To be or not to be pg 13

i want rated R i wanna see THE BLOOD HA HA HA but its ok if its pg 13

i want blood, nastyness, horror and i want to be thrilled. if this film has a pg rating in it then, well,... what a sellout.

The Gladiator was R ... and was a worldwide success ... Alien is R ...and is a worldwide success and a movie history masterpiece Bladerunner is R ..and is a worldwide success and a movie history masterpiece so i dont think Scott will be ashamed to go for an R but still expect CLASS and no gore and violence more of what is needed for the purpose of the movie .

I'm hoping for solid "R" rating for sure.

Yeah gladiator was a great film I agree the certificates vary from world regions though here it was a 15 cert. I'm British/English, So I'm not 100% sure what an R rating constitutes but for the record I thought gladiator could have been a bit more realistic or to put it another way braver in its depiction of a Gladiatorial event. I am getting a bit long in the tooth to be impressed by gore for gores sake but in the case of gladiator i feel it could have and should have been far more graphic than it was . The reason being the very nature of the films title, yes the film had good fight sequences and a fair portion of graphic violence but it could of been a lot more sadistic, and for this film it would of highlighted the very appalling nature reflected by the films subject matter . After all i found the gladiator scenes in the life of Brian more graphic lol so on that score i was a little disappointed but I wont deny its one of my fav films I just think Neil Marshall's centurion was a bit more braver in the gore stakes.

There is "funny" gore like in Centurion ( good movie with a great Fassbender ) or in starship troopers ...and there is the "serious" gore like in Saving Private Ryan or Black hawk dawn ( another R for Ridley and an excellent movie )...both kind of gore if used too much can please teens but distract the rest from the movie . I think gore is useful if used to underline a tragic situation , Alien is a perfect example ..one moment of great gore in the perfect moment . Too much gore in the gladiator would have changed the "tone" of the movie and was very risky .

I certainly wouldn't describe the violence in Centurion as "funny." I thought that movie was pretty brutal and realistic in its depiction of Roman era violence. Great movie BTW.

I just read on the Prometheus Wiki he's filming a PG-13 and R versions. Alteredstate, i believe that the R rating is 18 for us Brits.

I agree with all of what your saying Frantz but in gladiator the subject matter of the film would merit a stronger depiction of the kind of horrors the romans forced people to do in the gladiatorial arena. Also centurion was not intended to be a laugh out loud romp and like Unadan i thought it was quite brutal but realistic. If you get the chance to see or maybe you have seen Caligula then you can appreciate the savage brutality of the Roman empire although on the whole its a dated film now and quite crap lol.

The roman empire was not more brutal than any other empire ( or even republic ) of history ... you surely know that Gibbon said "If a man were called to fix the period in the history of the world during which the condition of the humans race was most happy and prosperious , he would , without hesitation , name that which elapsed from the death of Domitian to the ascension of commodus . the vast extent of the Roman empire was governed by absolute power , under the guidance of virtue and wisdom etc etc ..." The people who watched Gladiator fights were no better than the ones watching a Nascar race waiting for a crash . Btw to me Centurion is a "light" movie ..entertaining but not heavy . "Black Death" is an heavier one .

frantz, the brutality of the roman empire reflected the moral and scientific understanding of the times. you are right in saying that the penchant for bloodthirst is a fundamental human condition not exclusive to the romans. and in post enlightenment, post modern times, these violent impulses manifests itself in the huge audience for violent sports like boxing, mma or wrestling. these have become the new bread and circus.

As i have said before...How does one deliver a thriller/horror/sci-fi in a convincing way and make it successful in that scare you shitless way that Ridley wants...I dont think it can be done...I mean Texas chainsaw has two scenes..maybe 3 of blood in it..the rest is suggestion..and yet it was banned !! Now we live in a world where PG-13rs are a bit more desensitized to violence but could you imagine Texas chainsaw getting a pg-13 rating? I mean the original Psycho has a rating of 15 !!! and that was the classification in 2003! The rating if there is only one cut is a worry..but to be honest I just wanna see this Mofo ASAP

The problem with the films you mention is their reputation. IMO Texas Chainsaw Massacre was a badly shot, badly scripted and badly acted shockfest. IMO Psycho is a tame and conservative story that never delves into the sick, depravity of the main character. IMO The Exorcist is a slowly paced, methodical showcase of middle class family life with 20-30 minutes of chills. Because these films recieved bad reputations at the time of their release they are viewed as nasties, when in reality they were pathetic and shameless attempts at controversy. You don't need blood, guts, profanities, sex and nudity to scare, unedge, chill and horrify. Look at films such as Arachnophobia (people scratch), Carrie (that hand still makes me jump), The Shining (the paranoia and loneliness), hell the infamous radio broadcasts of War Of The Worlds. Intrigue - suspense - wonder/horrify/scare. Its a simple equation that all storytellers have been using for centuries - Pull the audience in, get them on the edge of their seats and then hit 'em, or maybe not hit 'em but play with them, and then hit 'em.

