Biggest Letdowns

I having a hard time with the black veins taking over bodies. I have seen them use a lot of current horror flicks. I be watching the technology very closly, but I dont buy the fact the nostromo was old tech junk being used the in the future. Although there will be surviors, noone is going back to earth, so Part 2 a search party with "This time is War" theme since we getting owned pretty much in Prometheus. RS don't let me down as you did in Robin Hood.

Redleader...the old tech is on a commercial towing vehicle, not the top of a line corporate vessel like this the Prometheus.....think of it like stepping onto an oil refinery as opposed to a corporate jet.....

"M-Class Starfreighter, a rather expensive piece of hardware. 42 million in ajusted dollars minus payload" - DOS vs Touch Holo Screen, I hope you are right. The company is whinning about it 130 years later that it was top of the line?

The company is making an insurance claim and are exaggerating the numbers.

Well i yelled when they messed up The THING lol

Well, technology is not all about DOS vs touchscreens. As a matter of fact touchscreens are an advanced gadget in terms of HMI, hardly the herald of technology in a space ship. When they refer to expensive hardware they refer to engines (this ship has to travel FTL, land on a planet and take off again without any major setups!), life support systems, artificial gravity and tons of other "primitive" devices which usually cost unbelievable money to be Space Qualified and don't necessarily (or at all) require an iPad interface. And no one of those systems has been invented yet (or anyway is advanced enough). And aside from that, a refinery alone, no matter how old, dirty or whatever it appears, is worth BILLIONS of present day dollars.

My let down would be: Any hint of time travel Any thing to to with the SJs coming from Alantis Androids becoming the xeno Xeno species being created as a result of the crew

Ah, I get you. The concept of the crew travelling to the past, being used to breed xenos and then their offspring affect the crew's/humanity's future. One of those ironic twists that disobeys time travel paradox [url=http://alienage11.com]Alienage11.com[/url] - sight unseen

@alienaged11 Yeah. I am hoping for a plausible story and not some far out movie based on some wacky scifi premise that tries to be to clever

Yep. The old 'mindbender' trick ;)

TheNextLV426 has named my one and only possible letdown for this film - time travel. I'm counting on Ridley Scott and admittedly fearing Damon Lindelof which from the start has been my only reservation about "Prometheus". No amount of spin or rationale from him can excuse the complete lie that surrounded the heart of "Lost," at least in my mind.

In my opinion, Lindelof is a great MOVIE script writer. The problems with 'Lost' it sounds to me, were in the fact that the network wanted such a successful show to have an indefinite plot. And in network TV land, there's nothing better to keep from writing yourself into a corner, or to just cure an old fashioned case of writer's block, than a good ol' fashioned time warp. Or wormhole, or whatever you call it. Surely they can can give us 2 hours of original sci-fi without having to revert to a Planet of the Apes type ending.

Necrofan, I absolutely agree Lindelof is a great writer, talented no doubt and on "Lost" was conscripted to work in the confines of television, but he was part of a very bitter, to some, lie. And I hope that his work on Prometheus erases my perceptions, because he's very good at character developement. I'm sure he has more than time travel to go to in a pinch, and I'm hoping Ridley Scott has him on a leash.

These things would be let downs for me: 1. The film suggesting or declaring that extraterrestrials are solely responsible for the origin or creation of mankind. However, I don’t mind the concept of extraterrestrial tampering or experimentation on primordial human genetics. 2. The alien vessel turns out to be same ship as the derelict in the original in the 1979 ALIEN film. 3. The planet featured in the trailer turns out to be Acheron/LV426, 30 years prior to the Nostromo landing. I’m pretty much game for anything else…including the humanoid being a kind of Space Jockey. In fact, I actually really like the idea of the humanoid being the “bad guy.” For me, the less human a character looks, the less terrifying it becomes…because it’s what we humans know. That is why films like The Exorcist, Night of the Living Dead, Halloween, Psycho, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, etc…were so successful, and have stood the test of time. IMO, The thing that made the original Alien creature so scary to so many, was its human qualities…more than its nonhuman qualities...its strangely familiar features, like its sinister, scull-like grin, its birth, its limbs, and its movements. Just like in the film “The Thing.” The final creature form was not nearly as horrifying as the earlier images of twisted human faces…or the infamous spider-legged head…“You gotta be fuckin’ kidding!” Ha! That line still cracks me up! ~N

@Neurion I am with you completely on your MAIN 3 list. And to that, I will also put myself in the please GOD no flipping TIME TRAVEL column.. ever!! That is the most over-used and over-abused ridiculous "sci-fi" concept. The idea of "Time Dilation" is one thing.. but going forward or backward in time... Please.

