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If you made a Pometheus 2, how would you make it??

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Ravager, The Alien Queen

MemberOvomorphJul-03-2012 11:04 AM
what would you put it or leave out??
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Ravager, The Alien Queen

MemberOvomorphJul-03-2012 11:16 AM
i would keep the proto-aliens!

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MemberOvomorphJul-03-2012 11:20 AM
First off, fantastic question and two (the main characters, deacon, future Engineer Elders, the nasty Weyland Corporation, and some innocent bystanders).... LOL

Ravager, The Alien Queen

MemberOvomorphJul-03-2012 11:29 AM
what about Noomi?

Ravager, The Alien Queen

MemberOvomorphJul-03-2012 11:36 AM
mabey she runs into proto-xenos?? or even a place where the jockys accually have control over the protos? ideas???

shambs

MemberOvomorphJul-03-2012 11:42 AM
Prometheus 2: The Paradise [img]http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh517/starparadise86/136746355_Image9_122_26lo.jpg[/img] In the prologue we see part of the scene of Engineers in the genesis of the Earth and other scenes showing the Engineers watching humans in ancient times. [img]http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh517/starparadise86/16218.jpg[/img] There is a sinister plan in motion. [img]http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s402/Albertocrazy86/imagesCAHA3S4M.jpg[/img] and then the story is seen through 2 points of view: 1) YUTANI EXPEDITION [img]http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p589/jokerdeldesierto/Ogame_Space_Ship_Wallpaper.jpg[/img] The Yutani company send a ship called "Ethon Five" to investigate what Weyland found on LV-223. The crew is composed by: Miss Takako Yutani (Yutani company CEO). Marines: Shepard, Hunter, Lawrence, Lekker, Morgan, Bernard, Jacob, Tyler, Cameron ,Logan and Jenna. Scientists: Dr Daisuke (Astronomer), Dr Arthur (paleontologist), Dr Sydney (Archeologist), and Dr Savir (Geneticist) Pilots: Jim, Kail and Connor. The crew explores the pyramid. Inside on the temple the crew is attacked by huge snakes (22 feet long) living in the swamps of Black waters in the rooms of the big head. There, one of the creatures crushed the head of one of the Marines, Hunter, with their powerful jaws. Then Lawrence opens fire with his pulse rifle against the creature, killing her; but the corrosive blood reaches his face and body and burned to death. Another snake wrapped around the body of Cameron crushing by constriction. After killing him is burned with a flamethrower by Commander Shepard. [img]http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh517/starparadise86/Snake_Alien_by_ReBeLKiMy.jpg[/img] At the same time one of the Marines, Lekker, fled terrified by the claustrophobic corridors of the structure and is kidnapped by the Deacon between the shadows. [img]http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p589/jokerdeldesierto/deacon_concept6.jpg[/img] More later the second expedition explorer the Juggernaut and find the deacon adult, now become in a huge monster, even more larger than the Engineers. The creature moves with great speed and agility on the walls and ceilings and attacks by ambush, killing 3 members (Abie, Bernard, and Daisuke). when he finally reveals himself kill Arthur and Morgan with its second mouth. Finally, the monster is destroyed, but the squadron of the mission has suffered heavy losses. [img]http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh517/starparadise86/9930a422dc642acc4017f0e3b27ce945-d55n0z1.jpg[/img] Then the survivors of the crew found the cargo hold full of urns, and decide to take 2 for analysis. Within the Ethon, in the laboratory, the Dr Savir (scientific officer) studies the strange black substance injected into laboratory animals and he discover that not only serves to create a biological weapon, also has other qualities such as reviving corpses. The crew also collected what looks like a kind of solidified green resin, this resin in the form of green crystals preserved in very good condition DNA samples from some kind of creature. The samples dating back millions of years old. [img]http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p589/jokerdeldesierto/film-alien-egg-morph.jpg[/img] On the other hand the man who was kidnapped by the Deacon, Lekker, is enveloped in a cocoon. After a while it becomes an egg. Jacob finds the egg and a small creature (a cross between cephalopod and spider) born and jumps to stick on his face. [img]http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s402/Albertocrazy86/concept_87.jpg[/img] Now the leader of the ship, Miss Takako Yutani, plans to steal the urns of the cargo hold of the Juggernaut to bring back to Earth. Through it all she informs the rest of the fleet, which is to come, about the mansaje of Dr. Shaw, but before leaving the orbit of the moon a huge Engineer mothership (like a flying saucer) flying over the pyramids of LV-223... [img]http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh517/starparadise86/dfvghjkl.png[/img] 2) SHAW AND DAVID TRIP [img]http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh517/starparadise86/capital_ship.jpg[/img] David