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The who's right and who's WRONG thread!...

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Cervantes

MemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 8:15 PM
Okay, after weeks and weeks of reading some amazingly inventive conjecture and speculation (as well as a few ridiculous notions, frankly) on this forum...one of the things I'm greatly looking forward to, is finding out WHICH ideas are correct, and which have been totally WRONG!... So I'd like those of you with strong opinions (or hopes/fears) about anything that you're personally CONVINCED about, to lay them out here for everyone to see... Please join in, as it's just a bit of fun, and it'll be interesting to compare how near the mark or otherwise you are to what the writers/makers have ACTUALLY come up with for Prometheus... Let me start this off with my own specific beliefs in no particular order - 1. ALIEN was a genuine 10/10 movie experience at the time for me, and I reckon the PG-13 'theatrical' cut will turn out to be at least a 9/10 experience, with the inevitable harder-edged 'Director's Cut' on Blu-ray adding an extra notch to this score...which will be a little frustrating as I'd have liked to have seen ALL of it on the big screen in the first place! 2. I reckon the entire Shaw/squirming 'squid birth' scene is going to be almost as memorable, and gruesomely horrible as ALIEN's 'chestburster' sequence was... 3. I reckon that the 'derelict' craft seen in the trailers is NOT the one that's seen in ALIEN...and that we'll see more than one of them in this movie... 4. I reckon that it is indeed the BIG BALD FELLAH that ends up sitting in the seat wearing the 'space jockey' suit and helmet...although he's NOT the 'chestbursted' one that's discovered in ALIEN... 5. I reckon we'll also see a very different race of 'aliens' compared to whatever the BIG BALD FELLAH is...but it WON'T be the 'xenomorphs' we've seen in the previous movies... 6. I reckon the 'ampule' urns are a specific container for 'bio-weapon' material which can be used to 'seed' various planets with...which are capable of creating OR exterminating life on them, depending on the objective at the time...and contain different 'DNA' from various unknown species collected from other worlds in them... ([i]in addition, I reckon that SOME of the urn containers may contain the 'DNA' mixtures of more than one species in them, to make something new...and some may contain actual living species in their early stage of life, such as the fully-formed 'young' creature that 'David' pulls out of one of the containers...[/i]) 7. I reckon these 'ampule' urns are a SEPERATE kind of thing altogether compared to the leathery 'eggs' containing 'face-huggers' that we saw in the previous movies...and do NOT 'morph' into 'eggs' in any way... ([i]in addition, I reckon that the 'xenomorph' eggs seen in ALIEN were in the process of being transported towards the acual planet in the PROMETHEUS movie, rather than 'Earth'...as they were just another species that were intended to be added to the Space-Jockey's 'ampule' urn 'armory' at the time, until something went wrong wrong for the 'pilot' who had to ditch nearby on a seperate planet... And the 'warning' signal that went out was purely for the benefit of other 'Space Jockeys'![/i]) 8. I reckon 'Vickers' turns out to be an 'android', just as 'David' is... 9. I reckon a now elderly 'Wayland' and personal 'security guards' are onboard...but this is initially kept from the majority of the 'Prometheus' crew... 10. I reckon the giant 'head' is more than just a static, unmoving object...and may move to reveal somewhere hidden... 11. I reckon that the 'infected' crewmember that mutates will NOT turn into the BIG BALD FELLA... I2. I reckon that this movie's events occur on a totally DIFFERENT planet compared to the one the 'Nostromo' investigates in ALIEN... 13. I reckon that Shaw's 'squid' will grow/change into something much larger and truly terrifying... 14. I reckon that if there ISN'T something much larger and truly terrifying compared to Shaw's 'squid' and the BIG BALD FELLA...then I'll be disappointed.... 15. I reckon this movie will NOT neatly tie up all the events exactly leading up to the 'space jockey' suit that's found 'chestbursted' in ALIEN...and that there'll be a few new mysterious questions by the end of this movie...but that they could all be answered in the SEQUEL! Okay, that's my thoughts on this, so I'll be interested in yours... :)
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Constealltion88

MemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 8:19 PM
I'M RIGHT. whats this about again?

allinamberclad

MemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 8:28 PM
I am instinctively certain and have no shadow of doubt in my mind whatsoever, that you are quite terribly and terrifyingly wrong in every single thing. I don't believe I need to see your list of Terrible Wrongness to know that, so you may choose to save your time - or put it to use for greater reward.

