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Space Jockey planet and culture?

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Ripley Clone 8

MemberOvomorphJun-18-2012 6:25 PM
[url=http://thenexusnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Prometheus-2.jpg][img]http://thenexusnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Prometheus-2.jpg[/img][/url] So in Prometheus we got to visually witness a Space Jockey or if you'd like call them "Engineers", some of their technology and culture. How do you think Prometheus 2 will expand on this? In what direction will Elizabeth Shaw and David take to show us the world in which the Space Jockey lives, grows and harnesses its knowledge of the Alien universe? And ultimately what do you think Ridley Scott or whoever may direct the sequel should do to make our experience bigger, better and even more intense than Prometheus?
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Richie

MemberOvomorphJun-18-2012 6:31 PM
You are asking some very good questions here....One thought stands out..Anyone that has been around that long wouldnt all live on the same planet but occupy several diffrent solar systems and the planets within them....there is no reason for this not to take place..We would move to mars if it was habitable

Bluesfool

MemberOvomorphJun-18-2012 6:33 PM
No body wants this to turn into star wars lol. I just hope the film happens. Im wishing it every day I wake up and check for prometheus news. pray it happens.

abordoli

MemberOvomorphJun-18-2012 6:55 PM
IMO (the film that I am producing in my head...lol) is one in which we first see a scene of what the Deacon is up to on LV-223. In "Prometheus: The Art of the Film" we see a two-page spread of the deacon walking towards the crashed juggernaut. What is luring him there? Is it important to Prometheus 2? Will we see this scene in the BluRay to be released on 10.9.12 (two days before the NY ComiCon starts on 10.11.12)? Second scene....The trip to the SJ "homeworld"....I want to see Shaw and David interact on their "jacked" juggernaut. I expect Shaw to be able to use the their cryopods and even be wearing a tailor-made engineer pressure suit. I hope to see David in two parts during the journey (I don't trust him). When they arrive I want them to be in disguise wearing the full suit (again, tailored or with "stilts" in the boots). I want them to land, David will know how to find a vacant bay and open their "bay doors". I want them to sneak around unnoticed for a good 30-45 minutes (observing technology & culture) and....then I want all hell to break loose for 90-75 minutes. In general, however, (and I've said this before) I want the "homeworld" to be a "ghost-town" for why else was valuable "cargo" left on LV-426 for 2,200 years and a military-base with 5 (perhaps more elsewhere on the moon) temples-turned-into-military-complexes left abandoned on LV-223 except for the obvious answer: too dangerous to try to contain? That is what I want to see..... This guy has some interesting thoughts:[url=http://whatculture.com/film/prometheus-5-things-we-want-to-see-in-a-sequel.php]http://whatculture.com/film/prometheus-5-things-we-want-to-see-in-a-sequel.php[/url]

shambs

MemberOvomorphJun-18-2012 6:57 PM
Personally I want to: 1) A second expedition to LV-223 (maybe and expedition of Yutani) to see what the crew of the Prometheus were found and where David and Shaw. This second expedition would be composed of colonial marines and then they fight with Deacon and his descendants. 2) On the other hand we will see Shaw and David coming to the planet of Engineers for answers (perhaps some details of the aspects of biology, culture and society of the Engineers). There they discover that the Engineers were created by another alien race even more powerful than them. So maybe there was a war 2000 years ago, a sort of revelion of the hosts of angels / demigods leaving the race of Engineers almost extinct. 3) But the most important of all: NO MORE LINDELOF!!! because I think we need some answers and this guy clearly does not give them to us.

Jett

MemberOvomorphJun-18-2012 8:01 PM
Ridley cut the Elders and I hope he buries them for good, the film's opening had more with less...it's not the first time he's made cuts for the good of a film and i hope it's not the last. Shaw and David moving on...hmmm...I was so wrong last time, except for Shaw and David survivng, lemme see... I think when they get to the homeworld, there's no one there, but there is a clue where to go next and it isn't Earth...and no matter how much she tries, Shaw can never meet the True God, the top level...it's beyond her and beyond all of us as well.

abordoli

MemberOvomorphJun-18-2012 8:40 PM
Is it me or do the engineers look like Jedi Knights/Masters sans lightsabers add goo holding utility-belts?

