Cryo
MemberOvomorphMar-31-2012 1:58 PMIt was actually shown at the teaser in 2011. There are lots of threads about it and for what we have seen at the very last trailer it is a sort of helmet.
BigDave
MemberDeaconMar-31-2012 2:00 PMYep going by the last scene where you see something on the Chair thats not there when the SJ is seated in it, makes me think its 100% a mask.
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CanadaPhil
MemberOvomorphMar-31-2012 2:07 PMHelmet?? Why would they be examining a "helmet" in a medical bay??
That has NEVER been my take at all. The head to me appears to be actual flesh and you can see the actual mouth structure, eye sockets, etc.
The Helmet (as shown in the SJ still right on this very homepage NEWs section) is something entirely different altogether.
Replicant
MemberOvomorphMar-31-2012 2:13 PMgood point.... perhaps sj skull?
jimp84
MemberOvomorphMar-31-2012 2:13 PMI feel like the picture on the homepage is showing the same thing as in the trailer where I specified. I don't think it looks like a helmet either, but I could be wrong.
WhyDontTheyFreezeHim
MemberOvomorphMar-31-2012 2:23 PMI just want to know why theyve got a helmet on a medical table.
Or maybe it isnt a medical table and is actually something like a science examining table instead? Would make more sense.
BigDave
MemberDeaconMar-31-2012 2:23 PMEnd of the day we just dont know and wont know untill the Movie comes out.
It could be a mask with the head inside as in one still on the internet you see a Space Jockey with no head on the ground. Looking at the scene of the Jockey in the seat it apears to me that its a mask and a Bio Mechanical one.
So its not a case of they found a Helmit like a man made bikers one, the Helmet could be most likely organic.
The Science team would be intrigued even at the finding of a Helmet.
If we landed on Mars and found a pair of Alien Space Boots are we just gonna ignore them and say nope leave it we want what wore those boots.
Again from what i have seen potentially this head/mask has been picked up at the scene next to a fallen SJ Body.
Whats the alternative? that indeed the SJ are large Elepant looking beings.
Then what of the Blue Guy in various parts of the Trailers?
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CanadaPhil
MemberOvomorphMar-31-2012 2:24 PMNo sure if this link is going to work, but how is that a "helmet"? (btw.. You cant see Shaw in the frame, but if you could, you would see that the scale of the head is HUGE in relation to us.
[img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwnsasSzBB1qmz9r9o1_400.png[/img]
jimp84
MemberOvomorphMar-31-2012 2:32 PMNice pic CanadaPhil. If it is really just a helmet, it sure looks life like. I guess that's what Bio Mechanical kind of implies though...
CanadaPhil
MemberOvomorphMar-31-2012 2:32 PMPlus... here is a pic from a topic GEM started a couple days ago titled DEAD SPACE JOCKEY I think. This is where the first find this next to a dead SJ body....
[img]http://oi44.tinypic.com/6rprao.jpg[/img]
BigDave
MemberDeaconMar-31-2012 2:33 PM[img]http://3danimationcgi.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/prometheus-space-jockey.jpg[/img]
Again looks simular to me and again maybe colour is different because if its Organic it could have mummified or rotted, like how a Log of Wood would look slightly more lifeless than it would when it was on a living Tree.
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Heustess
MemberOvomorphMar-31-2012 2:34 PMYep possibly fossilised as well.
MarcoBot1234
MemberOvomorphMar-31-2012 2:36 PMIt looks like a severed head. It could be right after they sent those orbs through the tunnels (the ones with the red lasers) that this was in fact the life form they picked up on the scanners.
Point is we've received a lot of information concerning Prometheus through trailers, interview, magazines and it is GREAT (yet at the same time somewhat frustrating) how little we actually know about the story and plot direction it will take us.
Yes we have many many MANY theories about this film but in the end they are just theories. Very interesting thought provoking theories from many intelligent members of this forum.
You guys keep my anticipation of this movie at an all time high! Thanks! Hopefully it will speed up the release date for this movie lol
CanadaPhil
MemberOvomorphMar-31-2012 2:36 PM@jimp...
Yes, but isnt it obvious that that is VERY different from what many describe as the "helmeted" pilot.
To me, that looks to what is actually UNDERNEATH the "bio-helmet" which forms around the "pilot" when seated.
jimp84
MemberOvomorphMar-31-2012 2:36 PMWow! It never really occurred to me how big these things are going to be.
jimp84
MemberOvomorphMar-31-2012 2:38 PMCanadaPhil
Could you post a picture of what you see as being the helmet?
jimp84
MemberOvomorphMar-31-2012 2:39 PMCanadaPhil
MemberOvomorphMar-31-2012 2:42 PMI dont really have anything good. The seated jockey pic right here in the NEWS section (which is actually a still from the trailer) is the best/cleanest one I know of.
CanadaPhil
MemberOvomorphMar-31-2012 2:40 PMYes... they are HUGE in relation to us.
CanadaPhil
MemberOvomorphMar-31-2012 2:46 PMGeeez... now this topic got my mind racing on this and another light bulb went off in my head.
