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nysalor

MemberOvomorphMay-23-2012 8:38 PM
All using released video. And its a lot of fun. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9cDyJXhZ4k In space, no one can hear your spoiler warnings. The Coming Sooner gang take a look at the non stop Prometheus marketing campaign, and try to work out exactly how much of the film has already been revealed in its trailers.
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Deckard_B26354

MemberOvomorphMay-23-2012 9:29 PM
I told you so! IT is all EXACTLY as I predicted. And I really hated to say all that.

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphMay-23-2012 8:46 PM
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9cDyJXhZ4k]Fabulous[/url]

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphMay-23-2012 9:07 PM
FURTHERMORE, THAT RIGHT THERE PRETTY MUCH NAILED THE ENTIRE FILM THAT IS A 100% SPOILER OF THE ENTIRE FILM JUST ABOUT AND THEY NAILED IT CLEARLY NAILED IT. NOBODY READ THIS IF YOU DO NOT WANT THIS THING COMPLETELY SPOILED !!!

NCC 1701

Veteran MemberMemberOvomorphMay-23-2012 9:10 PM
Right on ............

nysalor

MemberOvomorphMay-23-2012 9:15 PM
Yeah, don't look if you want to be surprised in theatre. Even if it's half right (I personally reckon about two thirds) it presents the most coherent and entertaining precis I've yet seen. All from the *26* (so far) released trailers and viral videos. There's a lot more careful research and creativity in this than most commercial reviewers ever bother with. A fan boy labour of love. I also really enjoyed the humour of it. Holloway = cut price Tom Hardy. David = (Fass) Bender Bot.

MAJ

MemberOvomorphMay-23-2012 9:16 PM
That was awesome. But they are such amateurs.

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphMay-23-2012 9:21 PM
IT Really IS AWESOME BUT IT DOES SPOIL ALMOST 75% OR MORE OF THIS THING AND i am [b]waring any casual forum frequenters BEWARE of the content here[/b] it is a true spoiler in every sense of the word...

MAJ

MemberOvomorphMay-23-2012 9:27 PM
Yes, but they still got plenty wrong...SO wrong: "Scene with an engineer at the waterfall... this goes first, as revealed by it's actor You show them escaping away from the dust storm, but Shaw is carrying the engineers head they find in the temple, ergo they clearly got into the temple prior to that happening Which blows the order right out the water already You also showed the clip of Holloway getting onto the ship, with Vickers' dialogue, but totally omit the scene after where she torches him with her flame-thrower. Found that odd. MVMNTDOTCODOTUK 1 hour ago "Reply You sir, have a masterful eye for detail. For what it's worth there are still a lot of lose ends we couldn't fit in, not sure where the flashback to Shaw's father occurs, or where Weyland comes into the occasion, and the giant tentacle monster that was revealed in the 60 second spot last night leaves us kind of baffled. I'm prepared to say the trailers actually do a pretty good job of keeping you guessing while showing a lot." ComingSoonerTV in reply to MVMNTDOTCODOTUK 51 minutes ago

Mostly

MemberOvomorphMay-23-2012 10:00 PM
They have plenty wrong but some guess work that is interesting. As mentioned above they do get into the mound and find a head as that is brought back with Shaw. I think they have the Holloway infection timing wrong as i think that starts on the first trip as well. david does not wait to open the ampule, he opens that before the second trip. I dont think David does something to Shaw to create the creature. What i do think is a good idea is they leave and then try to come back. That would explain why Shaw is in her hyper sleep clothes and everyone else is in white clothing when she has the creature removed.

Deckard_B26354

MemberOvomorphMay-23-2012 9:32 PM
BTW, the above post was a joke. I didn't even read the spoilerific article. But even though I hate to say it, I'm going to say I told you so with everything revealed.

fakeshemp8

MemberOvomorphMay-23-2012 10:00 PM
That is a gross over-exaggeration Spartacus. The clip does not spoil 75% of the film; its made up of 100% trailer footage. ie stuff we already know. If anything this clip loosely outlines <75% of the plot, leaving out all the juicy details that are actual spoilers.

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphMay-23-2012 10:03 PM
[b]That is a gross over-exaggeration Spartacus. The clip does not spoil 75% of the film; its made up of 100% trailer footage. ie stuff we already know. If anything this clip loosely outlines <75% of the plot, leaving out all the juicy details that are actual spoilers.[/b] I completely disagree and think they got almost everything they said DEAD BANG ON THE MONEY !!! Whats funny in your statement to me is the PROOF is right there of it in each clip they used! and I also said 75% not 100%.

