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deftones1986
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 5:37 PMI'm just going to RE-POST this, as I'm afraid that it may get buried in everyones response to the topic by Vickers 8:
[url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/9177]Spaihts suggests "36 hours" was an error after all...[/url]
I apologize ahead of time if this counts as being against the forum policy,, but I do think I make a valid point, and like I said I dont wan't it to just become buried in the other post.
Here was my response:
Just to let you know I haven't read anybody else's post to this topic, but I'm gonna just throw this out there.
Let's say you're Ridley Scott, and you are prepping Fassbender to play the part of the 1st series of android that is to appear in the timeline of the Prometheus/Alien franchise.
So now you're Ridley and you're telling him, the David androids are the FIRST series of androids in this universe I created, (and if you guys recall) Ash comes next and Bishop after and so on...and they all become more advanced IN THAT ORDER...
SO: The David series, although portrayed greatly by Fassbender, are to be replaced in the future by Ash and company, so that tells me, the David androids are far from being the perfected android that Weyland had envisioned.
Now to get to my point!!! Where am I going with this?
You're Ridley and you know you have a terrific actor in Fassbender, so you lay down the ground rules (the Davids are the first series of android)
So now you say "Okay, Micheal (Fassbender), here is your line with Charlize (Vickers) she asks you this this and this, and you reply "this" BUT feel free to improvise at any point.
So here comes Fassbender, saying his line, and (remembering that the Davids are the first series, and therefore must be very flawed, he throws the line out there of 36 hours.
Guess what?
It's a hit with the director and therefore stays in the final cut of the movie.
There is your answer to it "not being in the script, but yes it was supposed to be in the movie."
Pure act of improvisation on the part of Michael Fassbender!
Tah da!!!
Dont believe me? Then check out these movie scenes that weren't in the movies script, but turned out to make them world famous for generations to come...
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTFQBHBeleE]25 Greatest Unscripted Scenes in Films[/url]
And I believe you guys are missing the fact that this being an error has STILL not been confirmed if you read the quote:
“In candor, I didn’t write that line. I presume it’s an error on the page or on the day. Ask Damon.”
And they are also hinting at the point that the Davids are flawed with this quote:
"Robots have been showing off with this trick as long as there have been robots…”
I STILL don't see anywhere where there is PROOF, that JUST BECAUSE the line wasn't scripted, that it was never meant to be in the movie....
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Major Noob
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 6:10 PM I do find it hard to believe that such a thing would go unnoticed, even in such a massive production. There could be any sort of inside significance to that number, I think it's deliberate. Look at Spaihts running from it, though. "Ask Damon". Sad.
David 1
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 6:44 PMhi again deftones1986:
Here is why I believe it is an actual error in the script:
1 - Being so evident as a miscalculation, Vickers would have noticed it.
2 - Being on purpose, there are plenty of little things through out the entire flick that gives you the ambiguos sensation that there is something wrong with David 8; so, that one is quite dispensable.
3 - Saying: "there is no proof of" is as valid as saying "there is proof of", and, in this particular case, not only that "36h" remark makes no sense at all for the above mentioned, Spaiths confirms indirectly "It wasn't me".
4 - The "36h" remark would make sense if there was a continuation based on that remark. There is none whatsoever. So the case in point shows that it is a script error.
5 - Even if, by your terms, Fassbender was improvising that particular line [wich I seriously doubt it] that line had to be put down on script form later on. And, for that matter, whoever is responsible for the movie would have noticed it as an error and would be properly rectified before the grand opening [even if with voice-over]
These are my points regarding the "36h" line
As for the the David Series being pre-Ash. I don't follow the Weyland Site, but it could be possible that even within Ash's Model time frame there would still be David's runing around [models 9, 10...].
Remember, Bishop is a James Cameron creation, not a Ridley's one.