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 8:29 PM
#1- If the SJ suite opens up and anything resembling a human being or android comes out of it, anything less than a terrifying hideous monster like no human being could ever conceive or look like...I am walking out !!! #2- If the ship on LV-426 turns out to be any ship other than the Derelict from Alien, I am walking out and giving up on Ridley Scott. #3-If the creature which we clearly see infecting crew members is not related in some small way at the least to the XENOMORPH in Alien I am going to commit suicide. Disclaimer: The truth is I believe completely in Ridley Scott and am so excited that whatever he decided to do I will be fine with...My answer is Who cares, what does it matter, whatever he does will be Perfect I am sure!!! and I love the man so much as I do Giger that I will accept whatever they did as GOLD !!! Opinions as we all know are like a-holes...we all have one...and they mean shit.

belladonna

MemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 8:42 PM
well i'm a woman so i'm right about everything and all men are wrong. [img]http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/65495_700b.jpg[/img]
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Svanya

AdminPraetorianApr-14-2012 8:43 PM
^ love it, ty Bella. :D

craigamore

MemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 8:49 PM
Nice Spartacus....niiiice

NCC 1701

Veteran MemberMemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 8:51 PM
Bella , like i said ,,,,,, you are Yacky Tonight

belladonna

MemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 8:55 PM
@ Svanya thanks! @ncc1701 vodka ^_^
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Spartacus

MemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 8:57 PM
@Belladona...I have the comeback of the year for your last picture post... [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/fish.jpg[/img]

NCC 1701

Veteran MemberMemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 8:59 PM
Right on

belladonna

MemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 9:00 PM
........ but i would totally steal your fish >:)
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Spartacus

MemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 9:00 PM
[quote]........ but i would totally steal your fish >:)[/quote] I kinda figured as much...lmfao.

belladonna

MemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 9:08 PM
well yeah my dinner isnt going to catch itself, lol.
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Cervantes

MemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 9:20 PM
Okay, I've now added in all my thoughts to my original post...and will be interested to see how many I got right or wrong come the time. I promise not to 'edit' my points in any way, lol. And as I'm from the U.K. I'll get to see the movie a few days before many of you...but I also promise to not give any 'spoilers' away come the time.

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 9:25 PM
@Cervantes...I really like #6 and stay tuned for my 2nd comeback to that @belladonna

Svanya

AdminPraetorianApr-14-2012 9:31 PM
@Constealltion88; OH MY GOD! I just realized your avatar was a veggie Xeno! That's, that's.... AWESOME! @__@

db

MemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 9:33 PM
Cervantes, I apologize on behalf of all face slapping/fish stealing members who hijacked your thread. It was a great attempt and I for one appreciate it's intent. I just don't have any strong opinions to share.

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 9:39 PM
@Bellladona [b]"{From Klingon} yyo mnaeri eihwai veS"[/b] [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/1a1klingon.gif[/img]

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 9:41 PM
nice Highjack db! I 2nd what he said...but I read everything you wrote and loved #6 as mentioned.

Cervantes

MemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 9:51 PM
@ db - glad you liked the intent, even if you don't seem to have come to any strong conclusions of your own. Not even one?... I remember quite a few around here DID though...so I thought they might like to list the particular ones they believed/or wished for, in one place for future reference.

enceladus_is_alive

MemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 9:57 PM
I reckon we're from two different universes.

Biehn_Bandit

MemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 10:02 PM
I'll have to make my own thread to fit all the things I'll be right about, hehe The different planet thing has already been proven. Then there is also: Xenomorph already exists, different ship, Alien secreted resin from previous films is important, two different alien races in violent conflict, Shaw performs surgery on herself, a terrible creature we haven't seen yet, blue guy is practical not "evil," humans are the threat that needs to be stopped, Janek's O face is in response to some alien menace or violence and not from crashing into ship. Sooo...we'll see.

db

MemberOvomorphApr-14-2012 10:04 PM
I just want to see something I haven't seen before. Sic-fi is so played out nowadays it's tough to get something based in original thought into a film. If anyone can deliver though, Ridley Scott can.