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphMay-23-2012 10:05 PM
also, the above post, they posted a clip which clearly shows DavId8 doing something to Shaw. There is also a CLIP OF HIM SHOOTING HOOPS WHICH I HAD NEVER SEEN.

Cyberdeath

MemberOvomorphMay-23-2012 10:32 PM
If you added up all the trailers together, and took out all the repeated stuff i think you'd have about 15 minutes total max. that isn't very much for a 2+ hour film. These guys in this video think exactly what Ridley scott wants them to, no more and no less. I think they used some of the pictures from our gallery too, like the skull temple one, dirty little robbers.

FREEZE!

Co-AdminMemberOvomorphMay-23-2012 10:34 PM
Nice, I hope these guys are wrong, soooo wrong. But, it seems they got the flow down. @Sparty, the hoops scene was in one of the clips after the international came out, it was foreign I believe, but I've seen it. I cracked up the first time I saw it...
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Mala'kak

MemberOvomorphMay-23-2012 10:42 PM
Didn't Lindelof once say that there was going to be certain easter eggs and almost a mash-up of Alien and Bladerunner's ideas? Where's that in this theory? And all the so-called leaks that have been coming out. We may have figured out a lot but there's still much more to be seen. I still believe a lot of people have only seen certain additional test scenes like I have (different ones in some cases that they add to everything they've already seen/figured out and allow them to throw in new ideas pretending they've seen the whole film). I saw the cobra-hugger choking the victim and going into the throat a few weeks before it was released to the public, and posted it as semi-detailed speculation, as well as what happens after, as my way of not breaking NDA. Twitter girl definitely had some things off, as do other leaks, but I haven't seen the whole film yet so I can't tell for sure. When they first showed the test scenes of Holloway checking his eye people pretended they saw the whole movie too. I saw that back when the effect on the eye was slightly different, and did in fact look like the x files black oil stuff that can now be seen in the ampule. So, they have changed some of these test scenes before releasing them as part of the trailers. That full screening did just take place, and there was one before. If the latest one leaks I've learned the audience may still not have seen the last 12 minutes of the film. The people on twitter could have easily seen similar test scenes slightly in advance. They ran whole screenings for some of the scenes, but in the beginning were showing only full scenes, not the full movie. And I really believe no one has the full story right yet. Certain things are missing from the so-called leaks and some theories... I don't even have a way of knowing the full story either because I've only seen like maybe one or two things that they haven't shown everyone now. To be clear my crazy Atlantis theory is just a theory, but SPOILER I base it on something Holloway says to David that they haven't shown yet. And it ties into them not being gods. /SPOILER We've truly only scratched the surface so far, I think.

SaintsSinphony

MemberOvomorphMay-23-2012 11:23 PM
yeah, sure they go to a planet, sure they go into the temple multiple times, sure they run into monster, they still don't explain how anyone dies, anything about the engineers and I guess they missed the very much talked about tentacle monster they better not quit their day jobs p.s. don't wear black when you are using a black background and don't use a black background when you have black hair it looks like there is some floating head and his body and hair are gone

Drakeequation

MemberOvomorphMay-24-2012 12:04 AM
These guys are wrong about everything that wasn't explicitly shown in the trailer. Some of the stuff is obvious (like that there is a meeting before they land on the planet and that they run from a sand storm at some point) and anyone can piece it somewhere along the timeline of the film. There are many glaring error in their synopsis like the fact that their first trip to the alien structure is unsuccessful. For one thing, we know Shaw is carrying a head in the bag on her lap. The fact that the first trip is successful changes the trajectory of the rest of the film. They also fail to acknowledge the fact that there are three Engineers in the film, that a mutated hammerpede jumps from the mouth of the dead crew member it previously killed when they later find his body, that they examine the Engineers head at some point, the firefight in the control room between the merc and the Engineer, and the fact that a tentacle monster attacks both Shaw and the Engineer.