wow Neurion I got some bad news for you. #1- It is almost a certainty that this film is going to explore who DID seed this planet. I think it's self-denial at this point to deny this. #2-If the Alien vessel turns out to be ANYTHING AT ALL OTHER THAN THE DERELICT FROM ALIEN...i will be severely annoyed because that would make ZERO SENSE...IT HAS TO BE THE DERELICT...IT HAS TO BE NEURION AT THIS POINT. i REALIZE IT could turn out not to be, but for me it would make 100% of ZERO SENSE for it to be anything BUT The Derelict. #3-If that planet is ANYTHING BUT LV-426 30+ YEARS BEFORE THE EVENTS OF NOSTROMO this film once again, will be making zero sense to me. I love you Neurion, and I am saying this with all due respect... I think you have ALL OF THIS BACKWARDS. IT HAS TO BE THOSE THINGS, THOSE VERY THINGS. ANYTHING ELSE WOULD MAKE NO SENSE AT ALL TO ME OR IN ANY FILM PORTRAYING THAT UNIVERSE.

I dont agree at all Spart... With respect to # 1, that would then mean that we would vitually have to discount all that WE ALREADY know about our own evolution and the "versions" of us that existed before we got to "us". That "birth" of man scene or whatever it is?? ((Really no one even knows what the really meaning of that scene is yet)) shows something that looks MOSTLY like us now. It certainly doesn't show a hairy Neandertal or Cro-magnon human there with a big boney forehead and pronounced eyebrow line. So that then would either mean that the SJ's.. or whoever... WIPED out what should have been our "relatives" and completely replaced them about 50,000 years ago with us..... Or, maybe bluey black vein had to do the nasty with some really hairy half-woman/half-monkey cave girls... Hahahaha

I have to agree with TheNextLV426. I'm sick of time travel as a plot line but with so-called "hyper-light" drive vessels, perhaps it cannot be avoided. I also don't like the premise that Humans are the SJ's. I'd like to see a "stand-alone," non-human species or whatever remains of one. Please, no "Planet of the Apes" type ending.

i see it like this, if nothing else this film is going to present us with the idea that we were NOT the first group of people on this planet and we have been told over and over and over and over by Ridley Scott himself and everyone surrounding him how ignorant it has been of us to think that we were the first inhabitants of earth and that we were NOT seeded by some alien race, this is EXACTLY WHAT RIDLEY HAS WANTED TO EXPLORE ALL ALONG AND SAID HE WANTED TO EXPLORE ALL ALONG. THE VIDEO WE SAW YESTERDAY FROM SOME GUY WHO WENT OFF ON A RANT TALKING ABOUT WHAT THIS FILM IS ABOUT IMO IS DEAD BANG ON THE MONEY. LASTLY i THINK A LOT OF YOU ARE DELIBERATELY SETTING YOURSELVES UP TO BE VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THIS FILM QUITE SIMPLY BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT NONE OF YOU WHO TAKE THAT STANCE HAVE BEEN LISTENING AT ALL VERY WELL TO THE PEOPLE WHO MADE IT. IT IS ABOUT MUCH BIGGER THEMES THAN SOME OTHER RACE OR EXTRA TERRESTRIAL BEINGS, IT IS ABOUT WHAT THAT OTHER RACE HAS TO DO WITH US HUMANS HERE EVEN BEING ON EARTH. YOU HAVEN'T BEEN HEARING WHAT RIDLEY SCOTT HIMSELF HAS BEEN SAYING ABOUT ALL OF THIS...AND IF IT TURNS OUT I AM WRONG I WILL WRITE A 12 PAGE APOLOGY THE DAY AFTER THE FILM IS RELEASED...I MEAN COME ON MAN...THE THING STARTS WITH EARTH PEOPLE LOOKING FOR CLUES TO THE ORIGIN OF LIFE ON EARTH ON EARTH AND THEN GOING TO THIS PLACE IN SPACE THEY THINK THEY'VE BEEN INVITED TO TO CONFRONT THIS VERY NOTION. WHERE HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN ALL THIS PAST 18 MONTHS? LMAO. JUST SAYING. I LOVE YOU GUYS ALL THE SAME BUT [b]IMO[/b] YOUR NOT JUST WRONG, YOU ARE WAY WAY WAY OFF TO START OFF WITH...TO EVEN CONSIDER THAT THIS ALL ISN'T ABOUT THE ORIGINS OF MANKIND.