StarbeastEngineer0001

MemberOvomorphApr-15-2012 2:56 AM
I'm only going to post this here and possibly as a new thread so it's more "clean" and somewhat "unrevealing". Here's what we know so far (WARNING: POTENTIAL SPOILERS AHEAD) 1) Millions of years ago, a race of domineering, creative and intelligent beings swept the galaxy, seeding life. One of these planets was Earth, were they were worshipped as Gods. [i]These are The Engineers[/i]-first known as the "[i]Space Jockey[/i]s" from Ridley Scott's 1979 film. [img]http://www.google.ca/imgres?um=1&hl=en&biw=1366&bih=643&tbm=isch&tbnid=wRiGXO2zhzUswM:&imgrefurl=http://www.empireonline.com/features/prometheus-trailer-breakdown-2/p2&docid=lPLJbpyMkVlRSM&imgurl=http://www.empireonline.com/images/uploaded/newprometheus2.jpg&w=775&h=330&ei=YHKKT87QGIaviQKUmNTLCw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=233&vpy=386&dur=542&hovh=146&hovw=344&tx=223&ty=131&sig=104580844108080671746&page=1&tbnh=76&tbnw=179&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:13,s:0,i:92[/img] http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rzdB5a4kLAo/TPQr1GxS5NI/AAAAAAAAW_A/UzwwAR8kKwo/s1600/5733896.jpg 2) Archaeologists Elizabeth Shaw and Charlie Holloway find a star map in a cave in upper Scotland pertaining to "Ancient Beings" who were from another part of the universe in a distant star system. [i] This is Zeta Reticulli. [/i] http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/7831636/img/Prometheus-Trailer/vlcsnap-2012-03-17-22h00m14s220.png 3) Several years later, the USCSS [i]Prometheus[/i] makes its way into the star system after putting together an expedition to travel to the planet and learn from our "Alien Gods"-[i]The Engineers[/i]-about our past and the beginning of life on Earth. http://illuminatiwatcher.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/tas.jpg 4) The crew consists of 17 people-including Shaw, Holloway, Captain Janek, Botanist Milburn, Utility expert and technician Fifield, Weyland Industries corporate representative (and slithery overseer) Meredith Vickers, and the ship's android, David. http://bestmoviesevernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Prometheus-2012-Movie-Image11-e1332051189391.jpg 5) The ship lands, and the scientists and explorers make their way inside a large Engineer temple (one of several) where they encounter a biomechanical system, a large chamber with a humanoid stone monolith, and hundreds of ampules/urns. David takes some back to the ship and interacts with them- http://a69.g.akamai.net/n/69/10688/v1/img5.allocine.fr/acmedia/medias/nmedia/18/89/63/98/20059317.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ac0-dIESHY4/Tu-jQ_E2NNI/AAAAAAAAAQ8/OBTO7EudP2U/s1600/prometheus_teaser_13.jpg http://www.google.ca/imgres?um=1&hl=en&biw=1366&bih=600&tbm=isch&tbnid=AHwhB1ihFBJsyM:&imgrefurl=http://tumblr.firstshowing.net/post/19551664584&docid=Q29OrzJxjrSwBM&imgurl=http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/dailytrailers/19551664584/1/tumblr_m1408zTfya1qjaa1t&w=1000&h=469&ei=THaKT4uwM-bMiQKs4tyuCw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=232&vpy=293&dur=1050&hovh=154&hovw=328&tx=215&ty=57&sig=104580844108080671746&page=1&tbnh=70&tbnw=149&start=0&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:0,i:81 [i]"Big things have small beginnings"[/i] 6) Unexpectedly, it turns out they aren't the only ones there, and are soon fighting for their lives when the Engineers discover human infiltration. They decide to unleash punishment upon them. Somehow, various crew members are either infected with some type of virus that does one of two things: http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/prometheus-movie-image.jpg http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii283/Evilqtl_2007/Misc/xlarge_scream.jpg 1. It either turns them into an engineer.. 2) Or it mutates their genome and alters their DNA and they become something else. Whatever they are, it's more horrific and brutal. [i]Instead of finding answers from angels about their beginning, they've been ruined by demons.[/i] http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vNv_D8rEkzg/TvJo3n1yKSI/AAAAAAAAAV8/1-q79kzagOY/s1600/prometheus_teaser_3_14.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5ZXc5.png 7) Chaos reigns around the Prometheus. People shoot at each other with some sort of futuristic pistol. Vickers (and Janek) sport flamethrowers, and Shaw gets swept up in some gigantic dust cloud that envelopes the ship. http://i.imgur.com/bLCwG.jpg http://www.empireonline.com/images/uploaded/newprometheus44.jpg http://www.prometheusnews.net/wp-content/uploads/PrometheusMoviePromoShot_650.jpg 8) Shaw gets infected/pregnant and gives birth to something horrible and nasty. Meanwhile, the (Elder?) Engineer decides to launch his ship and bring the[i] "wrath of the Gods to Earth"[/i] (I liked that analogy another user posted). Unfortunately for both parties, it`s not going to make it there http://www.geeksofdoom.com/GoD/img/2012/04/2012-04-04-birth-533x615.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZqKYa87t79c/T2frjPTgzrI/AAAAAAAAA8M/fMULenycIXA/s1600/prometheus_tv_spot_1_00037.png http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/prometheus-movie-image-cockpit.jpg 9) Amidst the destruction, Shaw becomes a warrior and Vickers sheds her skin.. http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2011/12/22/prometheus-trailer-1.jpg http://theshootening.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/prometheus94.jpeg?w=450&h=187 That's all I'm going to write-I don't want to spoil the fun, and I'm probably going to go dark soon. But I'll be back after the release with a review and some considerations! [i]And don't trust the Weyland Corporation...[/i]