Mala'kak

MemberOvomorphMay-24-2012 12:12 AM
I'm almost certain that what Holloway and Weyland mutate into is not "the last engineer". POSSIBLE SPOILERS from what I've heard about different test scenes that were screened to people I know + my own speculation. Just for you guys. I didn't see this stuff myself but trust a lot of it. I'll let you figure out where what I heard ends and where the speculation begins, because a lot of the people posting full plot summaries are exactly where I am I think and are mainly just guessing. They've seen a little bit more and are able to make general guesses. That's how the twitter girl was able to get many things right like the snake throat thing, but is very vague on other things, and missing some things completely. She helped others figure a few more things out though, lol. Now that I've seen a lot of other things through the trailers I kind of believe what one member of a survey group I'm part of said. POTENTIALLY MASSIVE SPOILERS. YOU'VE BEEN WARNED. That engineer definitely gets woken up and is already on that moon. My source has assured me that no one transforms into the smaller one... but someone goes through an intermediate stage where they look like an Engineer, temporarily become the taller one we thought was actually the Engineer, and they start to become something else that the last engineer (aka actually the smaller one) tries to recreate. Weyland thinks it's going good as he strolls around the ship killing one of the David bots with his new found power. I believe that part is correct. Thing is he's advancing past that stage and becoming what the engineers are descended from, a more ancient lovecraftian race that they worship because of the gifts they received/stole from them. Something goes wrong and Weyland becomes a gargantuan monster that cannot die very easily. It keeps self-replicating the dead cells at an extraordinary rate like a cancer, and will actually come back to life. Holloway becomes more of your standard newly formed engineer, but gets eaten by the tentacle monster. The smaller, real engineer that we're being misdirected about is considerably resourceful. Some of the mind control over his creations might be true. Weyland's no longer an Engineer or a human, or an Elder god. The smaller engineer, now infected by David's doing may be controlling Weyland, and it's actually the smaller "last engineer" who dons the suit and keeps the Weyland monster temporarily quarantined on the Juggernaut, while others are still transforming on the Prometheus and have to be dealt with too when they find out they're leaving. The Engineer wants to take Weyland and his other pets back home to exact revenge on the humans, as well as to collect more samples to try to recreate his own race and the elder gods through our genetics since Weyland was a failure due to a problem he had and he knows something about these other humans. The mountains of madness ending probably comes when we find out the Engineers were created by the same other worldly beings humans were. There's another race above them in the hierarchy that I think Vickers or Shaw gets to meet at the end. Beings who are the true owners of the suits and the true creators of us, them, the Xenomorph, and their biomechanical tech that they inherited after they rebelled against their creators. We were doing the same thing as the Engineers, trying to match and steal from our creators, when really they aren't actually the true creators. And have had their kingdom vanish in the past because of their misuse of the fire they were given. Using it to do horrible experiments creating mermaids, centaurs, minotaurs, and other strange hybrids and serpent and sea monsters. Which resulted in the Titan/Lovecraftian race destroying Atlantis/Paradise/the garden of Eden/the mythological golden age because of their misuse of power, and mistreatment to the humans already on the planet... And with that I'm off. Just had to get this out. Cannot wait to see if my Atlantis theory is right, and will find out right away. I really think we're in for a treat and that we've been misled about who the Engineers are.

nysalor

MemberOvomorphMay-24-2012 12:16 AM
My comment to the Coming Sooner producers: Nice guys. Fantastic effort - loved the humour. I think you got about two thirds right, but really, who knows until we are in the big dark room with the twisties in our laps. You missed the Peter Weyand puzzle - did he stow away in Vicker's quarters? You didn't quite grok the significance of the mercenaries and the second ship, you got unnecessarily complicated with the trip sequences, and you have a few things out of order. We know there are three distinct phases to Cuddle's life cycle. Perhaps most importantly, you neglected the philosophical, lets-pretend-Van-Daniken-wasn'­t-a-gratuitous fraudster idea about the engineers past interventions in human history and in particular the Sumerian first civilisation links. And while I'm being a smartarse, am I gonna cut up the trailers and assemble my version? No way - kudos to you, I loved it and I laughed. Judging from the comments so far, it seems the most horrific thing about Prometheus may be the way it brings the twelve year old uber-opinionated fanboys out of their bedrooms. We may need to nuke 'em from orbit. It's the only way to be Shaw.

nysalor

MemberOvomorphMay-24-2012 12:25 AM
The producers of the cut-up respond: Both your puns and your praise are very highly appreciated. To be completely frank we really hope we got most of it wrong, because it means we get to be surprised when we go watch the movie. Really this is just an experiment to see if the footage in the trailers alone can be cobbled together into a story, if we are way off the mark, then it just goes to show how clever the marketing for this film is, by showing so much and yet not spoiling anything.

Slakkers

MemberOvomorphMay-24-2012 2:48 AM
I am 100% sure they got all their speculations wrong.

MVMNT

MemberOvomorphMay-24-2012 4:00 AM
@MAJ Cheers for the citation I was taking one for the team, that video was such a disorganised mess, although well presented, i'm at a loss as to how they overlooked such obvious detail. Especially with the amount of chatter about the film out there

BigDave

MemberDeaconMay-24-2012 5:53 AM
lol... I think areyouseeingthis link was better ;) Many holes in these guys theories aswell...... 1st temple vist comes empty handed..... nope they get the head and urn on 1st visit, 2nd visit they get attacked, 3rd well thats them being silly....