and Dr Shaw find the home planet of the Engineers like a place ravaged by the war and all cities are in ruins. [img]http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh517/starparadise86/prometheus_chamber_by_radojavor-d4bkui2.jpg[/img] Among the ruins Shaw and David sighted hundreds of old ships abandoned in the post-apocalyptic landscape. [img]http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s402/Albertocrazy86/tumblr_m2220o4MVd1rnm594o1_400.jpg[/img] Then the true God is revealed as a huge biomechanical mothership and kidnaps Dr. Shaw and David. [img]http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p589/jokerdeldesierto/359_1066199614852_4369_n-copia.jpg[/img] Inside the gigantic ship everything seems biomechanical and organic. The walls take horrible humanoid forms when David and Shaw crossed by the claustrophobic and dark hallway. Some of the humanoid figures are mated sexually to give rise to new and more exotic life forms. [img]http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p589/jokerdeldesierto/GIGER_LANDSCAPES.jpg[/img] Finally both come to the bridge. There are a huge biomechanical monolith. Definitely is not a machine, is some kind of complex and superior life form. Shaw tries to communicate with the entity to get his precious answers, then David helping her, and begins to transmit the messages in the language of the Engineers to communicate with the God. There, the creature displays enormous tentacles and inserted into the skin of Shaw. Shaw's body begins to mutate into a big biomechanical woman. [img]http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh517/starparadise86/hr_giger_csg081-1--7c0d76.jpg[/img] at the same time the mechanism produces a strange siren sound (as in the trailer for Alien and Prometheus) The Dr. Shaw begins to see images of the ancient past in his head... [img]http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s402/Albertocrazy86/prometheus_and_god_by_dejano23-d56r8kq.jpg[/img] And the truth is that the Engineers are just tools, very similar to the relationship between humans and androids. The Engineers rebelled against his master and creator. They did not want to be simple terraforming tools and created a terrible biological weapon to fight against this Gods. The Engineers found the DNA samples of an extinct race of monsters in Crystals of green resin. [img]http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p589/jokerdeldesierto/nfs8rn.jpg[/img] This species lived in LV-223 five million years ago. [img]http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p589/jokerdeldesierto/ahahah.jpg[/img] They have a skeletal body with hardened tentacles on the back and a sort of tube attached to the sternum. Then the armed military of the engineers race design their biomechanical space suits based on the appearance of the ancient monsters. [img]http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p589/jokerdeldesierto/concept001.jpg[/img] After performing many experiments with the DNA of this extinct Aliens,the engineers finally created the perfect soldier. [img]http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p589/jokerdeldesierto/alien1.jpg[/img] But they had some troubles to transporting the eggs, 2200 years ago an engineer trying to transport a shipment of eggs in his old Juggernaut but an incident occurred, and he crashed on LV-426. The pilot sent a signal to his brother explaining what happened before he died and the military scientists of LV-223 began to perfect his creation. In the process many Engineers died but one survived to complete the mission. [img]http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p589/jokerdeldesierto/space-jockey-alien-580x426.jpg[/img] And the evolution took the next step and the gun was redesigned and updated to facilitate the transport. [img]http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh517/starparadise86/prometheusK_screencap31.jpg[/img] The Engineers plans were to carry the weapon to Earth to use humans as incubators of an army of xenomorphs. The star maps was a trap because Sometimes to create, one must first destroy. [img]http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh517/starparadise86/tumblr_m3yizyOa7D1rnm594o1_500.jpg[/img] The visions stop but the biomechanical God entity has read Shaw's memories and she knows that the humanity is interested in the monstrosities that the Engineers have created (as well as other races in the past) and now the Alien ship is headed to LV-223 to stop this threat. At that moment, David discovers another kind of Urn. Inside he can see a black substance bubbling similar to that contained in other Urns. [img]http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p589/jokerdeldesierto/concept_79.jpg[/img] This new liquid can generate a biochemical reaction to convert RNA into DNA and cause a real biological Big Bang (similar to the Cambrian Explosion). This masterpiece of the Genetics engineering is the true fire of the gods. A technology that undoubtedly would make to the humans equal to the Gods. But before David takes the following action, the terrifying figure of the now transformed Shaw appears behind him to destroy it. Now a dark and frightening battle will occur in LV-223...

