weyland Cotp. would step in and try to salvage the situation by creating anti goo.
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Theseus

MemberOvomorphJan-09-2013 2:51 PM
Rubirosa...I didn't like Halloway either...he was incredibly sexist and arrogant. I found it interesting that David, despite being a robot, seemed pretty peaved about Halloway's naivete' and cavalier attitude along with his ignorance. It came through with that little smile in reaction to Holloway's comment"Good thing you can't be disappointed." David had the plan to put this sexist, arrogant pig in his place by putting the goo with the xeno microorganism in his champagne glass and make him a guinea pig. David also seemed to have the agenda (via Weyland's programming) to have this zeno microorganism find its way through Holloway's semen into Shaw's body to see what would happen. David seems to have a sinister side along with his boyish ways. Indy John...Fifield was burned to death by the acid blood of the xeno snake which turned him into a superstrong xeno zombie curiously enough. Holloway was infected by the goo via David and nothing changed about him other than being eaten alive by the xeno microorganism.

Indy John

MemberOvomorphJan-10-2013 5:28 AM
"..David had the plan to put this sexist, arrogant pig in his place .." It kind of funny to see a robot, the epitome of a sexless and emotionless creation, to be reactive to human frailities and want revenge so to speak. It is additionaly funny considering David's comments when questioned by Shaw on what he wanted.
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caenorhabhditis

MemberOvomorphJan-10-2013 5:33 AM
i dont think holloway was all that bad lol but he was ignorant toward david to the point of representing a new 'ism' but i dont get where the sexism idea came from? he was rash and gung-ho and churlish/sulky about not finding live engineers but i think there is an absent parent issue inferred there from his line "dont you wanna know why they abandoned us?"
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Indy John

MemberOvomorphJan-10-2013 5:35 AM
Hmm So Holloway reaction to the goo(though quite different in texture from the dringing goo) was seeing his body being brioken down in a similar fashion to our earlier Sacrificial Engineer. Holloway then sacrificed his life to kill the seeding process while our first Engineer was presumably wanting to create a new life. Their endings were for different purposes but each understanding what needed to be done. Holloway, at this time, was not wanting to pass on any DNA to any living thing as he saw the horror in what happenned to other crew members. He chose Vickers to be his end. Did the Sacrificial Engineer have a choice? His over the waterfall dispersal was very symbolic of spreading of his life to create other life forms.
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caenorhabhditis

MemberOvomorphJan-10-2013 5:48 AM
it is a question (one of giga-oodles) whether sacrificial engineers was being punished? a sacrifice as a sanction? a price for some unknown situation? or wether hed been brought to beleive this was the ultimate step to godhood he certainly looked shocked at the painful cost of it.... going by the interpereted dialogue from the extended deleted scene the elders seemed to know that the end result would be lifeforms like us because they say the dna will be a clue , our "path back" to them.... so it wasnt ust life they aimed to create but specifically sentient 'people' a ' opposed to animals
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