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BigDave

MemberDeaconMay-24-2012 5:58 AM
Oh only one thing makes sence in what they said... That David infects Shaw after she goes back into Hypersleep.... That could be correct... Big Things come from Small Beginings....... this is proof that David infects Shaw, so do not look if you dont want a spoiler.... its not a case of Holloway rape while he is mind controlled by Engineer, neither is it Tenticle Monster Rape.... Its Dirty David having a mess and infecting her that way.... SPOILER SPOILER..... [url=http://www.imbecile.me/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/baby-octopus.jpg]Big Things Come from Small Beginings[/url]

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Frantz

MemberOvomorphMay-24-2012 9:46 AM
I think they did an average work ..they miss too many things ...all the engineers thing is totally forgotten or just briefly explained while its supposed to be the core of the movie . No head in the bag explaination . No old guy explaination too ...seems an half fail to me

BigDave

MemberDeaconMay-24-2012 10:15 AM
Wow some of your stuff seems a bit over the top, mind you we do have Lindelof on board..... Back to the so called leaks, well those people missed many things.. Did any of them mention... .......................................SPOILER................................. 1) Water Fall Engineer taking something to sacrefice, disintergrate himself to start the building blocks of life? 2) That Holloway gets toasted by Vickers? 3) That the Tentacle Monster attacks the Engineer? 4) That Shaw is leaving the Derelict after it crashed in a position simular to the one in Alien... i.e after it falls back over? 5) That David goes over to the Engineer while he is asleep and wakes him up? Plus many more things that was not shown in the Trailers and TV Spots untill the last week........ ............................END.......SPOILER The Answer no they did not, you see those things came about after their so called viewings and they never mentioned those important events? This adds more weight to how they simply added stuff up based on Trailers and Speculation... I had spoken to two people who seen the movie in LA last week. They never gave me details much.... ...................................SPOILERS................................ Only one claimed the movie has no direct link to Alien, but that at the end we will see something very simular that could provide a link only the movie ended without a explanation..... thus Prometheus 2 could follow on and that scene could be a direct link. The other said that yes/no there are many scenes that offer a clue to what MAY be linked to Alien well certain aspects, but it gives no direct answer. Just scenes that will get us to assume and speculate more, kind of some scenes that we may use to join dots to get some more speculative answers. This person also claimed that the end of the movie is open, but he does see it bieng a tease and potential link to Alien but movie ends without showing us too much, but you would assume it would lead to a Prequel to Alien in Prometheus 2. Both never gave real details, the second one did say that this movie will partially answer some questions but will raise many more and also not to the regards of Alien Derelict scene... he says a lot of scenes are not explained and when after Alien we was left with one scene and that was the Derelict, Jockey and why it had those Eggs, this movie leaves a fair number of such unanswered things. Regarding the creature both indicate Shaws Baby as being where it kicks off, and so any hint of a new creature or even the Xeno must trace its roots back to Shaws Baby. Both confirmed Shaws Baby grows huge, and thus a Tentacle monster (this was before that new scene came out) and they both said the end product, so last stage of its cycle will amaze Alien fans and we will see a good connection between it and the 1979 Xeno. Regarding the Temple attack scene..... person one claims that the crew are attacked by a giant Octopus and it releases Cobraxenos who in turn release newt like creatures that infect people. Person two said the scene is not as we make out from trailers and what we think are a selection of scenes that take place in order are far from that, he said that the trailers dont scratch the surface and that tadpoles infect people and crew do a runner only save Holloway. ............END SPOILER...................... I never had nothing more from them because i only asked both... 1) Vaguely to not give details does this movie link to Alien YES/NO 2) Does the Cobra attack, Face Melt scene happen pretty much close to what happens in those trailers, what becomes of Milburn etc. Are they telling the truth... i dont know, they wont reply to any other messages. Also my brothers mate said there was to be a screening of the movie on the 22nd maybe 23rd, i was told this over 2 weeks ago and i mentioned it on here a few times. Recently also and i guess some had doubts.... Now we have had a few people on Twitter who had closed their acounts, and posted a image taken from cell phone of the movie, that Fox had asked to remove. And the BBCF had gave its detailed explanation for its 15 certificate. Again these things came out after the 22nd/23rd (24th for the Twitter and image Fox removed) which must add some weight to indeed there was a screening on the 22nd or 23rd.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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