FREEZE!

Co-AdminMemberOvomorphJun-18-2012 8:43 PM
I wonder if the elders are more prone to kindness than the engineers?
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Bluesfool

MemberOvomorphJun-19-2012 12:31 AM
Shaw can never return home or Alien 1 cannot happen. They would know what the ships are and they clearly didnt in the Alien film. Shaw will NEVER return and neither will any other human cast members that are incorporated in the sequel. Thats the tricky part. This will be entirely shot in space and on distant planets will high casualties.

Custodian

MemberOvomorphJun-19-2012 3:16 AM
by Space Jockey, you clearly don't mean the ELEPHANT RACE who're clearly shown at the helm of the Derelict. I know.... I know, and I understand your collusion with the marketing scam, but (personally) I'm not convinced by this Pilot-inside-Ganesha mechanism Prometheus has given us. Those people running in the corridor are DEFINITELY Elephant people. The cryoing pilots are clearly something else. No? I wanna see ELEPHANT PLANET, that place even the Engineers are terrified of. :) Either that or A WORLD FULL OF FLOATING 'face of boo' heads roaming the desert, negotiating galacto-maniacal trade deals and talking Greek-goddish to each other like those creatures who FOLDED SPACE FROM IX in Dune.
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Claudia

MemberOvomorphJun-21-2012 6:54 AM
1) Second expedition to LV-223 to see what happend with the crew. Maybe they will found the creatures and they'll fight with them (and they'll die :) ) 2) Shaw and David go to the Engineers home planet to get answers a lot of questions. Why they created humans? Why wanted to kill every person in our planet? Space Jockeys are created by other species? Is there any war between Engineers and ... other civilisation? I want to get to know Space Jockeys world. Their culture, behavior, life, everyday life... 3) I hope Space Jockeys will be very agressive with Shaw and David, but...somehow kind with them too haha :D 4) Shaw can't return to Earth anymore. David MUST be die somehow.

RyansDad

MemberOvomorphJun-23-2012 7:11 PM
How about this... maybe WE are the biological weapon. Maybe the Xenomorphs were something else they were working on, it go out of their control and they were going to Earth to collect their greatest weapon: humans. We share the same DNA but they made us different somehow... maybe with a stronger survival instinct? Maybe the ability to reproduce (like a virus)... didn't see any female engineers. The ability to adapt and to make weapons. Maybe David's translation was wrong and he told the engineer we were there to do the engineers harm. He said his translation was based on a thesis.

HyperNova

MemberOvomorphJul-01-2012 2:32 PM
The only reason we don't see any female engineers as yet is most likely because the first theatrical release of the film was edited that way. One of those elders looks female or a wisened one in any case. We shall see in the latter re-edits, if any, and further releases into the future via DVD and on television, books of the making of subject matter for us all to ponder over.

BigDave

MemberDeaconJul-04-2012 1:49 PM
As i said in other posts there are now potential plot holes as far as Alien goes. If Yutani go to LV 223 then we have either a similar movie to Aliens or Prometheus. If Shaw and David go to the home world and its baron again that would be bland if they find nothing, and if they only come across something thats wiped them out then again we will have a movie too similar to Aliens. There has to be reasons why Prometheus never made sense with some scenes and left unanswered questions that seem to have had answers cut from the movie. There was a few different Fifield designs as far as the Mutation and it even looks like one other one was shot where he hare more Alien DNA and long limbs. As the Fifield that made it, well never looked infected with anything Alien just looked like the Elephant Man (hey maybe he had Space Jockey DNA lol... not Engineers but you know the Alien one lol). I think the reason Ridley went with the toned down Fifield, and why other concepts was not used and why we saw so little of the Hammerpede was so that the Alien DNA could be savored for the 3 money shots thats Shaws C-Section, Cuddles vs Bob and the Deacon. So i think that the Elder Engineer scene was cut because they did not want to give to much away or delve into the Elders in this movie as they wanted to keep them a mystery for Prometheus 2. It is this that i think is going on, and that the cut Elder Scene will appear in Prometheus 2 as a Flash Back to a event that links to the start of Prometheus. I think Prometheus 2 will be about the Engineers in detail, who they was, what they do, maybe why they set up those temples on LV 223.

