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Has Prometheus foreshadowed the Covenant planet?

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MJD

MemberOvomorphFeb-24-2017 4:35 AM

Hey Guys,

One big question left unanswered in the Prometheus movie was the opening scenes, showing an unknown planet.

Was it prehistoric Earth or perhaps already Paradise from Covenant movie?

would be really cool to see Ridley and his crew already foreshadowing 2012 what is to come now in 2017. Although i doubt they already knew the further installment to come, i did hear that most of what we are seeing now is plots they deliberately took out of Prometheus to create sequels and mystique.

You must admit that the environment from beginning of Prometheus and Covenant look very similar.

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ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianFeb-24-2017 4:50 AM

My belief is that it's prehistoric earth.The engineer drinks the black goo like substance which deconstructs his DNA as he tumbles into the water and thus seeding earth with life.That being said,it's not a bad idea for Covenant.After all it wasn't out right said it was earth.I had proposed a theory that paradise was perhaps engineered by the black goo or something like it.Read Fire and Stone to get a better idea on this. 

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

MJD

MemberOvomorphFeb-24-2017 4:59 AM

I read all the comics of AVP, Prometheus and Co. Especially the new complete Fire & Stone series. As you pointed out they delved deeper into what the black substance could be and what to do with it. My theory always was that the black substance itself is God / Devil in one, the superficial being Shaw was looking for. It creates and destroys, a more scientific look at the spiritual sides. Pretty sure Ridley Scott and most involved are preastronautic and agnostic in beliefs. There are many many notions in Prometheus, which is why i thought Lindeloff suited the Job to rewrite the script. He did the same approach in Lost tv show brilliantly.

Back to subject. I was sure too it was Earth and we see how they seed planets but ever since i saw the trailer and the environment there, i noticed similarities. Then combined with the ideas from the comics, it suited the picture. This substance has definitely changed the environment, hence why you see the pod the soldier steps onto and gets infected in the Covenant trailer ;-)

ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianFeb-24-2017 5:11 AM

Exactly.Allow me to resurrect my thread to show you my theory.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

MJD

MemberOvomorphFeb-24-2017 5:51 AM

let me know which thread and i´ll read it through ;-)

ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianFeb-24-2017 5:58 AM

Black Spores:Indigenous or created.It's right down there,i'll admit it's not the deepest theory around but certainly plausible.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

BigDave

MemberDeaconFeb-24-2017 3:07 PM

The opening Scene in Prometheus was to show us what happened potentially on Earth yes indeed.... It showed the Sacrifice was how the Engineers Seed World and Evolved Life.

Spaights draft the World already had life, advanced life but by no means intelligent like the Engineers, The Sacrifice caused the Engineers DNA to be broken down and contained in the Nano Scarabs that would then infect a Female Primate and thus cause her to take on Engineer DNA.

Engineer + Primate = Mankind eventually. (this was flawed but i wont get into it here, unless anyone wants to know why Spaights draft had many flaws).

Lindeloff evolved this replaced the Scarabs with a Cake-like Substance that melted when exposed to the Atmosphere but its purpose was the same as the Scarabs in Spaights draft.

This world in Lindeloffs draft was more Primordial, it was supposed to have no Life and the Engineers Sacrifice is what lead to the Start of Life.... (again this was flawed) the World had Plant Life and so it was instead likely the Engineers process was to be the CATALYST that allowed Basic Life to Evolve to Complex Life.

This however was not a One Off Event, it was not a case of the Engineer Seeding Earth caused Basic Life to Evolve to Mankind over the Billion or so years.... or Hundreds of Millions (depending what time period of basic life was on Earth before this Catalyst Scene).

It was never covered in Prometheus... but Spaights draft did show us that further Genetic Interventions had came every 1100 years, our DNA was changed... 

Ridley confirmed this with comments..... saying these beings had been back over and over, each time Evolved us Genetically and Technologically.

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

MemberDeaconFeb-24-2017 3:13 PM

HOWEVER..........

Ridley had said a few times, and even once as far as to say it annoyed him how people would ASSUME The Sacrificial Scene was Earth.

He said it does not have to be......

This i feel was Ridley simply hinting that these beings have performed the same kind of Seeding on many World, we are not unique....  As far as the Sacrifice to allow the Engineers to provide their DNA as Building Blocks of Life and Catalyst to Evolve Life.

However this does not mean that every World they did this to was as Advanced as Earth, we dont know if they came back over and over to Evolve other Worlds to the point of creating Humanoid Life....   was Earth taken this far without the consent of those who are at he Top and are Holders of the Gift to create (Sacrificial Goo) who knows.

Was other worlds evolved the same to create Humanoids, but maybe Earth was interacted and evolved to far against the consent of the Hierarchy?

All possibilities....

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

MemberDeaconFeb-24-2017 3:17 PM

Now its come Full-Circle...

And indeed the Opening Scene looks a lot like Paradise, but it does not have to be Paradise... it could be though.

It could show that Paradise was the Cradle of Creation, the First Place this experiment was conducted on, or as far as to the level to Evolve Humanoid Life.

The Scene with David and no doubt Weyland has a Lake and Mountains in the Background to it, this is no doubt Symbolic to Creation

This no doubt Prologue Scene is to highlight the creation of David and in the Background is a image that is made to lead us to the Prometheus Prologue of the Creation of Man.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

MJD

MemberOvomorphFeb-25-2017 1:40 AM

I read the draft from Spaihts and actually already knew it before Prometheus hit cinema in 2012. And i saw the re-writes from Lindeloff and comments from Ridley about what could and could not be, all hints, nothing really fixed. So they took a lot of the original ideas, twisted them around and plopped them inside the movie. But still they dont go into specifics to really hit the nail on the head. Ok, that they came every other generation to be involved in technological and cultural growth till at some point they stopped and left us, where we get the prediction on the walls to go visit or warning to not go there. So Prometheus goes along, but as you mentioned since Prologue Prometheus and Paradise in Covenant look very similar. And that Ridley mentioned in a interview that he hated people were just thinking of earth and not out the box. I know for a fact, even if they did put new ideas in Covenant that before they even green lit Prometheus with Lindeloff´s rewritten script, that they had a lot more they didn´t include into the series, since i remember both Lindeloff and Ridley going back and forth what should be shown and left open. I mean which writer and fan doesn´t have the big questions while writing such a script, all the stuff we are talking about except certain deep details from other tales went through their heads and landed on paper. I mean come on its Spaihts and Lindeloff, those two eat shit and sleep mythologies and stories where they take everything that influences them and plops them into their stories. Don´t get me wrong spaihts draft was the best one but i like how they trimmed it down to its bare bones and can now fill it up again. There are major scientific flaws when it comes to populating a planet this way but you never for exact what the Black Goo itself is even if mentioned as Catalyst or having a picture from Fox explaining its purposes. There is so much left out, that exactly the flaws that make it scientifically impossible, could make it possible. I freaking love science fiction :-) Anything is possible

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