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What kind of aliens are involved in the Ancient Alien Theory?

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heidij

MemberOvomorphFeb-05-2018 3:51 AM

Hello all,

I am doing a media makeup project on the aliens involved in the Ancient Alien Theory of human evolution. I am looking for opinions of what sort of aliens you think would have visited earth thousands of years ago?

I will use the opinions on this forum to create designs for my alien makeup project, which aliens do you think are most realistic and why?

We can go down the route of 'Prometheus' engineer ET's or 'Fire in the sky' dark grey aliens, or anything related.

Would the anatomy and physiology of an alien be similar to humans?

All opinions count!

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BigDave

MemberDeaconFeb-05-2018 9:35 AM

I think this is the BIG Question, who knows what Aliens look like, i am sure they exist, the Universe never mind Multi-Verses offer the potential of Intelligent Aliens to be great, i think a lot of the appearance will depend on factors like where they came from, what is their world like, and where do they come from now?

If the International Space Station was to grow in size to be like those Mega Stations we have seen in Star Trek and Star Wars, but there still is no Gravity, and Humans Live on these Stations only, and for thousands of years, you can bet we could Evolve to some degree to be suited to that environment.

If you are talking only regarding those that have VISITED Earth in the Ancient Past, it depends if we go the route of does Ancient Religion/Cultures depictions of Gods, actually based on interactions with Alien Species?  If so then it appears they are very Human Looking.   But other Cultures have depicted drawings that look kind of like the Grey Aliens/Fire in the Sky Aliens.

But also Serpentine, and Insect like Ancient beings/gods too.

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

heidij

MemberOvomorphFeb-06-2018 5:12 AM

BigDave I can always rely on you for information! haha cheers for the comment. Yes I am regarding aliens who possibly visited earth thousands of years ago according to ancient alien theory- for example a Prometheus engineer. The people/human species would have looked at them like gods because they taught the evolving humans how to create civilization- or the 'promethean god' teaching them to create fire which was a huge element in evolution. If the aliens spread their DNA around earth or physically put it into in homo-erectus/human species- then modern humans would be the outcome of the 'alien and primate' parents.

So yes you are right, they would have to have some sort of human elements, which means they could possibly come from a planet similar to earth.

Critters5

MemberFacehuggerFeb-06-2018 5:45 AM

Or...as recent archaeological proof in Israel has shown, modern humans have lived outside of Africa for 200,000 years. Plenty of time to evolve and develop on our own. 

heidij

MemberOvomorphFeb-07-2018 12:58 AM

Yes thats if you believe in evolution but in this case we are discussing the possibility of the ancient alien theory- its for a project. Why didnt the other primates evolve like we did?

Critters5

MemberFacehuggerFeb-07-2018 4:48 AM

They went down a different evolutionary path than us based on whatever different stresses/needs they encountered. Our evolution was brain based. 

heidij

MemberOvomorphFeb-07-2018 9:46 AM

Fair enough- its not that i necessary believe ancient alien theory, but it does raise a lot of questions and evidence on it is actually very convinving. would be interesting to know what these 'aliens' were like if they did exist.

BigDave

MemberDeaconFeb-07-2018 9:59 AM

I think its a interesting theory....  when looking at Evolution there are a few flaws with it, and as Science keeps evolving they keep changing the GOAL POSTS so to speak....

The other side of the Coin is Religion, and while for many Atheist/Scientist the whole Biblical Accounts are very bizarre and contradict what Science has discovered to a degree, we have to remember the Biblical Accounts are NOT the only Tale of Creation and NOT the only Tale of Ancient Gods.

There are some similarities between Ancient Cultures and Religions, that could be merely Coincidence.. but it does leave the Door Open to explore a possible Connection..  and that is the ANCIENT ASTRONAUT theory.

Which Fundamentally is what PROMETHEUS was about.

I personally find Religion Flawed, but when looking at every Mythos/Legend/Religion there are many connecting themes, purely Coincidence? who knows.. when i look at Evolution there are some flaws, and as with the notion of IS THERE A GOD!  We dont have any 100% Proof, the same can be said with the BIG BANG! This theory as well as others regarding Evolution are always Evolving as Scientists Ponder New ideas, that change what they First Thought when Science looked at this THEORIES.

Having a Extraterrestrial Element like Prometheus showed us, is a way that can Bridge the Gap between Religion/Mythos and Science. But again we have no 100% Proof that this is actually the TRUTH either.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

dk

MemberTrilobiteFeb-07-2018 10:39 AM

The ancient alien theory is interesting but leaves much unanswered. There is also the idea that these aliens may have had more nefarious things on their minds.

Regarding religion and hard science, it is interesting to note that science admittedly evolves with new findings while religion remains static regardless of developments/evidence.

Critters5

MemberFacehuggerFeb-07-2018 11:36 AM

Aliens did it doesn't answer anything you still left with the fundamental questions of religion which is why I opt for evolution and science. 

BigDave

MemberDeaconFeb-07-2018 1:50 PM

I guess fundamentally its one of the BIGGEST Questions we have... one that gave RS insight to going ahead with the whole Prometheus idea.