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Rubirosa

MemberOvomorphJul-06-2012 10:53 PM
I could not agree with you more @Freeplanet. I have always been of the opinion that the Space Jockey in Alien is what it is. He is part of an Elephantine Alien race. I watch Alien at least once a month. Let me tell you that the Space Jockey scene is one of my favorites. The creature looks so grand and macbre sitting down on that turit. You can tell that its riv cafe is blown out. But the top of the rib cage is still attached to the long nose. Both Nose and rib cage are made of the same material which is bone. If the nose was a part of the suit. The noise would of fallen apart a very long time ago. Just look at the film and really pay attention to that part of the movie.

mountaindewbass

MemberOvomorphJul-11-2012 6:12 PM
I dunno. I do wish james cameron would direct the sequel though. Ridleys got the concepts... But as a director.. He lacks

Custodian

MemberOvomorphJul-12-2012 12:58 AM
rubirosa, tell me about it, it just seems logical that [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/9059]SPACE JOCKEY SEAT WAS BACK-ENGINEERED[/url] by the Engineers. MDB, don't you dare - imho James Cameron TOTALLY BROKE the alien concept of 'humans morph into eggs once caught by Alien' - all this Queen Alien just to fight with a Loader was (visually) fun but (lore-wise) a concept breaker. Alien is PURE, lethal - adaptive.
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Indy John

MemberOvomorphJul-19-2012 12:03 AM
"...Shaw can never return home or Alien 1 cannot happen.." This is a very good point,,,Not only knowlege of the SJ's craft..but nothing of the history presented in the Prometheus movie..No Engineers...demise of the spaceship 'Prometheus'' ///Weyland's death,,,and adventures of David/Show,, As I recall 'Alien' it was a virgin story ..a story with no background..everything was new.. Hmm that would mean that in this prequel we will know more than the mining ship could ever know! Plus Weyland Corp. would have to ciover up the adventures of the Prometheus...bury the story so deep..that nobody..outside of the Weyland Family would know the details..
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It'sLikeAnAnthive

MemberOvomorphJul-19-2012 9:08 PM
I'd have to agree FreePlanet and Rubirosa, I can't and refuse to believe that the space jockey from Alien is the same as the engineers in Prometheus. I'm sure they relate some how but it's not that hard to believe that there is more then just us, Xenos and Engineers in space. Maybe the Space Jockeys have created the Engineers or the Engineers look up to the Space Jockeys which would explain the similarities in the Space Jockeys and the Engineers suits. Or maybe the suits were the best way to travel long distances in space at the time. lol Either way I hope to see: a) Where Shaw and David go, if they successfully figure out their way to the Elder planet. Whether both Space Jockey and Engineers are there and I really hope they get some of their answers, or Shaw's answers. b) I think they need to finish off the story on LV-223 what happens to that pre-xenomorph and with an expedition that cost millions if not billions of dollars someone would most likely go check it out from either Weyland or Yutani. c) Eventually we need a merge of Weyland and Yutani but that could be for the third installment if we get it. d) I want to know what is in that room behind the xeno mural on the wall. Assuming it's a door or that there is a room behind but I really want to know what it means and how it affects the Engineers. There's probably more too but that's all I can think of for now.

wackiblackie

MemberOvomorphJul-22-2012 4:30 PM
@ BigDave-LOL:)Cuddle vs Bob! 3 money shots thats Shaws C-Section, Cuddles vs Bob and the Deacon.
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