Blood and guts were used to amazing effect in the original "Alien" kitchen scene, and there wasn't anything subtle about that sequence, in terms of how it was presented. After that, Scott didn't really need to show us the after-effects of the retractable alien jaw, punching through skulls. The audience filled in those blanks for itself. [i]Judicious[/i] use of graphic gore [i]can[/i] be effective, though more often than not, it's over used to the point that it becomes desensitizing. Carpenter's remake of "The Thing" is a notable, rare exception to that rule, IMO.

as I said earlier somewhere follow me here please... Let's assume I am not 49 Let's assume I am in that particular demographic that FOX loves so much and seems to make the Bible of their very existence...let's assume I am a bright eyed angst filled 13-19 year old Male in Europe or America !!! Am I going to be more attracted to a movie rated 14+ or one rated PG13 ...? Food For Thought !

they are attracted by an R with perversion and nudity :p

If you're a fan, the DVD or Blu-ray is a no-brainer. These days, studios know that both they and their audience can have their cake and eat it too. As a single example, Prometheus will look and sound better in my dedicated HT, than any commercial theater in my area. I'll probably go see the first midnight showing just for an audience experience, but watching all alone will probably be much scarier.

funny stuff Frantz !!! exactly !

I'm gonna be lined up just to buy the freakin' DVD.

@Snorkelbottom..I hear what your saying dude...But carrie..didnt simply use suspense..nor did the shining...there were quite graphic scenes of blood in those too. Not to mention psychological terror you couldnt put those in front of a 13 yr old.. I will agree that suspense can be delivered without an R cut but its to what degree it is efffective. i Guess its relative to the times we live in..War of the worlds was a success because it relied soley on voices to paint a picture...I mean if there were visuals you would have known it was bullshit. Which I guess is a good argument for a good story teller...if you can tell it in the rght way you will deliver? I just dont think it will on the Scary front..Dont get me wrong...I like the rest on here have been waiting so long for this..I dont think there is much to be disapointed with..tis my fave film...But in terms of thriller and being scared..I doubt it..but i will stand corrected..I just dont think it can deliever on a pg-13 thriller... IMO Texas chainsaw aint shot or cut badly...and the whole violence/guts/shock value...well it works for me...Look at switchblade romance..In my opinion the finest horrors ever so far..and the opening 20 minutes is total gore....but so well put together and a great story..

The most terrifying scene for me in Carrie, wasn't the hand at the end although it was fun and my popcorn ended up in the lap of the old lady behind me...or even the scene in the kitchen where she telepathically kills her Mom...it was the scene in the gymnasium, when she starts to use her powers by locking all the doors and windows...you hear this hum in the background score that I Loved...made the whole thing much more dramatic and more importantly, scary for me than had it not been there. Imagine that, the background effect music made a difference in how scared by the film I was.

I would think 20th CF would haven given Ridley a lot of lattitude to make the film he wants. Look at the runs on the board the guy has. He would have filmed exactly what he wanted to film and then decided how far to go during the editing which would be happening with CGI production as we speak. I would also guess he would have been given quite amount of creative control for the upcoming editing process as a condition of him taking the helm to direct. Regardless I think the movie will make a shed load of money.

Personally I don't think you have much to worry about when it comes to the rating the film will get. Like in Alien there was only one really gore filled scene in the whole move, and the rest of the thrills was psychological. And as some have said Ridley has a tremendous track record with his films, and the studios will I am sure not overlook that and give him leeway that they would not give someone else. Given the standards in which films are rated in the North America I am certain we will see all the thrills we can handle in this film. I say this as I have watched this documentary called "This Film Is Not Yet Rated". And in it the people that rate the film seem to be far more concerned with sex and depicted sex over gore and thrills. So get ready people for a amazing scare fest!! I hope I am not being overly optimistic lol!!

should be pg-13 cause i mean think about it our kids could see a materpeice HELLO this could be a hit its in 3D to so the kids would LOVE IT

Ratings are kind of silly, but I wouldn't mind if it was PG-13 or R.

There is a real good shot for this movie to be released in the theaters with a PG 13 rating. But when it is released on Blu-Ray/DVD they will make a Unrated directors cut that is of course the R rated version. That is how I think fox will do it. I can see if Fox is looking to make this movie beat out all the Superhero blockbusters and this would be their strategy.

i hope your right predatordreads