I keep a open mind, and i am always one of those  where the Proof in the Pudding is in the Eating, so while Science has many flaws and contradicts itself, Religion has more and Science just evolves and maybe makes it up as far as theories as it goes along, to counter for new discovery's... while Religion just seems to not change its stance.   I have more interest in Ancient Cultures than some Religions though.

I find a lot of stuff Fascinating but again there is no 100% Proof that its more than Coincidence

With Science its always evolving, and when they find new stuff and theories that debunk their early theories a lot of Science moves on with the light of new evidence, in the conquest of the ever evolving answers to the big questions, so this is what makes the Scientific approach something to follow.

I think its almost certain that our ancestral roots are maybe more Ancient than we thought 50 years ago,  but one thing we can safely assume is there is a good chance of similar life out there in the Universe, especially if we contemplate the Multiple Universe Theories, Sadly the Distances are so vast that we may never get conclusive proof, other than we just have to ask in the Billions of Galaxies are we really so UNIQUE?

Its a Question we may never get a clear answer for... but its certainly something thats interesting to think about, and its why Prometheus has a Science FICTION gives us a interesting take on the subject.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

dk

MemberTrilobiteFeb-07-2018 1:53 PM

BigDave I doubt there will be an answer since science relies on facts and religion on faith. Faith does not equal fact. It makes for spirited debate and interesting sci fi though!

BigDave

MemberDeaconFeb-07-2018 2:15 PM

Totally Agree, this is the kind of point i was making in that Religion alone seems to be something that just wont add up to what Science has shown, there are things in some Religions that mainstream Science just goes against.  Especially with the Biblical Accounts as far as the descriptions of some things are totally bizarre  and would sound more like a Ancient Mankind finding a Time Travelers Pokeman Comic lol

But if we look at these things in context to COULD Ancient Man had interpreted something different, then indeed we can see how some things could make a bit more sense.  A ancient description of  Man Talking to a Stone in his Hand that Shone with the Light of the Lord, and he spoke to the Lord.  Would sound rather bizarre.... but we consider for a Moment what if thats a description for how Ancient Man would describe a Mobile/Cell Phone!

If we took a Stealth Bomber that entered some Paradox and ended up Bombing a Syria/Iraq from 3000 years ago, if these accounts was witnessed and recorded then these Ancient People would not know what a Plan is or Bombs, and so it could be described as a Giant Black Raven who cast down Fire etc.

I AM NOT... trying to say this is how things are... just we have to ask how would Ancient Mankind view such things....   I am one who goes by Evidence, and so indeed Written Accounts are interesting, but Visual Accounts more so...   So i am always Fascinated by Ancient Drawings, and Artifacts, this does not proof however that these are accounts of Aliens, or Time Travelers.... etc.

It also does not mean i disagree with Science, some of Science is FACT some is THEORY i always find it interesting how Science Evolves and what was considered Fact, is changed a little, its just so interesting to see how the more we advance the more the way we can find things changes....  And i mean in all sorts of departments, not only Dinosaurs and how recent Discoveries seem to indicate they maybe are not as Reptile as we thought, but could be more Birdlike that first thought.. i find these new discoveries interesting.

I have had many a Dinosaur Conversation with some Hard-Line Religious Folk... they are not in Religious TXT so they dont exist... i guess the same as Otters, Sloths and Flamingos dont exist then LOL

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

heidij

MemberOvomorphFeb-07-2018 3:21 PM

After watching the History channel show 'Ancient Aliens', it really got me thinkingand goes to show how much evidence is actually out there. Some of this evidence can be dipicted in many ways but some of it is just outright weird, such as ancient paintings of flying saucers in the background sky, even some with beings sitting in them. ancient cave carvings of flying saucers. Why do people worship beings from the sky? look up the Book of Ezekiel- in  his own written words about a 'chariot' which visited him and gave him instruction. Theres are just a few of the many examples. I have a feeling Ridley Scott may be a believer in this theory.. or definitely find it interesting.

Batchpool

MemberFacehuggerFeb-07-2018 3:43 PM

One of the biggest factors imo of what would affect the anatomy and physiology of an alien would be diet. Humans are omnivorous and therefore the jaw has evolved to accommodate anything from vegetation to meat. If ancient aliens did come to earth and settle it would make sense that they would have to be compatible with digestible resources, unless they introduced their own food. Who is to say that some of the bio diversity we see on this planet does not actually originate from this planet. Most animals have blood that is based on iron, whereas a horseshoe crab is based on copper. One of my favourite quotes comes from Cookie Monster, which is “Are lobsters mermaids to scorpions?” I like this idea because it reflects on how two different species can look similar, but adapted to their environment. Another thing about this quote is the perception of mythical creatures. I think that there could be something to be gained at looking at creatures in Greek mythology. Could there have been aliens that were giant Cyclops?

I think that there is always plenty of discussion about humanoid type aliens, but if humans were to visit and then colonise a planet, there surely they would take livestock with them.

