fishkettlebanana
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:25 PMat one point in 2000 ridley and cameron did collaborate on prometheus as a joint venture, but AVP made them walk away
rubinis
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 2:32 PMYes IQs just drop but not ours. Maybe the IQ of Ridley Scot. Sorry.
Juxtapose
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 2:42 PM....nodody out their could have possible written a script that would have pleased all the fans....whether it's writing or directing....nothing anyone could have done could have pleased all the fan boys....it's simply impossible!....so like it or leave it....Prometheus is what it is....
Juxtapose
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 2:43 PM....and it's GREAT!
rogerharris
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 2:50 PMI cant believe this movie got bad reviews. Sign of the internet times ?
Ridley clearly takes the limited script of aliens (and directing of 3d movies) up on to another level entirely and its slated.
fishkettlebanana
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 2:51 PMif ridleys iq dropped he still has a genius rating
sorry but I think we're all being too critical
rubinis
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 2:57 PMYou are right. It is just one bad movie. He is genius and i like more of his stuff. But i`m dissapointed because he mislead us that this movie is really good.
Juxtapose
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:05 PM..the fanboys should get a room with the Xeno...then they can lick that smooth phallic head all night long....Prometheus is not about Xeno's...seriously and everyone is crying cause the xeno in the end does not look like their beloved creature....but it's not suppose to....WTF?.....Prometheus is intelligent it is set in juxtaposed mystery and plain old vintage sci-fi star trek....if it explained to much it would just become another sci-fi flick...another modern boring one....i love that it is polarizing critics and fans...it's not avatar or Aliens...this movie actually challenges it's viewers!
db73
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:06 PM"hands up if we know anyone who can do a better job."
James Cameron? The proof is in the pudding and Cameron now has a better pedigree then Scott. It's clear to me now. Alien and Blade Runner were flukes. A coming together of all the required ingredients at just the right time. It's not something, I now understand, can really be planned or manufactured. This is what I have learned from Ridely Scott's Prometheus.
rubinis
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:10 PMHah you are so wrong. I`m a fan but only if movies are good. And this movie is not. And it is more Alien than you think, just the bad one. DB73 i totally agree with you. I like RS visual stuff and maybe with some good script he can do better.
db73
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:14 PM[b]"Hah you are so wrong."[/b]
'We were wrong, we were so wrong.'
Christ, you got that right Rapace! It could'nt have been more wrong!
private problem
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:14 PMthis film is a good sci fi yarn ,god knows what people expect. in 2 years time it will be regarded as one of his best. its his story , and we have paid to see it. it makes me laugh how so many people on here are so full of self importance that they feel the have a final view on the film . its a film,its entertainment ,get a life :)
rogerharris
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:15 PMA case of expecting too much i think. Ridley Scott is a director who specializes in co-ordinating people and systems of production to get a story across with impact and depth, not a lone writing visionary that can figure out life the universe and everything AND direct it. Is there any one person capable of all that ?
Ridley has surpassed all his previous works, producing the otherword 3d feel (you did see it in 3d didnt you ?) like this, while remaining consistent with what the original aliens is about, and progressing it intellectually as much as can be done for just now. Its not lost in space, or star trek but as realistic an immersion trip into the dark side of life which Ridley specializes in.
Merc7
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:17 PMPrometheus summary:
Holloway: Wooooooooooh yeah baby! - (This guy is actually a scientist)
Fifield: These are my puppies aaaoooooooooooooooh! (The geologist in the film)
Engineer; *blows a flute* (Our creators, who remained unexplained, and they have flutes)
Juxtapose
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:18 PM...i would'nt mind Cameron doing a sequel....even better if Ridley and Cameron collaborated...i still prefer Aliens to Alien....but it would be curious to see what they can do together!
fishkettlebanana
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:20 PMdb73
you are right
Ridley al;ways confessed to outer forces making his film a better picture as early as The Duellists. this is one reason I am doubtful of a blade runner sequel, because blade runner had a little bit of unplanned movie magic. all the forces in the universe did align for that picture
I illustrate for a living and the pictures i think will turn out good, don't
and what I think are failures do work
Juxtapose
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:20 PM...i would'nt mind Cameron doing a sequel....even better if Ridley and Cameron collaborated...i still prefer Aliens to Alien....but it would be curious to see what they can do together!
