Gem]n[
MemberOvomorphApr-23-2012 6:36 AMThat room Dave is the Hologram room I reckon ... I'm going by the door shape and the RAMP that's dead opposite and she's kneeling upon ... this image is also reversed (swapped round) in some of the magazine articles ;) ...
snailmaster
MemberOvomorphApr-23-2012 7:31 AMthe more i see picts of prometheus the more it looks like a remake of planet of the vampires.. ( wich is not a bad thing) even the spacesuits look alike!!
Spartacus
MemberOvomorphApr-23-2012 7:37 AMIf there is any "Teen Angst" what so ever in this film and especially over "The Tragic and Difficult Life of a Vampire Race" I will in fact be a bit disappointed...LMAO. also I find it STAGGERING that there is a breathable Earth type atmosphere in there trust worthy enough at a moments instrumental reading to permit the crew to remove their helmets, all the same if it were me knowing this info..There's NO WAY in hell I am taking off that space helmet.
BigDave
MemberDeaconApr-23-2012 8:00 AMYes maybe it could be the room with the Star Map, just because we see David in their alone does not mean that Shaw is not in their aswell.
Now playing Sherlock again this has got me joining up clues...
This scene may be after the one where Shaw is in that corridor with the SJ suits on the Wall. She could be looking at David as he opens a Door that leads to the Star Map Room. She then sits down and talks to David about what they have found.
David then sets off the Star Map, finds out about the Earth etc.
In one scene we see the Space Jockey walking in back ground as David is pre occupied with the Star Chart.
Where is Shaw at this time, if she is in the room at the start with David, maybe she wonders off somewhere and does not notice the Space Jockey.
Maybe this image above and the one with Shaw infront of the SJ suits are scenes near each other, that leads to the David in star chart Room with SJ walking up to him scene.
Maybe it attacks David which is when Shaw does a runner, and thus leads to the "we was so wrong scene"
Who knows? I cant wait to find out the answers.
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Spartacus
MemberOvomorphApr-23-2012 8:02 AMyea, the trailers really did end up creating more questions than answers for us all.
CanadaPhil
MemberOvomorphApr-23-2012 8:08 AMYes.. she is on the Turntable RAMP... and that image has been in the MEDIA section forever.
BigDave
MemberDeaconApr-23-2012 8:12 AMOh regarding the Planet of the Vampires i have never seen that movie, i will have a look at getting it.
But i notice a few things... that do look like a cross between this movie and Alien.... maybe Ridley like Lucas had a idea of how the Alien movie came to be along time before Aliens etc.
Like how Lucas must have had the ideas for SW EP1-3 before 4-6 thus many touches and mentions like the clone wars in EP 4.
could Ridley had taken influence from Planet of the Vampires?
The space suits look simular, they look more like POV than the Alien ones.
[img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_79dtyfnDCqI/TTXRMke9lFI/AAAAAAAAAKc/9YL8KoxgrKA/s1600/planet+of+the+vampires+1.PNG[/img]
This looks simular to the Derelict?
[img]http://livingwithanerd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/planet-of-the-vampires-2.jpg[/img]
Dead Jockey from Alien.... but this guy looks human but same size as SJ in Alien?
[img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT7MqMMQIq2x3tXCasQWACUM8I5kYYhz0s4LOm6rVfh0a66E6E8bldzVVUH[/img]
Simular to the tunnels in Prometheus and Derelict ship only not Bio Mechanical looking?
[img]http://www.b-movies.gr/UserFiles/Image/planet%20of%20the%20vampires/planet%20of%20the%20vampires%209.jpg[/img]
They open a door at the end of one corridor and find a room with rocks and a dead body,..... simular to the Dead Space Jockey in Prometheus scene?
[img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a9V8a7WTTz0/TDcRwLJDBiI/AAAAAAAABMg/xkBuEx72Dq8/s1600/planetvampires.png[/img]
Someone with some kind of infection on their faces.... like Holloway and Fifields infections?
[img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_HWhYup01zdk/TEjqf_znfiI/AAAAAAAAAZ0/SSziYob_86s/s1600/Planet+of+Vampires+4.png[/img]
Now i have not scene that movie, just looking now at the images and some do have simularaties.
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Mark Cawley
MemberOvomorphApr-23-2012 8:28 AMThe original pic of shaw at the top......there IS another of her in the same place but with 2 Jockey suits behind her.
BigDave
MemberDeaconApr-23-2012 8:35 AMsorry if this has been posted before....
"While exploring Aura, Wes (Ángel Aranda) discovers the ruins of a spaceship a few miles from the Argos. Markary, Sanya (Norma Bengell), and Carter (Ivan Rassimov) investigate. Inside the ship, they discover large skeletal remains of the long dead crew and thus realize that they are not the first ones to have been drawn to the planet by the distress beacon."
[b]Well that sounds simular to Aliens Derelict scene and first part of Alien Plot?
