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Rawr
MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 11:22 PMSo in the trailer they find this skeleton, now i'm not sure on its size but its either a suit thing or a space jockeys skeleton which i think is possibly like a exo skeleton or something...
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I think what we might have in prometheus is whatever this alien thing is that does the face rape etc is the start of it all, when they say are these things moving i think the substance they find has somehow evolved itself and becomes self aware.
It attacks the crew and we see some get the worms in there eyes, others go full on crazy mode and some have alien lifeforms inside of them. Now i think whatever it changes to after that stage is not xenomorphs but a different alien species which will open up the possibility for a new story to play out later on.
But also this creation substance or lifeform that its turned into infects space jockeys and they become xenomorphs, that's why they have a exo skeleton becuase either the jockeys do or its from the suit as it would probably be connected to there nervous system.
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[b]That takes out the whole weapon thing/purposeful creation of the xenomorph idea but still it's interesting, maybe they have created other life like humans but never expected the substance to do anything by itself.[/b][u][/u]
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Forever War
MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 11:41 PMFirst impression....I think it's far more interesting that it takes out the whole weaponized creature concept..that does open up an entire area I like. I think it accounts for the Xeno well, why its what it is.
MAJ
MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 11:41 PMIt's a good theory...no reason why it wouldn't work. However, based upon recent comments from some of the writers, it seems as if we don't really learn much about the xenomorphs. If that's true, then the movie would not be worth it, IMHO. However, your theory is a good one.
Rawr
MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 11:46 PM@MAJ
I don't trust anything ridley or the writers have said tbh, they are trying to keep it all very vague even though the trailers do show a fair bit but still leave heaps of unanswered questions so with this "leaked" plot and all that stuff we continue wondering exactly what the fuck is going on.
Forever War
MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 11:48 PMIts totally suspicious that we get shown so much and yet hear the movie makers talk so much double talk..yes....there is a huge story element missing and kept under the table
Tears N. Reign
MemberOvomorphMay-15-2012 11:52 PMNo need to consider speculations as potential spoilers. I don't neceessarily agrree or disagree with that synopsis, yet I'd hardly call it a spoiler.
I suspect somewhere down the line android mech hybrids with human DNA and with a few unearthly spices in the pot, so have you the xenomorph at some point on the timeline outside the spectrum of this cinima experience.
Rawr
MemberOvomorphMay-16-2012 12:06 AMJust wanted to be careful really, i know nothing in there can be confirmed at all right now but for those that are keeping details to a possible minimum i wanted to be on the safe side for them.
The same thing happened on LV-426, think about how they find all those eggs in Alien and the chestbursted pilot, so the population of eggs got built up and when us humans show up it starts the whole thing off.
But that leaves out how the eggs we're made i guess, how exactly does it work in the other movies?
Tears N. Reign
MemberOvomorphMay-16-2012 1:24 AM"How the eggs were made.." Well, if familliar with the myth of Prometheus, he was punnished by the gods, kept getting his liver eaten out over and over again. In relevant terms with this Alien universe, perhaps whomever sat in that chair had to experience chest getting bursted over and over again. Tech repairing him for cause of spawning more and more. With no one to nest in, the crawlers cacooned waiting for a viable specimen.
Tears N. Reign
MemberOvomorphMay-16-2012 1:28 AMI had always suspected this was what was happening in the cacoon phase of Dallas. Not to create eggs per say. The xenomorph keeps a species alive just enough make use of its DNA, and host worthy organs.
Rawr
MemberOvomorphMay-16-2012 1:32 AMHe was a champion of mankind, known for his wily intelligence, who stole fire from Zeus and gave it to mortals.
Stole this substance and created humans or infected our ancestors to advance faster from however far we had evolved so far or something?
Tears N. Reign
MemberOvomorphMay-16-2012 1:32 AMWell, if it is a mutated Weyland, endeavor toward mortality. ... or a mutated David, probably deserves it.