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]
Chuckadrew
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 6:55 PMI actually didn't notice this in the film... is that bad? lol
Either way, I think Vickers would've noticed had it been scripted, I believe he improvised, if my memory serves me right, does she not pull a slight face at that moment in time? Like "What is Michael doing... either way let's go with this"
So yeah, I believe it's improvisation.
Svanya
AdminPraetorianJul-16-2012 7:05 PMIt's just a movie goof up, things like that happen all the time. I didn't even notice it.
@deftones1986; Well, maybe David was just testing Vickers, he always seems to be messing with humans one way or another. Also keep in mind Ash wasn't made by Weyland industries, he was made by Hyperine systems. As for the post being buried, it won't because it gets bumped when people respond.
David 1
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 7:11 PMSvanya:
oh yessssssss.... that too. ah, good one.
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Engineering
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 7:23 PMCan we please lock this thread and just combine it with the pre-existing one? It would make everything a lot easier and we wouldn't have to read everyone else repeating themselves and we wouldn't have to repeat oursleves.
Just saying.
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synthetic_69
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 7:46 PMIn order to better serve the community I've started a new website called "damnyou36hours.com". It's a place where fans and detractors alike can bitch 24/7 about this very specific aspect of 'Prometheus". No other subject matter will be allowed to be discussed on my new website. Enjoy!
deftones1986
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 9:22 PMI just have one big question:
If it is IN FACT a "scripting error"
Can't we just all use our imagination, just like we did when we watched the friggin opening scene and imagined that we came from the Engineer, and P R E T E N D, that it was just David 8 having glitchy programming?..............
After all, they (Janek, Fifield, Millburn) do mention the word "glitch" like 3 or 4 times later on in the movie when talking about the PUP picking up a life form...
Geesh, there are way bigger fish to fry when it comes to this movie, and we are given a valid reason to "just say" that it was David glitching up, but STILL some of us want to dwell on this, what more do you want to happen to get you to move on from the damn 36 hours thing? All the pieces are there for us to just pretend, and the truth may never even surface now because OF COURSE they're going to say it's on purpose, what idiot in their right mind would come up and admit it was a scripiing error, when it can so easily be covered up with blaming it on a androids malfunction in the movie?...
And I do still believe that it was in there on purpose by the way, just for the record!!!
Oh, and has anybody ever seen the movie "The 25th Hour" with Edward Norton?.....maybe that's a MOVIE NAMING error??????? Oh no the conspiracy begins again!!!!!***
Lol, just making light of this whole thing, after all couldn't Spaites have just said to ask Lindeloff to get the friggin guy off his ball sack about how he couldn't sleep and his GF was gonna break up with him?
I'd do the same damn thing "Yeah man I didn't write it so go ask the other guy."
***25th Hour is an amazing movie by the way IMO. Great acting all the way around, pretty original ending as far as I'm concerned also.
MVMNT
MemberOvomorphJul-17-2012 4:39 AM@Engineering agreed
Can't be one rule for one, and another for the rest. Especially when they know exactly what they are doing.
Indy John
MemberOvomorphJul-17-2012 5:25 AM"..Well, maybe David was just testing Vickers.."
Perhaps David was testing everybody in the room just to see who was paying attention.
Since no one called him out on the 36hrs comment then David knew he had then upper hand,,and could lead this group 'test subjects'..to their demise..
Be choicelessly aware as you move through life
David 1
MemberOvomorphJul-17-2012 6:41 AMdeftones1986:
Quoting:
"Geesh, there are way bigger fish to fry when it comes to this movie, and we are given a valid reason to "just say" that it was David glitching up, but STILL some of us want to dwell on this, [b]what more do you want to happen to get you to move on from the damn 36 hours thing[/b]?"
Not wanting to sound rude, but I can't figure any other way of saying this:
[b]How about stop double posting the same thread???[/b] It seems you are dweling in this "36h" matter more than anybody else.
You don't like what people have to say as for their opinions? I'm sorry dude but I'm perfectly convinced of a script error and I'm not going to pretend anything. It's just one among many other oddities in the flick.
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