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bk101
MemberOvomorph12/22/2011 Now its not complete but I think this about does it. Alien and the prequel is about a level 2 Kardashev scale civilization. They write organic matter code like we will write AI code in 40 years. They wrote the xenomorphs code or whatever the green stuff is that makes it. The green stuff or xenomorphs are the ultimate bio warfare organism and the "titans" were punished when the xenomorphs turned on them forcefully reproducing out of their creators chest. Like the eagle eating Prometheus's liver in the greek myth. The best alien movies never show the alien because it ruins it. Very cool that they turned it around [not the first time 2001] and said humans are the aliens created by in 2001 [monolithic alien presence]. Here we have a more human like species than us. The big human guy in the trailer is 10 feet tall and built due to genetic engineering and they have become titans and gods themselves. We have been made in their like, man I can't wait for this movie.
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spacejock
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011Despite the fact that I trust Scott in being truthful to the mystery of the SpaceJockey, I am a bit worried, and mainly because of one thing:
Ridley Scott said in one interview that Giger worked on Prometheus to do "some murals". This probably means Giger did not design any creature for Prometheus.
His genius is one of the main reasons of Alien's success, and not have him design the SpaceJockeys for this movie but rather give that job to some lame random creature designer who did stuff for Green Lantern makes me puke my brains out.
Oh well.
Spartacus
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011I trust him to do the right thing and that would be including as much of Giger's work as possible.
The High Priest
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011I'm with SpaceJock 100%. I wanted Giger to design the Space Jockeys "in the flesh" as I have believed for 30 years that the SJ in Alien was a fossilised skeleton. The thought of finaly seeing a living breathing one made me hard. To now find out the discovery on LV 426 was a "suit" really upsets me. Its starting to reek of George Lucas - missing basic fundamentals that tie it all in.
Oh well....
Spartacus
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011Well said.
Whatever he does I will be O.K. with as after all it is His Vision and not my own despite what my own EGO tries to convince me of.
Mr.J
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011I think we need to lose the term, "Xenomorph", Scott is distancing himself away from that term that Cameron started...this creature is more than that...not a bug but something more sinister.
Mr.J
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011Scott was very true in working with Giger and he stated Giger did design some new things for this film and used some old templates as well. The problem is that we are carrying ideas from the other films into this and Scott is straying from those films and keeping Alien and Prometheus a stand alone film that will have nothing to do with Aliens and so forth. We need to erase those very idea's of what Cameron started and the other directors placed in the later films...
walterhiller
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011i agree it's his vision and i don't particularly subscribe to the view that an artist has a responsibility to his fans either.
however, false humility is transparent and stupid. if someone's work doesn't mesh with my tastes, even if i respect him, i am not going to be "ok" with it. i'm going to be disappointed and i'm going to be critical. that doesn't mean i have an ego problem or don't respect their vision. that just means i have a mind of my own and can decide whether or not if i like something.
Spartacus
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011i like what you just said there walterhiller and I respect you for it.
I just feel you and everyone else saying these negatively charged things should first wait until you see the film because speculation is just that...its nothing...speculation and ten cents won't even buy you a cup of coffee in today's world.
It's the same thing as "selling a ticket" to a negative experience.
Once you have seen the film, if it bothers you still so much that someone looks too human underneath their space suit or that the Space Jockey wasn't handled in exactly the way YOUR OWN EGO wanted it to be...
than O.K. I can accept you saying..."This is what I did not like and this is why..."
But all that saying..."If this is done this way, I won't like it, or IF they do this I am not going to be happy" does...is bum people out who want to see this thing and embrace it for what it is...
A Prominent Film Director's Cinematic Vision !!!
centaurian_slug
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011@OP,
i like this theory , i have a related one, the SJ's are between Type 2 and Type 3, i.e. they "use the energy of multiple stars":
they go around seeding planets for later harvesting.
The horror (for us) will come from a process analogous to the way humans treat plants and animals here on earth, with the time dilation & spatial distances of interstellar travel tied in with genetic distances.
Within an ecosystem we have lots of symbioses because we interact (we can make round trips of the globe), but we have no qualms about exploring genetically distant farm animals.
but for the SJ's they can seed a planet, travel at near light speed, seed another one, and return at near light speed to "harvest" their fruit .. fresh biomass ready for transformation with their tech. They would be intelligence on a greater scale (greater complexity from having more energy available, so they will look down on terrestrial <2 civs like we look down on animals)
This will explain why alien has a human-compatable lifecycle for example
Tromatizer
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011So I was reading the original Dan O'Bannon Alien script (that comes on disc 2 of the Quadrilogy) and (at least in this draft), the derelict wasn't the source of the alien, but that there was an indigenous pyramid close to the derelict that was only seen once the storm stopped for a few moments. Inside of this pyramid, it's stated that the walls were covered with huge hieroglyphs and depictions of half humanoid/half insectoid creatures, as well as other combination monstrosities. Naturally, this was the original script and a lot of it (including the character names) was changed, but it mentions the urns multiple times (what the face hugger came out of), and there's even dialogue after the acid incident that states "The spaceship and the pyramid are not the same. The pyramid's indigenous." So, if Scott is going back to this original concept (or borrowing from it), it's entirely possible that these "murals" are, in fact, the giant hieroglyphs and murals of the pyramid on LV426.
Tromatizer
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011But what I was getting at (i lost my train of thought), was that the jockey may actually have nothing to do with the actual aliens at all... they may not even be our creators, but another race which found IT'S creator (like we have), where they may be trying to survive just as much as we are on the planet. This would add a whole new dimension to the universe. We just assume that the space jockey was bringing those eggs to earth, or that it's our creator, but maybe it was doing the same thing we were: taking the knowledge back to it's homeworld as well.
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