Juxtapose
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:33 PM...trouble is that ridley is rather old and he's already committed himself to several other projects....So i would be fine if Cameron took over after his Avatar prequels....(assuming they are prequels...sam had his twin brother and Sigourney is rumored to star again...so it's save to say it's gonna be prequels)....still would love to see these 2 directors collaborate....can you imagine!
shardy
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:35 PM@db73: lol....! Cameron is the very definition of a modern day,
over hyped plagiarist if EVER there was one. thanx for your post,
i needed a good laugh on a boring Sunday
Cameron-to-the-rescue
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:35 PMCan anyone explain what happened to all 17 crew members? Where did 8 disappear out of the script to? Just decided they had enough and went home for dinner yea?
Cameron-to-the-rescue
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:37 PMWho were all 17 of the crew members? Nothing like character depth and continuity. Unfortunate for RS I dont have the memory and attention span of a goldfish.
db73
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:40 PM"@db73: lol....! Cameron is the very definition of a modern day,
over hyped plagiarist if EVER there was one. thanx for your post,
i needed a good laugh on a boring Sunday."
That may be. But as far as Sci-Fi goes he now has a higher, more consistent body of work under his belt than Scott. Just saying. He's better at this than Scott is.
db73
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:43 PM"Can anyone explain what happened to all 17 crew members?"
We're there 17? I had no idea. It felt like there were only about 7 or 8 at most! And only 2 of them were of much significance to the film as it turned out.
Cameron-to-the-rescue
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:46 PMWould have been nice to know exactly what happened to make Fifield turn out the way he did. What was the black stuff again? Holloway got burned before we even saw what was going to happen to him. Can anyone tell me why David spiked Holloways drink? I must have missed that part. I must have missed alot. So much was left unexplained.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa7Hnkmq_po&feature=related
Thanks Captain Janek, for telling everyone most of the plot, they saved a few quid on telling the story unfold, like most people with half a brain were expecting huh?
Slipp_Digby
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:47 PMThis thread is bang on.
This is clearly a multi faceted high art piece which possesses subtle yet meaningful nuances and insights which will only be revealed to those who have superior reasoning ability and who keep the faith.
Cameron-to-the-rescue
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:51 PMPrometheus had 17 crew members. Most just vanished and whay where they there? It was a poor teen movie, lets admit it.
BTW Cameron is not my favorite director, but he can save this franchise, it cant get any worse can it?
Cameron-to-the-rescue
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:53 PMNice to see Davids head works fine after being decapitated. I bet Ash in Alien wished he was as well put together, I guess by that time they did not make Androids like they used to....
rogerharris
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:57 PM[quote]This thread is bang on.
This is clearly a multi faceted high art piece which possesses subtle yet meaningful nuances and insights which will only be revealed to those who have superior reasoning ability and who keep the faith.[/quote]
Well said. Only those with sensibility are going to understand the extra depth he innovated, and there is a hint at a new level of looking at the politics of life in movies thats taken the meeting sections in 2001 a space oddesy a step further (see that first to get the end of this film).
And what is the other race ? Are they just military grunts with a large grant playing around and represent a fraction of a completely complex civilization ? it appears like simple people are not seeing whats opened up in here. Give cameron a film and he just closes it down.
As for the spectacle of art, go and see it in 3d at the very least or you arent going to get what has been achieved here. The next version will be a frank herbert, dave lynch style piece i hope. Please not cameron.
Cameron-to-the-rescue
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:57 PMThe Flute! haha! Ok, I think the Engineers hate us, because Prometheus stole the technology of musical instruments from them and gave it to humans... or something? Seriously, after the cheese I saw, that would not suprise me...
rogerharris
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:59 PMits like liberal vs conservative (or smart vs slightly less smart)
Ridley (liberal, opens things up) vs (cameron, conservative, closes things down).