Is Ridley Scott sexist?51 RepliesAdd A Reply
It is time we men spoke up for ourselves. For too long, men have been given shallow roles, needing to be rescued by the smarter, tougher, more pragmatic women. It is unfair, unright, ungood, and unacceptable. Look at how men are portrayed in the original Alien--dim (Brett), lazy (Parker), lazy and dim (Dallas), or even British! (Kane and Ash). This blatant sexism has to stop. It reinforces stereotypes that have damaged men for generations. I fear we will see more dim, lazy and British men in Prometheus. Act now! Tell Scott his old fashion views have no place in 2012 or 2087!
In real life it would be men kicking ass and the split asses running scared
I recall the natural order was restored when the girl got in the way of the predator frizzbie in avp2. One for mysogyny. Chauvinism etc
This is intersting. My wife thinks it's hilarious because I get worked up with the constant stereotyping of the imcompetent male in movies, shows, and ESPECIALLY in commercials. It's annoying to those of us who hold our own, and then some, to keep our society moving forward. Ahhh.....gotta stop here lol
And also Kane being raped! That's outrageous! We (men) are tired of being treated like goods!
@Syphonox Yes! Commercials are the worst! My personal favorites growing up were ones for board games, usually with the family gathered around . . . the Dad/husband/boyfriend always loses. Like he's just too stupid to keep up with the wife and kids. Too funny.
That's why to counter-balance, I will be hitting the bar for some beer, whiskey and cigars with my buddies, then head to the theater to catch Expendables 2. :-)
lol. They changed the title of my post. Too manly for them. Okay, I understand.
I mean, I can't watch [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rkdTcQLwZ4]this trailer[/url] without saying "f**ckin' A". :-)
@Membrane That is the shit. And no more of this governor stuff for Arnie. He's back where he belongs.
You're not serious. You can't be. Let me just say this: With the character of Ellen Ripley RS was the very first director in movie-history who established a female action hero. I can't overemphasis this achievement. Before Alien, women in action/horror/sf-movies are just helpless, screaming sex-objects to be saved and protected by the male hero, totally unable to care for themselves let alone being able to make the right decisions in dangerous situations. Sadly, this clichee lives on and on in modern movies and I am SO SICK OF IT, because it has absolutely nothing to do with real life. On the other hand I'm well aware that even in 2012 there are males existing in real life, that still find helpless, screaming sex-objects in movies entertaining.
dallas!dallas! - and similar to the discussions about the rating for 'Prometheus', there were grumblings about hearing 'Expendables 2' would be PG-13. After Stallone initially saying the rumors about it being PG-13 were true, there was a tremendous backlash, which caused him to come back and say it will be R. I wonder how 'Prometheus' will hash the rating stuff out. And I'll leave you with this gem from Stallone about the movie... "this Barbeque of Grand scale Ass Bashing will not leave anyone hungry".
from cerebral scfi to kick ass numbskull summer popcorn in one fell swoop amazing.
@keepshowkeeper Lighten up, Francis. lol. But on a serious note, I would disagree that the cliche (one e) lives on and on. Resident Evil, Underworld, any flick with Angelina Jolie . . . since Alien, the kick-ass woman has become something of a cliche itself. Although, I would say that Hollywood can't seem to make a really good sci-fi/horror/action flick with kick-ass heroines. Actually, the same goes for ones with kick-ass men. At least, we're equal on that count.
@alteredstate You may think Prometheus is numbskull summer popcorn fare but I would disagree. Look deeper.
lol Dallas im hinting at the expendables as your well aware i'm sure.
Coming to a bargain basement sale / charity shop near you next spring.
dallas!dallas!, I think he's referring to me bringing up 'Expendables 2'. Is that correct alteredstate? I would assume that's not your kind of movie then based on your comment. :-)
i can watch them i just wait till channel 5 has a marathon macho night which is about once a month here lol.
alteredstate, even funnier (when thinking about expendables) is that Stallone wanted to play Edgar Allen Poe, I mean seriously wanted to write, direct and star in a bio-pic about Poe. And you know what, I would actually pay to see that.
A true "numbskull" movie is 'The Three Stooges', opening tomorrow. :-) (alright, I'm done with bringing other movies up)
@membrane Yeah, I got it, but hey, how can anyone not love Van Damme? It just makes no sense.
Its not just Scott!! For the love of God man, they BENT HARRISON FORD OVER A PINBALL MACHINE with that Cystal Skunk movie! Over a Pinball Machine I tellz yah !!! : P
@ Canada Phil LOL. But hey, at least we have Shia Lebouf to carry on Ford's legacy. And now to work . . .
Yeah, Totally agree! Women should go back to be between a fist and a stove. Women are like Facehuggers, their only purpose is breeding. Women can't drive cars, why do I see women drive succesfully cars in movies, escapes me! Ok, all this was pure sarcasm, and my views are almost exactly the opposite. But I hope all you others were being sarcastic too. Cheers
Oh my... USHBUCK would have loved this topic, its INTENSITY...
You scared me there for a second Ghorgul.....but seriously, can't we just come to a point where people accept that there are capable members of both sexes just as htere are complete and total morons of both sexes and...guess what....shit happens and sometimes guys look stupid, sometimes women look stupid in film because THOSE CHARACTERS HAPPEN TO BE THAT WAY.......who cares? I mean, really...Sure, 'Alien' tore down that barrier for women to an extent, so there it is...whatever happens is whatever happens......I realized a long time ago that I should be respecting an individual for who they are rather than the nature of the genitalia, skin color, etc., etc. etc. It isn't that hard to just let things be....it really isn't....
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