Is the dark veiny appearing areas on the SJ head/skull? with the darker ridge on top not sort of remniscient of the pale veiny "humanoid" withe lumpy sort of head shown at the beginning of the "waterfall dawn of man" clip?????
Oh crap... he I go again...lolz.
jimp84
MemberOvomorphMar-31-2012 2:46 PMI think I'm starting to lean more towards the idea that the thing on the examining table is the skull with no flesh on it due to decay over time. The picture on the homepage is what the skull looks like with flesh. What do you think?
BigDave
MemberDeaconMar-31-2012 2:49 PMHere is the guy who walks over to the seat after activating the Pilot Chair to rise up.
[img]http://www.mmthomas.me/Media/Default/ImageGalleries/Prometheus/man-in-jockey-room.jpg[/img]
If this is the guy who is the other image i link prior then he looks human and not like that head on the table, which again points to it being a Helmet.
[img]http://www.prometheusmovienews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/space_jockey_background_crop.jpg[/img]
Also this one here these suits look like the one thats got no head in that one image.
These are standing up here with heads on.
1) Are these Statues and why?
2) Are they actual lifeforms that are in some kind of hybernation?
3) Or are they just Space Suits used by the Blue Men.
Just as the Red Suit hanging up below is most likely a Prometheus crew Space Suit
[img]http://media.theiapolis.com/b000000/d8/hFA/iKJX/t3/wJG/noomi-rapace-as-elizabeth-shaw-in-prometheus.jpg[/img]
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craigamore
MemberOvomorphMar-31-2012 2:53 PMHere..WE...GO.....I believe it's a helmet as Ridley has, several times, stated that what we see in that chair in 'Alien' is a suit:
"...Alien. It’s fairly pure. And this one does actually raise all kinds of other questions, because if someone could, a being, could be as monstrously clever to create something like we experienced in the very first one – I always figured it’s a weapon, and I always figured that [the ship in the first Alien] was a carrier of weapons. [b]Therefore, who is that, inside that suit? That wasn’t a skeleton, that was a suit.[/b] And if you open up the suit, what do you get inside it? And why were they going, where were they going?
Now, let's compare the helmet on the table to SpaceJockey in his chair in 'Prometheus' as well as 'Alien'...
[img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwnsasSzBB1qmz9r9o1_400.png[/img]
[img]http://www.ifc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/031712-prometheus-wondercon.jpg[/img]
[img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081014170719/aliens/images/archive/2/26/20081014171305!SpaceJockey.jpg[/img]
Here's the fella in the suit...
[img]http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/aliennaire/Prometheus/blue_guy1.jpg[/img]
I hate to brake it to you fellas...it's a helmet and probably one that's been there for hundreds if not thousands of years, which would explain the missing eye glass and its present conditon...also, there the possibility of it being biomechanical which would contribute to its organic appearance.
jimp84
MemberOvomorphMar-31-2012 2:53 PMThose look more like they could be masks. The trunk like things look a lot bigger, like they are where the trunk of the space jockey actually sits inside. They also connect to the chest, maybe as part of the breathing system for the suit.
BigDave
MemberDeaconMar-31-2012 2:55 PMI guess we will only know when we see the movie.
But dont forget we need to remember that potentially the Space Jockeys do not use Materials like we do, their Materials are most likely Bio Mechanical thus organic thats why the Walls look Organic and the do on the Derelict Ships.
What in real life uses Bio Mechanical Materials for either a Suit or a Home?
Snails, crustaceans.
And if you got a Snail and it died over time when the flesh inside has gone the Shell will remain but it will not look as colourful or vibrant as it was when the Organism was alive.
The same goes for Crab Shells etc.
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CanadaPhil
MemberOvomorphMar-31-2012 2:56 PMThey still need to explain the Snuffleupugus trunk!
hahaha
CanadaPhil
MemberOvomorphMar-31-2012 3:03 PM@craigamore..
Also, my take on your last pic link (green orb "Blue Meanie") is that THAT is NOT a "real" Space Jockey at all, but something entirely different.
This is the situation (I believe) that sets off Shaw's concern about something bad about to happen... but its not a real jockey... Too small... more human head... and has EARS!!
jimp84
MemberOvomorphMar-31-2012 3:03 PMI'm still not convinced on anything, but there's a lot of great ideas here. Can't wait to find out for sure in June.
BigDave
MemberDeaconMar-31-2012 3:04 PMIf you actually watch the scene of the Jockey in the Chair over and over in slow motion.
You will see that the Chair attaches istelf to the Jockey, we would assume that after the snout will then also extend out more aswell.
As i said i think the Suits are themselves a living organism in a way, hence Bio Mechanical.
Look how Starks suit attaches to him in Iron man, i think this is how the Space Jockeys suits attach to them only their suits are not Metal but a Organic Material that becomes fused with the wearer.
This image was posted in different thread.
[img]http://dougbot.com/forum/prometheusDiscovery.jpg[/img]
Notice at B there is something on the chair, that disapears in this scene.
[img]http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k172/BristolRuss/SpaceJockey-Prometheus.jpg[/img]
Notice that object B is not there, where could it have gone?
Well ontop of the bald Blue Guys head maybe?
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jimp84
MemberOvomorphMar-31-2012 3:07 PMVery interesting....