CBT1979

MemberOvomorphJul-03-2012 11:48 AM
More of the Deacon how it grows and maybe even evolves. To get some questions answered. The movie should be around 150 mins cinematic version). More scary parts. Return of Shaw and David. Know more about the Aliens that existed way longer in the past.

Ravager, The Alien Queen

MemberOvomorphJul-03-2012 11:52 AM
impressive, but, how does david get back in one piece?? an d if you kill off all the protos, then how does it flow into Alien??

Ghost Solitare

MemberOvomorphJul-03-2012 11:57 AM
First a few questions would have to be addressed. Do Engineer ships require cryostasis during flight or are they even faster than FTL. How long will the trip take Shaw and David. These two will have some very interesting conversations during the trip, I would like to have some of David's motivations be his own rather than directives from Weyland. Illustrating his evolution from a tool to be used by his creators into an independent artificial organism. My next thought was why the installation had not been visited since the outbreak 2000 years ago. This doesn't bode well for what Shaw will find when she reaches their world. I try to imagine the sort of disorientation an engineer would be suffering from after spending two millenia in cryostasis. Unless someone told him, did he even know that much time had passed? I'm not asking to be spoon fed answers, just given a taste of solutions. I'd dearly love to totally shock the audience by having Shaw discover that the engineers are merely evolved creations of yet a second race of aliens, perhaps the Pure Xenomoph. Something thats larger and completely not in keeping with what we've seen so far. Shaw would become quite interesting as she is the sole representative of a unique biological genome, and she's convieniently delivered herself into the hands of the master craftsmen of this entire spider web. So it would be up to David to extracate her from this situation or at least to do something to both drive the story as well as suture up the loose ends. For all of this he would have to be whole once more, I've no doubt Shaw could accomplish this she's a woman of many talents and she has God on her side apparently.

Ravager, The Alien Queen

MemberOvomorphJul-03-2012 12:05 PM
PROTO-XENO-QUEEN muahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ravager, The Alien Queen

MemberOvomorphJul-03-2012 12:06 PM
what would a proto-xeno-queen look like??

Ravager, The Alien Queen

MemberOvomorphJul-03-2012 12:28 PM
xeno=tail proto=tailess xeno=rounded head proto=pointed head xeno=come from egg proto=come from goo xeno queen=(we know what they look like) proto queen=?????????????????????????????????

kippledweller

MemberOvomorphJul-03-2012 1:26 PM
David: "It's a 5 year journey to the Engineer homeworld Elizabeth" Shaw:" OK... well I'm going into hypersleep, meantime your head can stay zipped up in that bag and JUST YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU"VE DONE!"

Ravager, The Alien Queen

MemberOvomorphJul-03-2012 1:46 PM
lol!! sounds like something i would say!!!

David 1

MemberOvomorphJul-03-2012 2:07 PM
Shambhala: your Deacon looks like is barfing. LMAO
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]

aircraftfixer

MemberOvomorphJul-03-2012 2:25 PM
__ "Prometheus 2"-- 1. The engineers seeded Earth because of a known future apocalypse. They attempted to put forth a legacy. 2. That known event has something to do with what happened on both LV-426 (first) and later LV-223. What happened to the original Space Jockey is directly stated and shown. 3. Shaw/David discover that the reason no engineers rescued or even made contact with LV-223 is because they succumbed to the apocalypse... As in- Shaw/David discover that all engineer society & technology are ruins now. 4. The Deacon creature is explained to be just another example of the many possible results of Black Goo infection, Face Hugger impregnation, and NOT being the result of weapon development or bio-engineering. The deacon example is shown to be a natural Evolutionary occurrence that was perhaps (at best) harvested- or attempted to be "Domesticated" for lack of my tired brains vernacular. This is my ultimate sequel scenario.

