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Is David8 a little bit more advanced than we are told?

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Centauri

MemberPraetorianSep-13-2016 6:22 PM

 

Even with David8's flaws....

Did Weyland design david8 with abilities he's not talking about?

Since David possesses close traits to human, except for a soul....does this mean he can do things slightly better than us?

like run?, freakish strength depending on certain emergency features, but in tune for only for KNOWN human situations?

 

 

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BigDave

MemberDeaconSep-16-2016 8:03 AM

David 8 would be quicker and stronger for sure... i dont think he would have the Flash Speeds or Superman Strength lol

Average Human can Jog at about 8MPH and Sprint at 15MPH but for Short Periods of Time.... Usian Bolt Runs at 23MPH but over a short distance.

I would assume that David could run faster than Bolt for a much longer time.... but we dont know how fast they  (Androids) can run but i would assume they can at least double a Humans Speed.  But be able to maintain that high speed... a Marathon Runner Averages between 8-9MPH over the course of a 26 Mile Race i think?

Most Marathons are about 26 Miles and Records always seem to be about just over 2 hours... while average times are over 4 hours.  And so i would assume a David 8 would be able to do a Marathon in about 45 min....  definitely no longer than a hour but i doubt as fast as 30 min.

On to Strength

A Average Man of average size can Bench Press about 90% of his weight...   Thats untrained and so those who work out at the Gym or train in Weight Lifting can lift more...

World Record Bench Press is 722lbs by Eric Spoto who on average weighed 320 lbs and so he could Bench Press 225% more than he weighed.

David 8 weighs 189 lbs and i would assume he would be able to lift 400% of his weight put him slightly stronger than a Worlds Strongest Man... but at half the size.

But we dont have no Actual Statistics on David 8 but i would assume he is at least 4X stronger than the average Human of the same size as him but definitely not 10X...

So we just dont know HOW FAST... or HOW STRONG David 8 would be, but maybe we can assume he would be at least Twice as Fast and 5 Times as Strong as a similar sized Human.

 

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

MemberDeaconSep-16-2016 8:14 AM

I thought the only thing we knew was his IQ  but its only shown as petaflops which David 8 has 200 which is 530% more than a Human Brain and so we can thus assume he has a IQ of at least 500 but upto 1000....

But i did find out David 8s Strength they can lift upto 700lbs it does not say which kind of lifting however.... but a Human can on average lift there own weight. This varies on type of lift and also person to person.

But the official Stats for David 8 does confirm he is about 4X Stronger than a Human of similar height/weight.

Some wondered if Vickers was a Robot because of how she moved David.... but they forget that David 8 did not expect her response and so he was weighing 190lbs tops and the Worlds Strongest Men would be able to throw a David 8 around with ease... (if we was not restraining or was turned off).

If David knew Vickers was trying to force him up the wall and he prepared to force against it, she would not have budged him a inch.

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

MemberDeaconSep-16-2016 8:29 AM

As far as how Advanced David is that we are not told... maybe you mean how Advanced is David 8 compared to how he is supposed to be.

This is where i think the Themes of the Movie come to play.... that is Forbidden knowledge and Rebellion...

I would assume as David 8 was Weylands personnel David who he refereed to has being the closest to a Son he would ever have... then i would assume David 8 from Prometheus has somewhat altered Programing... to allow him more freedom  than maybe the other David 8's would have.

We see in many Robot movies that a Robot is to Serve us, and I-Robot is a prime example...  that its all in the programing and even with Robocop he had those prime directives and number 4 was Classified which Robocop then found out he could not go against or harm a high member (officer) of OCP and so he could not take action against Dick Jones..... until he was fired and no longer a OCP Officer.

So we can see Programing plays a key role... once AI evolves and then can re-program itself then we could get to a Matrix or a Terminator Scenerio.

I would say David 8 was given less restraints in his programing, but i also think there may have been a flaw in the ability to allow such changes...  which could mean David 8 could evolve his AI beyond what the company would see as ideal or safe.

Weyland background information shows some early David models started to show glitches and go a bit haywire....  this could also be regarding Bishops comments about previous Androids being Twitchy...

Ultimately Prometheus had the plot about rebellion and forbidden knowledge and its something Prometheus 2 was to explore more

Lucifer was made Perfect in everyway, he was Gods greatest creation... only Pride got the better of Satan... unlike most of the other Angels... Satan saw himself as on equal terms with God...  he had more free-will than the other Angels who would never Rebel against Gods rule.

We see Adam and Eve created, and they never question God, Adam sees only God as great and yet he has Eve as a Companion... its only after eating the Forbiden Fruit that Adams eyes are opened and he had knowledge not meant for Humans.

Eve is cast out of the Garden, Adam now with knowledge sees that he favors Eve, he loves her and cant bare to leave her and so he sees her as Equal to God... and he is too punished...

Eve was tricked into the Forbidden Fruit, she tricked Adam but its Adams choice after they got found out by his now Fully Free Will, that he made his choice.... so he was a greater Sinner than Eve.

This theme is in the Greek Mythos too.... its also in the Matrix....

And so yes i feel David 8 has more free-will than a Android was supposed to have, but by unlocking this free-will i think Weyland did not know the full extent of how Free David would become and especially after Weylands Death.

 

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

No-one

MemberOvomorphJul-22-2017 3:13 PM

According to the Weyland Yutani Report, David 8 that was on the Prometheus mission was the last Artificial Person to be personally designed by Sir Peter Weyland. Lacking Asimov safeguards later instituted by the synthetic oversight law, David 8 was capable of formulating plans in order to attain assigned goals; the David aboard the Prometheus exhibited behaviours that advanced Sir Peter's personal agenda regardless of the outcome for the humans involved.

George-TheGreek

MemberOvomorphJul-24-2017 9:10 AM

The sixth day man was created, in the seventh day god took a rest and in the eighth day David was created.

Gralen

MemberFacehuggerJul-24-2017 11:13 PM

David is not that strong & fast as you might think.

He is fragile., at least his outer skin/shell is soft, judging by the scene where Daniels wounded his face.

He looks only strong because he attack a small/weak woman.

A trained male soldier is more of an equal match and not a strongman.

The latter plays in another league and would damage David severely like the Engineer did on LV-223.

Biggest advantage of David compared to humans is his endurance and sturdiness since he dont feels real pain and could fight with wounds that would kill a human, like a ripped of arm,eye(bleeding out).

hox

MemberFacehuggerJul-25-2017 3:39 AM

No. He tossed another android a good distance across the room. He's strong alright.

His epidermis is meant to resemble human skin, in form and elasticity. It might be vulnerable to puncture, but the nail would healed over completely in quite a short time.

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