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"Two crew members of the Galliott, Kier (Federico Boido) and Sallis (Massimo Righi), arrive at the Argos to steal the ship’s Meteor Rejector device"
[b]so they steal something that belonged to the crashed ship of a dead big guy, like Prometheus with us stealing the Space Jockeys Tech?[/b]
"Markary tears open Sallis’ uniform, exposing his putrescent body. He learns that Sallis' corpse is being manipulated by an Auran,"
[b]Well we have a suit tear scene where some organism gets inside and manipulates Fifield.[/b]
"Auran, who reveals that the two ships were lured to the planet in order for the Aurans to escape from their dying world. With the crew of the Galliott under their complete control, they plan to use the ship to escape to the humans' home planet. Markary vows to stop them"
[b]Again could this tie into the clues left for us a Trap in Prometheus where in this movie the Engineers are the Auran[/b]
"Markary and his crew rush to the Galliott to retrieve the Meteor Rejector. They are successful, and manage to place explosives in the ship. During a struggle with the Aurans, Dr. Karan (Fernando Villeña) and Tiona are killed. Markary and Sanya return to the Argos and manage to escape as the Galliott is destroyed. After takeoff, however, they reveal themselves to be possessed by Aurans. They ask Wes, the last survivor, to join them. Wes refuses and tries to sabotage the Meteor Rejector, but fatally electrocutes himself while doing so. Because the device has been broken beyond repair, Markary and Sanya decide to change course to a nearby planet: Earth."
[b]Again while not the same, their are simularities... Maybe like the above teh Space Jockey are trying to get to Earth, but some how their ship is sabataged and damaged and can only make it as far as LV426[/b]
In Planet of the Vampires, the Aurans infect the humans so they die, so as that when they are dead the Aurans can use their boddies, as the Auran race is dying/dead and they need Humans so they can live on.
Maybe thats why the Space Jockey need Humans in Prometheus, maybe this could point to the Space Jockeys being whats in the Urns or the actual Worms themselves.
The movie POV also starts off as having two craft on a mission....
"Two huge interplanetary ships on an expedition into deep uncharted space receive a distress signal emanating from Aura, an unexplored planet. Both ships, the Galliott and the Argos"
Could this be simular to the Project Prometheus as dont forget that Prometheus ship is not the only once launched under the Prometheus project/mission another ship went on a mission many years prior.
Did that ship have Weyland on? Did Weyland become the first victim of the Alien DNA/Bio Form that is the Space Jockeys? Could it be that Weyland is thus the Space Jockey in this movie.
Maybe i am reading into the plot of Planet of the Vampires and comparing it to maybe getting some answers to Prometheus... Maybe there is nothing to it and no connection/influence?
Maybe just a suptile one such as Alien, has a crashed ship with large skeletal remains of a Alien being and a distress signal that gets Humans to land on the planet and vistit said ship....
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BigDave
MemberDeaconApr-23-2012 8:37 AM@Mark Cawley
Agreed i already mentioned that i feel both images are taken from scenes that directly connect to each other.
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db
MemberOvomorphApr-23-2012 11:27 AMShaw could be on the ramp to the turntable (SJ chair area) as previously mentioned.
But what if she's near the platforms that contained the SJ statues (or suits), like before in that hallway shot of her. Notice anything missing from the platform next to her?
Could spell trouble.
CanadaPhil
MemberOvomorphApr-23-2012 11:34 AMNope... She is clearly on the ramp located on the right hand side of the turntable.
What you are referring to is the passageway DIRECTLY BEHIND her. That right side entrance matches up directly with the RAMP.
[img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/uploads/prometheus_production3.jpg[/img]
Shane
MemberOvomorphApr-23-2012 11:36 AMPlanet of the Vampires is in youtube. It should be watched by all fans of alien and those looking for prometheus stuff. mario bava rules.
enceladus_is_alive
MemberOvomorphApr-23-2012 12:43 PMmovie makers can superimose images over each other. The water fall scence may be another example. We dont know if this is strictly for marketing or an actual shot from the final movie cut. We wont know until...
BigDave
MemberDeaconApr-23-2012 1:13 PMYeah those two images of shaw are linked together, i would image the one with the SJs Suits in back ground is before the one where she kneels on something near a controll room or something.
so what if that scene shows her face as a Door opens or she first spots the Room with the Star Map etc, then she goes into that room with David and thus we get the other shot in this thread.
David activates the Star Map and one of those SJ suits in the halls leading to that room, comes to life. takes off its mask and then comes into the Star Map Room?
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artyoh
MemberOvomorphApr-23-2012 2:18 PMI think both shots of Rapace are posed, promotional images, not frame captures from the film itself. It is funny how similar the suits are, right down to the red piping.
Gem]n[
MemberOvomorphApr-23-2012 2:19 PMOh hell Dave ... now you got me goin down the 'SJ's could be Droids' route lol ...
Is that what ya on about? ... the suits be totally automatic? (robotish) ... as in no lifeform needed inside to actually work? ... but with lifeform they enhance the abilities? ... :) ...
CanadaPhil
MemberOvomorphApr-23-2012 2:32 PMSo are we talking DALEK then?... with a little Squidbilly inside??
Oh hell NO !!
: P
Seriously though.... I was going to add this to one of my old topics later, but food for thought...
What if the hanging "suits" are in effect EMPY incubator shells were newly "birthed" ummm Jockey "eels" are deposited into to form into new full size Jockeys? Thats why they are just down from the end of the ramp.. so that they are close at hand when new seat "refills" are required.
beyondthebloodplain
MemberOvomorphApr-23-2012 4:36 PMShaw wears the "survival suit" with orange piping.
To her left, we see the "goody bag" that many before me have suggested contains something stolen from the Engineers by Prometheus crew.
In the UK trailer, we see Shaw jump from a ship (escape pod?) exit holding the "goody bag".
I suggest this scene shows Shaw on her way to unmake a mistake, post "Prometheus" destruction...
takka_takka_takka
MemberOvomorphApr-24-2012 3:07 AM"as dont forget that Prometheus ship is not the only once launched under the Prometheus project/mission another ship went on a mission many years prior"
Uh, source?