Inquisitor Tremayne

MemberOvomorphJul-03-2012 2:29 PM
Let's just redo Prometheus to start with and go from there! Kill the deacon (how silly - maybe with a meteor or something) and Shaw - fix David and go right back to LV-223 and do it right with a team of smart professionals/scientist that do not act like morons loaded with poor dialogue!

aircraftfixer

MemberOvomorphJul-05-2012 9:25 AM
Ok- and again... Prometheus didn't answer but one question asked years ago by the original film Alien. It was way too open-ended on it's own, and even worse after having seen the original. I would put forth here, not so much what "I" would do in a sequel to Prometheus, but instead a rather wordy example of what I like to see in any prequel/sequel. I know- Its not a prequel. But the one other prequel that I have viewed was just as much a disappointment: The Thing (2011)... Conceived as a story about the Norwegians who discovered, and had their own prior dealings with John Carpenter's The Thing. Except for a few interesting novelties, IT WAS THE EXACT SAME STORY! No new ideas or enlightenment with regard to the events that would be portrayed just hours (in movie time) later. The Thing simply devoured/assimilated/destroyed the Norwegians and then a variation of it just escapes and does the same to the Americans and their camp. IMHO, it would have been great for the 2011 prequel to show the Norwegians get really, really close to conquering this nemesis- but run out of time or resources or something. Then; by movie's end, the clever (or just lucky?) Thing should have (again- IMHO) outwitted the Norwegian's last survivors foolproof, well thought out, absolutely guaranteed to work plan. Perhaps by some accident or other such reverse deus ex machina in that film, the Thing as a dog escapes once more- leaving the viewer to cringe knowing that the Norwegians came THAT CLOSE to victory- and wishing that the Americans hadn't ignorantly killed; instead of wounding, the very last Norwegian who knew the secret to destroying "The Thing"- despite his language gap. Prometheus could have been a marvelous mystery solver had it been written by a sophisticated, detail oriented enthusiast of the original. Instead, Ridley Scott hired a whack job and went back and forth with him creating plenty of unsubstantiatable script ideas. Prometheus' writer did state in some interview out there that he believes the next film (sequel) might need "new blood" or a fresh set of eyes in the form of a different writer. I sure hope so!

kay

MemberOvomorphJul-06-2012 5:48 PM
Prometheus 2. We learn more about the infleunce of the engineers on the primitive civilisation of earth..... We learn that the engineers are capable of rebirthing themselves or through cell transdiferiation reverting themselves to a juvenile state. Thus adding weight and scope to ressurection myt and also immortality. Discover more links archaeological to the engineers. Shaw and David get closer to the engineers frontier. We learn that the black goo. Is a weapon against the xenos...somehow it makes xenos blood toxic to themselves... Strange things start to happen to david.... Shaw captures an engineer...

kay

MemberOvomorphJul-07-2012 1:04 PM
Also i'd like to evidence of decimation in the engineer frontier...perhaps david and shaw visit some engineer outpost, imagine them setting down on lyonnesse the lost city from tristran and isoldè...and seeing more devistation and finding another holographic part of the puzzle... whilst all the time your discovering and seeing the alien landscape temples...statues..Palaces.....architecture or even Atlantis descending into the depths...and seeing a city under the sea....

Cypher

Co-AdminMemberOvomorphJul-20-2012 4:29 AM
Without Lindelof writing any of the script or being anywhere near the production.
[url=http://www.robocopmovie.net/][img]http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac89/snorkelbottom/NewRoboBanner.jpg[/img][/url] "Is it dead this time?" "I dunno, poke it with this stick and see."

sukkal

MemberOvomorphJul-24-2012 4:59 PM
A dinner party on Paradise at which Shaw and David are present as honored guests with about 7 other influential Elder Engineers who know a lot about their history and can answer LOTS of questions. All of the dialogue is in Engineer. David’s head occasionally interprets for Shaw who is rather uncomfortable in her organic resin booster seat. The entrée consists of boiled facehugger stuffed with rice. The room is elegantly appointed with Geiger-esque furnishings and an Alien Queen head is mounted over the fireplace. To the left of the fireplace is the missing Ark of the Covenant and the Holy Grail sits beside a candelabra on the mantle. As some point someone brings up Atlantis and there's an uncomfortable pause in the otherwise jovial banter... It's all in 3D, of course!