@Spartacus Actually I take the opposite view. RS has said on many many many occasions that Prometheus is NOT NOT NOT a prequel to Alien, so I think some of you guys will be up for major disappointment when Prometheus doesn't end with a xeno bursting out of the ribs of the SJ on a the derelict. If the movie ends that way then a) its a prequel, b) there is little scope for expanding the universe. The movie doesn't have to be set on LV426 or feature the same SJ to be part of the same Alien universe, but it does have to be set on LV426 and feature the same SJ to be a prequel. 60 days and well see :-)

Here's, for me, the big thing he and those surrounding and involved in the making of it have said a dozen or so times now... [quote]It’s basically about trying to find out if there was intervention in the birth of civilization on planet Earth by other beings, which we come to know as Engineers, and whether they had a master plan in mind for us.[/quote]

I have said this many times before but now I am going to say it again but in a much different way, if you want to have some understanding of what's going on in this film ON THE DAY YOU ARE WATCHING IT, right now, it would be a real real real real real great idea to start downloading or buying and watching every single Ancient Aliens episode starting with he Pilot episode. I say it's time for people to get ONE thing straight in their heads right now and accept it cause otherwise they ARE ALL GOING TO BE VERY DISAPPOINTED. This whole thing...all of it...revolves around the [b]ANCIENT ASTRONAUT THEORY[/b] !!! & There is just absolutely no denying this anymore now !!!

Spartacus....I haven't seen those episodes you refer to but if they have anything to do with travelling through time, then that theory of yours can only be in one place...for me to poop on.

@Spartacus Agreed about the ancient astronaut theory. I think that is beyond question. But as I mention above, the disappointment is going to come to those who expect the movie to be based around LV426 and that particular SJ.

The NextLV426....and the highly likely probability in my view that there's no Giger Alien...more than a bitter pill for a lot of people..not me.

@Dutch I think that is why RS has gone to such lengths to distance the film from Alien because there is no xeno. If people turn up expecting the xeno then they are going to be disappointed. Personally I don't mind either way. I expect the film to be unmistakeably Alien without having a xeno running around.

I dont necessarily want time travel either, but time is a dimension that can be moved through, back or forwards, theoretically. Worm holes are closely related to time travel and without them, or something else just as fantastic, we'll never see a planet outside of our solar system. So you better hope it's not just theoretical!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@Dutch, not to worry...Time travel is not part f the AA theory in general. The AA theory has nothing to do with Time Travel at all.

