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Interesting blog column, and possible origin of the name "Space Jockey"

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John D.

MemberOvomorphApr-12-2012 11:46 PM
Apologies if this has been seen already. This is a page about the Space Jockey, from a U.K. blog about the Alien films. The writer discusses the different artists' concepts of the Jockey, and how the name was apparently first coined in one of the David Giler/Walter Hill rewrites of O'Bannon's script. Here is the link: http://alienseries.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/space-jockeying-part-1-pilot.html Something of particular note here is the fact that in early versions of the "Alien" script, [i]the astronauts take the skull of the space jockey back to their ship to study it.[/i] Sound familiar?
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MarcoBot1234

MemberOvomorphApr-13-2012 12:23 AM
Great find thx! The rewrite of the initial screenplay changed the space jockey into a crashed human ship. If Ridley hadn't decided to change his mind last minute and go back to the original space jockey idea we wouldn't have any basis for Prometheus to this day! Mind blown

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Co-AdminMemberOvomorphApr-13-2012 12:30 AM
Giger seemed to be 'okay' with the results, although he wanted to work on it more.
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Ashmodean

MemberOvomorphApr-13-2012 12:32 AM
And if Giger's parents used a condom we wouldn't have any of this. I can see the republican's point about birth control now. (just kidding thats a horrible horrible thing to say)

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MemberOvomorphApr-13-2012 12:37 AM
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ZetaReticuli

MemberOvomorphApr-13-2012 2:27 AM
Get 'air-jockey' underpants, socks and bags at juicy fruit fm - here we go again - please jettison this pleb.

ZetaReticuli

MemberOvomorphApr-13-2012 2:29 AM
Sorry John D, that wasn't aimed at you, lol. Good find there. I love all the trivia from the early days. Note that the description reads 'mummified' and not 'fossilised', the former I've always found a more accurate description of the SJ.

Shane

MemberOvomorphApr-13-2012 3:07 AM
I love the amount Ridley is going back to ideas he didnt have the budget or the chance to do. I think it is one of my very favourite things about this movie.

Ashmodean

MemberOvomorphApr-13-2012 3:13 AM
" Note that the description reads 'mummified' and not 'fossilised', the former I've always found a more accurate description of the SJ. " I agree. Everyone is hung up on the crew saying "fossilised" but they arent archeologists, their just space-truckers.

BigDave

MemberDeaconApr-13-2012 7:26 AM
Here we go again, try and keep it smaller this time.. and hope this post apears and not vanish.... Indeed it looks like they could be using elements of the orginal script for Alien, with elements of Gigers Art Work and his unused work on Dune. It would apear that those ideas when all mixed together and connecting with Alien would make the Prequal... I think that Ridley then changed the script to add elements based on the Ancient Astronaught and Prometheus Myth, to give a back bone story behind the Jockeys. Other than what little was known and based on the orginal script, Alien movie and other apearences in comics etc. So as to add the element that these SJ are a race that go around Teraforming Worlds and then creating life on them, or altering indigenous life with their DNA or their Bio-Former Technology. The orginal script for Alien had a lot of elements of Prometheus... Temple, Engineer Space Ship, Engineer Race, the Urns..... and descriped the Space Jockeys being killed off by the indigenous organisms... but is that the orginal organisms or ones they created via experiements/Bio-Forming the indigenous lifeforms... If they used their Bio-Formers to maybe create us from Apes, we can be cruel and evil and warlike... But maybe doing the same but with the indigenous lifeforms on that planet creates something thats far worse. This would sugest that the Xeno or some kind of Proto Xeno existed before Alien Movie and indeed before the Prometheus Crew landed, and that would explain the dead Space Jockeys as surely something more than a Worm killed them, i mean it takes some organism to rip off the head of a 10ft Bieng.

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BigDave

MemberDeaconApr-13-2012 7:32 AM
As far as the Jockey being Evil.... Well would you consider if you was a Chimp, or Guinea Pig or Rat, that is being experimented on by us, be that Gene Research, or testing of Chemicals and Products. What we do to those animals would be considered inhumane if we did it on other people. But its not seen that way, because well we are the superior race. If we created a Hybrid Animal via experiements the Scientists would consider us able to do what we want as its our creation. Much like we did with this Mouse. [img]http://thetruthsyndicate.com/files/2010/11/mouseear.jpg[/img] If sucsessfull and we use those parts grown on the mouse, what do we do with the mouse after? Put it in a cage give it a wheel... i dont think so. And thats how the Jockeys would see us. Is what we do with that mouse, or other animals used for reasearch seen by all Mankind as a act of Evil? Does that make all Mankind Evil? Thats my view on the Jockey, they may seem Evil to us, but to them we are just creations or experiments and they are the superior race (Gods).

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Ashmodean

MemberOvomorphApr-13-2012 8:57 AM
We're all just ear-mice!

belladonna

MemberOvomorphApr-13-2012 9:07 AM
poor mouse. id rather be missing my ear, or even both ears then want scientists to do that to an animal for no purpose but my vanity. grow your friggin hair out to cover up your ear holes!
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Dropyourlinen

MemberOvomorphApr-13-2012 12:10 PM
Pardon?

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MemberOvomorphApr-13-2012 12:16 PM
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belladonna

MemberOvomorphApr-13-2012 6:57 PM
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