artyoh
MemberOvomorphJun-02-2012 2:14 PMFrom the interview:
"There were drafts that were more explicitly spelled out. I think Ridley’s instinct kept being to pull back, and I would say, “Ridley, I’m still eating shit a year after Lost is over for all the things we didnt directly spell out, Are you sure you want to do this?” And he said, “I would rather have people fighting about it and not know then spell it out.”
lol.....as I suspected, people are blaming Lindelof for "loose ends," when Scott should be the focus of their anger. While there's a fine line between ambiguity and incoherence, I plan on making up my own mind whether or not Ridley Scott crossed that line.
This movie is Ridley Scott's baby. Good or bad, it's [i]all[/i] on him.
alteredstate.
MemberOvomorphJun-02-2012 2:17 PM[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01j9gz6]Your text to link here...[/url]
heres the interview with kermode and scott fast forward to 36 mins into the player
Arkadine
MemberOvomorphJun-02-2012 2:23 PMWhat is he referring at "what happened 2000 thousand years ago that might have pissed the Engineers" Might he be referring to the Crucifixion? that would be totally loopy
the coming
MemberOvomorphJun-02-2012 2:23 PMLOOOOL
So Lindelof is saying, everything in this movie WOULD make sense, if only we knew the full story...and watch it more than 1 time (because he can make more money that way)
This movie insulted me enough, and now he is insulting me in an interview...I am getting a little sick of this guy I really hope his fradulent career is at an end soon
Arkadine
MemberOvomorphJun-02-2012 2:28 PMOMG and he is hinting at a sequel set 2000 years ago... what are we talking about: The Passion Of the Christ meets Lost with Alien DNA?
Prouty99
MemberOvomorphJun-02-2012 2:33 PMSounds like Lindelof attempting to distance himself from 'the shit' that he is apparently still eating for the Lost debacle
I think he's lost his appetite for a second helping
In my opinion, and i stress this is my own opinion, i got hooked into the Lost thing along with everyone else, but after it descended into the poo i wouldn't have hired Lindelof to carry out my garbage, let alone mess with the Alien concept
Look what happened when Whedon turned resurrection into Buffy the alien slayer
Then again everyone told me that Fincher ruined alien 3, but i think that alien 3 has matured, and on revisiting now i think it's inspired, at least facing the species without any weapons at all was a master vision, and the acting, and cinematography was first rate.
Lindelof shouldn't have been allowed to write another line for anything after lost
alteredstate.
MemberOvomorphJun-02-2012 2:38 PMfast forward to 36 mins in the player?
the coming
MemberOvomorphJun-02-2012 2:41 PM@prouty...he is ruining Star Trek next...nothing will make sense and it will end with 'lots of questions' that we would understand if only we werent such morons...maybe after 6 viewings...bring your family too...and while you are there buy some of our beverages
You know how in the movie 'Prestige' that man says "these tricks are worthless without the Prestige", i.e. the finale...well that is Lindelof, he is worthless because he never finishes the final act
alteredstate.
MemberOvomorphJun-02-2012 3:29 PMstarts the interview at 36.00 mins in and ends with a review at 1hr.18mins in total talking about the pros and cons of prometheus skip the news bulletins in between
davedubya
MemberOvomorphJun-02-2012 5:19 PMFilms shouldn't spell everything out and hold your hand through the whole thing, they should allow room for the viewer to think about it and decide for themselves.
Moviegoers are intelligent and need that ambiguity.
alteredstate.
MemberOvomorphJun-02-2012 5:33 PMAgree there's nothing much to spell out its all very linear but there are exposition plot details that would have helped to give a more complete vision to the plausibility /reasoning to some of the choices and decisions to fund such an expensive expedition as well as fundamental areas of explanation as to the purpose of an overall basis to some of the films big themes.
I had a ball for the most part the films good, there are some points however that could have been refined a lot better script wise in my humble opinion.
Prouty99
MemberOvomorphJun-02-2012 7:15 PMI dont want spoon feeding, but i also dont want to enter with 10 questions, and walk out with 25 questions.
