Jul-01-2013 6:11 AM
Brilliant question because at the heart of it all I believe that the engineers are to the elders as we are to the engineers as the elders to the super elders as I call them is to "god" : a form of slavery or service that remains about assuring the survival and power (therefore immortality) of the being you serve. Do it willingly and you are blessed with the same fruits you have them with. Refusal = hell.
I believe the engineers are not immortal but they can live for millions of years if they are allowed to genetically regenerate themselves .
If your existance depends on providing immortality to the ones you serve why would you care for the immortality of those below you ?
Weyland was asking in essence what the engineers were asking of weyland and all other humans .
No contest . You die .
Well that's what I think.
Jul-01-2013 6:16 AM
Therefore true immortality is when you can sustain yourself indefinitely from an energy source you posess that no take away from you and is unending and absolute
No one can pose a threat to your physical being. You are completely impregnable.
You have those 2 and you are immortal.
I believe the engineers do not posess these 2 .
Jul-01-2013 4:50 PM
Well obviously the Engineers have issues with humans. We dont exactly know what reasons they created humans but having a prejudice towards them might be part of the answer to why the engineer sarcastically replies Wayland . As far as them being capable of immortality is questionable. But they definitely are endowed with God-like powers through technology which might give them an attitude of being immortal. Yet if they are more scientific than religiously inclined they might have the perception of an impossibility of immortality: Making Weylands request absolutely ridiculous.
Jul-02-2013 11:44 PM
I'd define immortality just as living forever, with no aging past prime adulthood, not also being invincible. This said, I think the engineers could have access to immortality, but not invincibility as we see them being killed. Making Weyland immortal from his point, would mean that he would forever be a very old, frail man, and to the engineer, death is part of a natural course and it is the humans' break with nature that makes him attack them.
Jul-16-2013 7:52 AM
I found this picture last night and found it interesting.
Does the suit just regenerate itself?
Jul-16-2013 10:19 AM
An author named Kage Baker ( deceased) wrote a series of books about engineered immortals, people who could be pulverized, torn apart, burned etc. and over a period of time ( quite long) their bodies would regenerate. They are literally unkillable, to the extent that the company who made them has an ancient research facility devoted to figuring out how to destroy them ( 1000+ years of experiments on unlucky immortals has produced no results). All they can really do is neutralize them by burying them under skyscrapers etc.
Certain vampire lore also has examples of this, the horror of true immortality. It could be the Engineers know of this, too. Perhaps producing immortality for their masters was their task on LV223, with the Goo and it's side effects one unwelcome outcome. Or maybe it was finding the goo elsewhere that inspired the project. Either way, they know well the consequences of such pursuits. Maybe he looked at Weyland and thought " Oh, not again..".
I think it's definitely safe to assume the suit regenerates itself.
Jul-16-2013 10:40 AM
Very Little can be classed as Immortal as almost everything has a Beginning and a End... Even our Sun which has lived for over 4 Billion Years is not Immortal.... in about 4 Billion Years Scientist believe it will go Super Nova and Die.... And if you planted enough Nukes at the core of the Sun you could cause it to Super Nova and collapse in on itself... but then it would take a stupid amount of Nukes.
But lets just go by some other Immortals in fiction, Vampires are not Immortal in a sense as they can be destroyed...
And our Engineers i would say are the same, they do seem to Age, unless the Elders and Engineers are not one of the same... They could live for fast periods of time but we just dont know, it could be hundreds, thousands or millions of years.
Then maybe their Cryo Pods can account for such things, as far as the movie goes we could assume if the Prometheus Hypersleep chambers was as advanced as the Engineers then a Holloway and Shaw could be alive in many thousands of years time...
But the Engineers can be killed, maybe they posses the tech and advancements to heal certain wounds, cure and be immune to many diseases. Maybe the Suits can heal themselves it would seem likely but do they and can they heal a actual wound that goes beyond the suit and wounds the Engineer itself...
Maybe or maybe not...
But they are not Immortal, like Vampires i would assume they can live for a vast amount of time, but they can be Mortally Wounded and killed, but they possess a ability to be able to recover and even not be effected my many kinds of Wounds that would prove Fatal to normal Mortals like Mankind.
Maybe just as Vampires have certain rules they need to stick to in order to survive and they require a certain lifeforce..
Maybe the Engineers rely on and require something to aid with their semi Immortality?
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Dec-13-2016 12:51 AM
the very fact there were elderly engineers confirm that they too have never beaten aging. thus curing weyland was impossible.
however I believe they have life extension techniques which they apply on themselves so they have huge muscular young bodies.
Jul-05-2017 6:34 AM
Ha ha nice to see SPAM Bump this thread...
Very interesting thread maybe the Newbies may want to give TWO Cents.... but first time to deal with the Spammers. :)
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Jul-22-2017 6:32 PM
No they are not, after Dr Elizabeth Shaw tried to re-animate the engineer head retrieved from the pyramid it exploded.
David comments "Mortal after all"
Sir Peter Weyland's quest for immortality was out of the belief that he as a creator could extend the life of his creations. Why not the engineers? Vickers knows her father's quest is a fool's errand, every king has his reign and then dies. It's inevitable.
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