Capt. David

MemberOvomorphJul-25-2012 7:33 PM
Simple. Show what the original Engineers on LV-223 were running from. Show how whatever they were running from gets to the Home World and destroys them. This ties into how the Derelict on LV-426 got there (while heading back to the Home World).

Molecular

MemberOvomorphJul-27-2012 12:07 PM
Shambhala, that is a very nice write-up, I would love to see something like this in the sequel. The only thing that made me go "Hmmm" was that the star maps were a trap. I think of a trap as a device to capture (or kill) something that is not easily attainable- like a wild hog, for instance. But the Engineers don't need to trap us first to use us as cannon fodder for xenos, they can just send a Juggernaught and drop off their payload. If the goal is to detect a certain level of technological development and put a stop to it, why not just send an unmanned probe? Because what if we don't care to visit- and continue technological development unabated- becoming even more of a potential threat? I don't know, Ridley making the Space Jockey a large humanoid in a suit really killed it for me. Now if they do decide to make the sequel, I would like to see them go back to that idea. For example, the engineers *use* Space Jockey tech, but there is another, higher biomechanoid race overseeing them. This would save the original Space Jockey from being belittled by Ridley's silly man-in-suit fantasies and open up a lot more possibilities. That's another thing- whatever story they dream up for the sequel, drop it in this forum first so it can go through a few good thousand maulings before it's good enough to film. Because the minds on this forum are just coming up with all sorts of awesome shit.

Ruhaniya

Veteran MemberMemberOvomorphJul-27-2012 4:06 PM
First off...as humans explore outerspace maybe they do find relics of ancient aliens and NOT HUMANS. Colonists keep finding more stuff and at some point the military would have a highly trained group of scientists go from planet to planet trying to put the puzzle pieces together. Regardless of the Weyland corporations power, the space marines would ultimately be monitoring their progress. Now if they were to chase Shaw across the galaxy to the Alien home universe I would expect her to get there before they could catch up. By the time they get there she would have been assimilated into it's biomechanical matrix and the aliens very prepared for human contact on a completely biomorphic fractal planets and giant spacestation habitats like a Nanodelbrot Odyssey. [img]http://images.mmorpg.com/features/2733/images/2733_1_t.jpg[/img] [img]http://macross2.net/m3/sdfmacross/macross/macross-bridgeinterior1.gif[/img] [img]http://content.wallpapers-room.com/presentationBig/OrbThu_Orbital_Thunderstorm_by_gucken.jpg[/img] [img]http://godsofart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/prometheus_by_radojavor-d4kispb.jpg[/img] [img]http://features.cgsociety.org/newgallerycrits/g55/416455/416455_1279542747_large.jpg[/img] [img]http://images.wikia.com/sonicfanon/images/0/04/78551.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.deviantart.com/download/102655497/Julian_Orb_by_Golubaja.jpg[/img] [img]http://feralstrumpet.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/iss006-e-22939.jpg[/img] [img]http://th02.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2011/068/3/2/babylon_tower_by_wasteland_3d-d2vdfzj.jpg[/img] [img]http://features.cgsociety.org/newgallerycrits/g14/89314/89314_1288166666_large.jpg[/img]

SpaceNik

MemberOvomorphJul-27-2012 4:43 PM
Absolutely, no friggin xenos. They've been done to death, brought back and done to death again. They're not scary anymore and all the facehugging and chestbursting is boring & redundant. Want to see Shaw & David make it to the engineer homeworld to discover there are two warring factions of engineer, the one's who made us and the one's that want to destroy us.

Ruhaniya

Veteran MemberMemberOvomorphJul-27-2012 8:29 PM
Oh I almost forgot...a hoe bunch a bad asses getting wasted on an epic scale @8
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