StarbeastEngineer0001

MemberOvomorphApr-15-2012 2:57 AM
Deleted double post-Cypher

Cervantes

MemberOvomorphApr-15-2012 6:43 AM
@ [b]StarbeastEngineer0001[/b] - thanks for going to the effort of that lengthy extrapolation/roundup from the various trailers/info. we have seen and read so far. I've taken note of a couple of little speculations of your own that you've also thrown in there. But I'd certainly like to hear your other opinions here too, as unless you've been privy to the actual production details, then your additional thoughts are just further speculation like everyone else's here, inclulding mine. Go on, stick 'em up for analysis... @ [b]Spartacus -[/b] I cetainly lol'd at your 1st post on the previous page Sparty, and I just hope we all end up loving whatever storyline Ridley ends up giving us...even if it's not the actual one we may have preferred... By the way, I'm glad that you especially like the 6th speculation in my list...and I've actually elaborated on it now in my original post, if you care to have a look. ...and I've also expanded my 7th speculation now too...but as I don't recall it ever been suggested yet, I'm going to start a whole new thread to discuss the possibility...

StarbeastEngineer0001

MemberOvomorphApr-15-2012 2:57 AM
Third time's the charm man-Cypher

Duke

MemberOvomorphApr-15-2012 5:16 AM
The waterfall/saucer is in the opening sequence of the film. The big blue guys are actually ok, not bad guys. And Vickers is the second skin job. Oh, pardon me, artificial person . . .

WhyDontTheyFreezeHim

MemberOvomorphApr-15-2012 5:26 AM
I wonder what that "Vickers shedding her skin" is all about?..... EDIT: @Duke - I think she is without doubt an android or something else under that "suit".

kellicotti

MemberOvomorphApr-15-2012 8:02 AM
I don't know what's right, and I certainly don't want to be right with any of my speculations, I want to be surprised. IN fact, I need to ban myself from this site, it's addicting! And I think we're all going to ruin our own movie experience (assuming we're right; I hope NONE of us are). One thing I do know is that the squid in the arm scene is NOT going to be the money-making shot (as chest burster was). Why? BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE FAIR. RS WOULDN'T DO THAT! Save the best for the film :) Also, I think that Weyland is on board and that the guy with the black goo in the beginning of the trailer is him...and the dead SJ in the chair is him. Maybe why they merged with Yutani, they needed someone else to take the helm (not sure if this was discussed already, but that's just my thought...again, I'm probably wrong). F*&k I hope we are all wrong.
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