BigDave

MemberDeaconFeb-07-2018 3:49 PM

Its interesting for sure,  regardless of if there is any truth in it or not, its a interesting one to ponder and one to ponder.  It kind of fuses Scientific Connections with Religion/Mythos so it kind of provides a Answer to both, but thats not to say this is actually the answer at all.

Until we Die and See GOD, or GOD (Gods) comes back in front of Millions and gives us the Low-Down/Answers, until Aliens Turn up in front of Millions and Declare they are our Creators.

We just will never know for sure... Even if they did, not everyone would believe, and think its a HOAX the work of Satan or a conspiracy by the World Governments to Enslave us etc.

Still a interesting subject to look into, i think nearly everyone is in search of some Purpose and Meaning, some find it thought Religion, other Spiritualism, others just take Science at Face Value to suggest we have no Place in the Universe apart from being a collection of Particles/Atoms Forged from the Death of a Star, that was Forged from the Big Bang.

Then can we 100% Prove that?  No one was around at that time, but Science does try and discover the reasons for this and its interesting as they more they discover the more they have to discount what they thought they discovered at earlier points in time.

I have my own Personnel View on the Purpose of Life, and that is just to Enjoy the Gift, Experience as much as you can, as long as your not hurting anyone and treat others how you would like to be treated and Enjoy all the Wonders of Life and the Beauty of our Galaxy while we are far away from discovering those wonders of the Galaxy up close, in time we may do.  But for those who are around now, we live in a Time where Entertainment, be it Movies or Games or Books give us a step closer to such wonders.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

MemberDeaconFeb-07-2018 3:56 PM

"I think that there is always plenty of discussion about humanoid type aliens, but if humans were to visit and then colonise a planet, there surely they would take livestock with them."

Fantastic Reply Batchpool

I like that comment above, as i gets me thinking about Alien Covenant where we are told their are 2000 Colonists and Thousands of Embryos....  If we ever got to the stage of Alien Covenant, where we would indeed be setting off to Colonize a World.

Then it would make sense to have the Technology to Incubate and Latter Grow Embryo of Various Organisms and the Facilities to then Grown them from Embryo to  Adult, and so it would make sense if the Covenant indeed carried Livestock Embryos.

Which in effect turns the Covenant into more of a Noahs Ark,  the Noahs Ark Story sounds unbelievable, it certainly has massive flaws...   But if we was to ever have to BUILD a Real Modern Noahs Ark... be it to Survive some Disastrous Event  or Travel to another world.

Or even build a Underground Shelter..

Then keeping Embryos of Organisms, and even Egg and Sperm Cells would not take up much Space Compared to a Male/Female of every Species ;)

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

dk

MemberTrilobiteFeb-07-2018 4:48 PM

No one was around at that time, but Science does try and discover the reasons for this and its interesting as they more they discover the more they have to discount what they thought they discovered at earlier points in time.

It would be ironic if one day in the future that science found empirical evidence of an after life thus proving most faiths to be true after all. How strange would that be? The difference would be that we discovered it instead of believing just because we were told to. IDK. Maybe a movie like that exists?

Batchpool

MemberFacehuggerFeb-07-2018 5:09 PM

Theseus

MemberOvomorphFeb-07-2018 6:24 PM

I think if you can imagine it, it probably exists, just there's no way to prove it...yet. I think it's plausible to imagine advanced beings come in all shapes and sizes from the great flying mammoth squids from The Arrival, to maybe spheres of light beings who have shed or evolved their physical form to all kinds of animal-like beings including humans and maybe elves. I think we could include every idea from Star Trek, Star Wars and every sci-fi ever made. A xenomorph type species is entirely possible as well although I would classify them more in the category of deadly space insects.

I like the idea of a dragon human. That ideas gets briefly explored in the silly movie The Golden Child starring Eddie Murphy, a Medusa-like character.

All the best with your project, Heidi. I hope this helps.

Svanya

AdminPraetorianFeb-07-2018 8:18 PM

@heidij

You can read the book "Chariots of the Gods" if you'd like, or just watch this old movie that was based on the book. It's pretty much the basis for the Ancient Aliens theory. 

BigDave

MemberDeaconFeb-08-2018 3:09 PM

I think the main interest for me, is how so many Ancient Cultures and Many who would have had NO contact with each other share so many Creation/Gods kind of Mythos and Legends.  There are so many similarities in a lot of these that it can get us pondering is this purely coincidence?

The Deluge Story is one example.

I am not saying the Biblical account is right, just that so many other cultures and mythos share the same connections,  we could put it down to a DIRECT Origin of a Story thats passed on culture to culture and changes a little.... but a number of Cultures had no such CONTACT

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

dk

MemberTrilobiteFeb-08-2018 3:21 PM

BigDave I think what most may have had in common was observing the stars, moon, sun, sky, weather patterns, etc... and some differences may have been how they interpreted them. 

heidij

MemberOvomorphFeb-09-2018 6:25 AM

Amazing replies anyone! Thank you so much :)

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