Last thing, and it's something I have mentioned here many times before but everyone seems to just discard and not remember it... [b]What WAS ACTUALLY Said was we will not being seeing the exact same ALIEN from the film ALIEN...not in THAT FORM. Not in the form we remember seeing it in. That's all.[/b] “What if you could meet God but God turned out to be the Devil?” So asks Prometheus Executive Producer Michael Ellenberg of the themes at the heart of Ridley Scott’s first return to science fiction since his seminal work on Alien and Blade Runner. [b] At the core of Scott’s story are the eternal questions of human existence: who are we and where do we come from?[/b] As Michael Fassbender summarises: [b]“It’s basically about trying to find out if there was intervention in the birth of civilisation on planet Earth by other beings[/b], which we come to know as Engineers, and whether they had a master plan in mind for us.” Like all good science fiction, the germ of the idea began in examining the real world. Explains Ellenberg: “Ridley was inspired by everything from the Nazca Lines in Peru, which are these vast Earth sculptures can only be seen from the air, to cave paintings in France, to ancient Egypt and ancient Mayan civilisations. We’re pushing beyond what’s been found thus far and speculating about what maybe found in the future.” For director Ridley Scott, the themes of Prometheus are a reaction to an abundance of post-apocalyptic cinema. Prometheus isn’t necessarily about looking forward, at what we might become, but it’s about looking back, at where we might have come from. “It’s about the beginning of life and the eternal ‘what if’,” explains Scott. “Has this ball we’ve been sitting on right now been around for three billion years or one billion? And if we haven’t been pre-visited (by alien civilisations), then what was this planet doing for all that time before life came along? It’s only our arrogance that says, ‘No, it’s impossible, we’re the first ones.’ Are we the first hominids? I really, really, really doubt it. In recent memory or legend we keep talking about wonderful, weird things such as Atlantis – what is that? Where does that come from? Is that real, was it real, is it a memory, did it exist? And if that did exist, did it exist three quarters of a billion years ago? There’d be nothing left now. How was that created and who was it?” After working on a draft with screenwriter Jon Spaihts, Scott called writer Damon Lindelof, best known as a co-creator of Lost, and asked him to collaborate on the script. “Ridley first called me in mid-July of (2010),” he remembers. “I’d never met him before, but obviously I was a massive fan of his work. I was driving in my car when the phone rang and a voice on the other end said, ‘Ridley Scott is going to call you in five minutes, are you available?’ After crashing my car and dealing with the immediate aftermath of that, I started talking to Ridley Scott. I was sort of trembling when he called me on the phone and he said he was going to send me a script.” Spaihts’s draft was a direct prequel to Alien, and Scott explained to Lindelof that he was aiming to branch off into slightly more original territory. “He was also driven by these bigger thematic ideas about what this movie could be about,” says Lindelof. “We started having conversations, and as a result of those conversations we worked very closely together for a couple of months, rewriting the script until he was satisfied that it felt like it was its own movie.” Adds Lindelof: “The amazing thing that Ridley does, as a director, is ground big ideas in some sort of fundamental reality. What’s cool about this movie is that it doesn’t take place on Earth, in any real significant way, so the way that we’re experiencing the future is really away from Earth. It’s more about what people are like now. What have they gone through? What are the things that they’re thinking about? The idea that we’re basically all going to be the same a hundred years from now, but we might be driven by different ideas, is what’s driving the movie.” Production designer Arthur Max says the themes have been key to the way he’s envisioned the look of the film. “Very loosely, these creatures are some kind of genetic Engineers on an interplanetary level,” he teases. “They go around creating life. In certain ways, they’re kind of God-like.” Logan Marshall-Green plays Holloway. He sums up the importance of Prometheus‘s thematic tapestry as being, “a movie based on a philosophy and not an alien. The movie’s intelligence holds you through most its runtime before you get in to all the action. You’re turning the page not just because of what happens but what is said.“ Laughs Marshall-Green: “Certainly, it makes an argument that will move away Darwinism, let’s just say!” “Prometheus, in literature, was a Titan who stole fire from the Gods because they were keeping it to themselves and they were worried what mankind would do if we got our little paws on it,” teases Lindelof. “That theme is a resonating idea in Prometheus, the movie; what humans are doing that we probably shouldn’t be doing, in terms of technological innovation and, perhaps, exploration. Is there a line that shouldn’t be crossed? Part of the fun of the movie is understanding why we call it Prometheus.” For Fassbender, the film’s themes reflect in the way the characters on board Prometheus interact with one another. “There’s always politics within, and that’s why, I think, this cast got together. The tempo, the pace, the intelligence of the script; each person has got their own agenda on that ship and it’s each a very individual agenda. Some people are there for the pay. Other people are there to get answers. Other people are there to hopefully attain some sort of secret. Others are there in somewhat of a spite journey. You’ve got all these collective relationships, individuals and motivations and that’s what makes quite intriguing even before the shit hits the fan.” Charlize Theron found her connection to the film’s themes in the dark motivations of her character. “I thought there was tremendous potential to explore themes that the script was already exploring, through the eyes of a character that was so different from everybody else who’s on this mission,” she says. “You have these scientists going out there – one is a believer, one really isn’t – and you play on all these themes, but to really experience all of that stuff from the point of view of somebody who comes from a much more cold, economic, business suit sense of it was interesting.” “I think that one of the really interesting ideas that the movie is dealing with,” describes Lindelof, “is this sense that space exploration, particularly in the future, is going to start to be not just about going out there and finding planets, so that we can build colonies, or anything else, but also this inherent idea that, the further we go out, perhaps the more we learn about ourselves. And, I think the characters in this movie – some of them at least – are very preoccupied with the idea of, ‘Where did we come from? What are our origins? What is our place in the universe? Are we the only sentient beings, or are there others?’” It’s this point that Lindelof thinks really separates it from Alien. “In Alien it was just, ‘Hey, we’re miners. Oh, we ended up stepping in this huge pile of very frightening shit!’ So, although there are elements like that in this movie – and there certainly are scares – the idea of fundamentally and thematically exploring this idea of creation was always a big deal for Ridley.” ...and THAT...SHOULD PUT AN END TO ANY DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT THIS IS GOING TO BE ABOUT AND IF THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH MANKIND'S ORIGINS AND EXISTENCE ON EARTH.

I dont care if it leads into alien or not any longer. I view it like star trek. This is Enterprise to the original series. Might set up a few things but that is it. It even has the tech issues no matter how they tried to make things look more dated on "Enterprise" it still looked more advanced then the 60's show. If I see a chestburster, face hugger, or xeno I will be disappointed. I want to know about the jockey race, but the one on LV426? Meh. It doesn't matter if it is directly his story or not.