Rawr
MemberOvomorphMay-16-2012 1:35 AMBut that's LV-426 with the chestbursted pilot, different planet/moon whatever the fuck they are.
abordoli
MemberOvomorphMay-16-2012 1:36 AMHow the eggs were made was left a mystery by RS. If he included the Dallas-scicle scene then JC couldn't have come behind him with queen and her ovipositor (well not as easily). To me, both methods of egg creation are possible, especially when we're dealing with aliens that mess with DNA.
Fortunately, Alien didn't exist in a vacuum. Aliens came along to give an explanation as to where the eggs in the derelict on LV-426 came from. They came from that Juggernauts "base/port" where they had a queen ovipositing them.
Now, was the queen being hovered in a cage inside the ship with an arm that moved her after every egg drop or was the queen in a facility outside the ship with her eggs going down a "conveyor belt" that reached inside the Juggernaut carefully placing them in their "pens"?
Quite possibly, we might see one of the two happening at the end of Prometheus?....Or not at all?
Rawr
MemberOvomorphMay-16-2012 1:44 AMI guess maybe the first xeno created from the substance grows into a queen somehow and like you said drops them down, its possible and explains how they got there.
CrazyDave55811
MemberOvomorphMay-16-2012 1:45 AMNow that I think about it, that substance which we see change everything in the Ampule Room is probably some highly advanced form of sperma, or whatever substance was used in panspermia (still a hypothesis, but plausible on some ways). Many have hypothesized that the Space Jockeys could terraform a planet in, like, the blink of an eye, and maybe this "sperma" was used in terraformations throughout the galaxy.
I don't know if this should be taken seriously because I'm tired and need to go to bed, and this is just something I thought up off the top of my head without realizing that someone else may have beat me to it. Besides, the Panspermia hypothesis is still a fresh topic to me that I need to conduct more research on.
abordoli
MemberOvomorphMay-16-2012 1:51 AMI like to think that the xeno has been around for millions of years (not far-fetched seeing that some animals on this planet have existed without much change for millions of years).
If we're discussing "What came first? The xeno queen or the egg?" then we might as well discuss "What came first? The chicken or the egg?" for the answers will be almost identical.
Rawr
MemberOvomorphMay-16-2012 1:57 AMI guess its just working out how it happened, i mean the movie is based on this prometheus myth right and we have the original SJ from Alien with a hole in his chest/stomach or whatever it obviously related to it imo.
Tears N. Reign
MemberOvomorphMay-16-2012 1:58 AMPerhaps "Not at all" abordoli. I don't expect to have the queen conundrum answered here in this film. I suspect the alien is a highly adaptable creature that can procreate with whatever DNA made available, yet once has enough of it's "own kind" developed as was the scenerio in "ALIENS" then a birthing gestation develops; hence, the queen premise made viable by James Camron's take on the subject.
Rawr
MemberOvomorphMay-16-2012 2:04 AMchampion of mankind, known for his wily intelligence
Maybe it's David after all, that description fits him wouldn't you say? Again depends how seriously they take the whole prometheus thing within the story.
Tears N. Reign
MemberOvomorphMay-16-2012 2:06 AMPerhaps not at all Abordoli, I have no expectation of having the queen conundrum answered in any RS version of this film franchise.
I suspect the ALIEN is a highly adaptable species that can procreate with any DNA resources available via hosting gestation. I assumed on JC premise that once enough of it's own kind were established then it evolved toward the queen gestatated replication. Even then it cacooned humans to harvest something from them, so let's keep speculating..
BigDave
MemberDeaconMay-16-2012 7:07 AMI think thew Xeno was either...
1) Created from near Scratch by the Jockeys.... or by using their special stuff on themselves...
2) Optained as a Lifeform from another world to study...
3) Combination of the two, they brought back a Organism and tried to make a new one out of its DNA.
I feel this is what killed off most of the Engineers and thus the Xeno exsisted prior to Prometheus.
I do think and hope they give some explanation to the Xeno, Egg and Derelict on LV426 at the end of the movie...
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