I, and friends were stating that we hoped that Lost wasnt going to end up stupidly with them all being dead, after episode 3 of the first series. How many times have we seen that idea utilised in tv and film making
6 years, and much stringing along later....I aint gonna get that time back.
i smell the same cheap trick ,but this time messing with the masterpiece concept i grew up with. Lindelof is good at starts, has weak middles, but has no concept of endings.
Prometheus follows this pattern. first 20 to 25 minutes is stunning in every way, gets weaker in the middle, and struggles for an ending
Prouty99
MemberOvomorphJun-02-2012 7:20 PM@ the coming
Its like the cinema merchandising...
That hot dog is great when you start to eat it, but you get all bloaty in the middle, and at the end you just want to expel it from your system questioning why you thought it was a good idea to eat it, why you even bought one because you had lunch before going to the movie, and what the hell are hot dogs made of anyway....
Lindelof-dogs affect you that way
artyoh
MemberOvomorphJun-02-2012 11:14 PM
Lindelof makes a very public statement that Scott is almost certainly aware of, and could easily deny.......but if the movie is incomprehensible, you [i]still[/i] believe it's Lindelof's fault?
Wow! there are some major sour grapes on this thread, re: "Lost."
Playmaker
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 1:06 AMArkadine, I just posted a [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/6544]spoiler theory[/url] a film critic touched upon concerning the whole "2,000 years ago" line. Might interest you.
I'de love to hear your thoughts.
Prouty99
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:11 PMLindelof has already said that there will never be a sequel linked to Alien, whereas Scott has stated that it would take 3 movies to link Prometheus to the start of Alien
Looks like Damon is losing sight of who the director is on this project
rogerharris
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:30 PM------Prometheus follows this pattern. first 20 to 25 minutes is stunning in every way, gets weaker in the middle, and struggles for an ending---------
the middle was to keep it consistent with what aliens is all about and improved on the previous films. If it had been done in any other way there would have been worse reviews.
Somebody else who didnt watch it in 3d ? The visual aspect increases in intensity at the end sections, which is the idea, as its trying to wrap up the story with drama so we can link it the next film (or not depending on reality !). The end also allows us a glimpse into how immensely visual future science fiction has the potential to be. Aside from the limited star trek style computer graphics, which should be better, its become hyper-real at this stage. But then All aliens movies have this backwards graphics in them, so to remain consistent he had to present the idea that computer graphics (as used by humans) remain undeveloped or reach some kind of point of maximal peak in the future.
the amount of characters decrease at end, and we get a feeling (if you were allowing yourself to be immersed) there is more stark and barren landscape, and we get more of a feeling any kind of world or reality can happen in the next movie. We are also now not stuck with the constraints of the previous movies which have now been dealt with. The way is now paved for massive writing talent to happen in the next films, so as a director he did his job on several levels, and as usual pushed the cinematic envelope.
rogerharris
MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 3:30 PM[quote]------Prometheus follows this pattern. first 20 to 25 minutes is stunning in every way, gets weaker in the middle, and struggles for an ending---------[/quote]
the middle was to keep it consistent with what aliens is all about and improved on the previous films. If it had been done in any other way there would have been worse reviews.
Somebody else who didnt watch it in 3d ? The visual aspect increases in intensity at the end sections, which is the idea, as its trying to wrap up the story with drama so we can link it the next film (or not depending on reality !). The end also allows us a glimpse into how immensely visual future science fiction has the potential to be. Aside from the limited star trek style computer graphics, which should be better, its become hyper-real at this stage. But then All aliens movies have this backwards graphics in them, so to remain consistent he had to present the idea that computer graphics (as used by humans) remain undeveloped or reach some kind of point of maximal peak in the future.
the amount of characters decrease at end, and we get a feeling (if you were allowing yourself to be immersed) there is more stark and barren landscape, and we get more of a feeling any kind of world or reality can happen in the next movie. We are also now not stuck with the constraints of the previous movies which have now been dealt with. The way is now paved for massive writing talent to happen in the next films, so as a director he did his job on several levels, and as usual pushed the cinematic envelope.