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The Hellbound Heart

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Galzu

MemberOvomorphMay-06-2012 8:50 PM
Im starting to get real Pinhead/Cenobite feel about this surviving jockey. In fact, in Clive Barker's original story, The Hellbound Heart, the lead Cenobite was called "The Engineer". In their earliest incarnations, the Cenobites practice, with a religious devotion, a supernatural form of hedonism, manifested through the expansion of sensation to an extremely painful point of sensory overload, and enduring excruciating pain through incessant tortures that transcend traditional laws of physics. Their leader is identified only as The Engineer, who in addition to overseeing the Order is also [b]responsible for the transformation of individuals into Cenobites.[/b] The Cenobites' form of "pleasure," and the realm in which they practice it, is simply so awful that it appears to be Hell to those unable to endure it. In Hellraiser, the lead Cenobite informs Kirsty Cotton that the Cenobites have been identified as both angels and demons by those they have encountered, and that the Cenobites merely see themselves as "explorers." They are completely amoral, their dedication to their lifestyle taking priority over any notions of right or wrong. Any Thoughts. Shaw: "Greetings from Earth." SJ: "We have such sights to show you!" Shaw "We were so wrong!"
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PROVO

MemberOvomorphMay-06-2012 9:21 PM
I tell you, he is a pinhead. They're capable of terrible mistakes, and they do suffer much. Anyway he's on his way out

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphMay-06-2012 9:22 PM
did you see Cabin In The Woods?

Zedwardson

MemberOvomorphMay-06-2012 9:22 PM
I doubt that RS borrowed from that book, but It would not surprise me if they went to the same well of ideas.

PROVO

MemberOvomorphMay-06-2012 9:27 PM
I saw Cabin in The Woods, yes

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphMay-06-2012 9:31 PM
amazing to see PInhead again, Have the Gorgeous TIN BOX collectors set of the original, Galzu is Dead Bang On The Money about all the books and that race of beings from Hell. I flipped, had no idea that was coming until he stepped into that elevator. I expected Sigourney though somehow by that point I think because I had just seen Paul a few times before seeing that...But it was cool to see the ending of that thing and Galzu raises a very interesting yet kinda humorous but IMO a none the less plausible type possibility. [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/1a1alienhr.jpg[/img]

sukkal

MemberOvomorphMay-07-2012 1:08 AM
All I can say is that I REALLY HOPE that the Engineers are [u]not[/u] modeled on the Cenobites. I see signs that the Engineers are actually the victims of their own process of "overreaching" in embracing the "xeno seed" in their endeavors. It is not clear to me if the Engineer civilization (or a subset of their civilization) created the xenos (and/or the xeno 'equivalents' in Prometheus) from scratch or if they simply tried to re-engineer them in some way that went (horribly??) wrong. CLEARLY, their motives are questionable (by human standards) one way or the other, but I'm very hopeful that (in the vein of [i]Blade Runner[/i]) the story is more complex than it appears in the trailers.

Ruhaniya

Veteran MemberMemberOvomorphMay-07-2012 1:12 AM
I guess it's not like putting on a new pair of genes cause you got a hot date with a she-devil.
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