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ukalien

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 5:34 PM
I would like to hear more talk on why the planet LV-462 looks so much different in alien compared to prometheus? Im sure its safe to say it IS the same planet from alien because of the crashed ship. Maybe the dust cloud we see in the trailer has something to do with the change in atmosphere.. would be cool to hear more
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Ross

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 5:50 PM
The planet in Prometheus cannot be LV-426! Van Lewen said in Aliens that LV-426 was an unsurveyed world at the time Ripley & Co arrived. And I for one believe him! Case closed!!

Mekja-Tek

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 5:40 PM
Company cover up, the SJs were in the middle of terraforming and after the human interruption things went south.

Preston

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 5:42 PM
Because it's not LV-426.

Not_my_intention

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 5:43 PM
My original theory is that some horrible disaster set of by the derelict caused the actual crust of the planet to get blown off, then the mantle would explode out hitting space and cooling instantly, causing the strange lave formations me see in alien in aliens, and then the old atmosphere and all the dust from the past crust get pulled back, making the new very dark atmosphere. and as much as i think this sounds awesome, and if done right would make one hell of a scene, there is one gaping plot hole with it, how is the derelict still okay?

Dropyourlinen

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 5:44 PM
See the topic, earlier, about LV-426 mutating. But don't tell Gocustard you looked at it

ukalien

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 5:45 PM
what makes you think so preston? didn't mean that in harsh way just want to hear your opinion

ukalien

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 5:47 PM
dropyourlinen could you give link to topic

Not_my_intention

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 5:50 PM
@Preston yes it most certainly is, everything matches up perfectly with lv426, and if it wasn't lv426 then there is no point in making this a prequel to alien, change the ship design and take away the space jockey for a different alien.

Dropyourlinen

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 5:53 PM
@ukalien Sorry dude I don't know how to insert links. But the topic is easily recognisable - very long title, should be on same page as current topics, or one page backwards. Onlu topic title which mentions LV-426 mutating

Dropyourlinen

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 5:54 PM
@Ross You'd seriously believe a Company suit!?! He's basically from the same corporation as Ash and Burke!

Not_my_intention

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 5:55 PM
@Ross your going to believe a guy from the company? just!!!!!!!! mjsdygcrbskjdgvykjhcj hbfa kerjfgvkhGSRVBGFjhB gjmfv nJHABZSKJGVBJHSDGBV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why?!?!?!? it is very apparent that they lie!!!! LIE!!!!!!! to cover up what happened and to get there hands on the alien!!!! and if it was an unsurveyed world then how did the company know about the ship?!?!?!?! sorry for being kind of mean, but any mention of it not being lv426 just kind of bothers me...... it should be the only fact really.

Ross

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 5:58 PM
Dropyourlinen (nice name btw) my sarcasm is clearly lost on you! Obviously a cover-up. Prob someone of Van Lewen's pay grade would not have access to the truth though!! So he prob wasn't necessarily lying but the company was lying to Ripley through him.

Ripley Clone 8

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 6:00 PM
@Ross, That was the company talking man. They were lieing. Considering that they worked for "The Company". It wouldn't make any sense to believe their bull. Plus you figure out that the Company was lieing to the Nostromo crew in ALIEN. Saying that the crews priority's were secondary to the Xenomorph and then MUTHUR saying, "Crew Expendable." The Company wants the Xenomorph for the bio-weapons division. Ripley emphasizes this many times throughout the series. Mainly in Alien 3. The Company would never let anybody interfere with their plans to subdue and capture the Xenomorph. Coporate Greed. Pretty nasty stuff.
http://i.imgur.com/vbAPQY6.gif

Dropyourlinen

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 6:02 PM
There are people here who get really angry if you even suggest Prometheus is set on LV-426. I for one believe it's got to be. However, I am willing to admit there are obstacles to this theory: -different landscape and atmosphere -'daylight' - clear daylight here in the trailer, yet in Alien, even when the sun comes up, the sky is black -steam vents I personally believe the planet underogoes some kind of cataclysmic change. I could, however, be 'sooooooo wrong'..

Galaxy Dave

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 6:03 PM
The planet in Prometheus is not LV-426. Lindelof stated in an interview that a prequel are events that lead up to the beginning of the first story. Prometheus is not this. Although Prometheus happens a few years before Alien, the story line has followed a completely different path and away from Alien. Prometheus will not end where Alien begins. We're fooled by the images of the "derelict" ship crashing on the planet, but this is not the same ship from Alien! It is the same TYPE of ship, but not THE ship from Alien. This movie will develop a whole new mythos in the Alien universe! Very fun, very exciting indeed!! Think of all the new monsters that can be introduced from Giger's mind! Ooops, I wet myself.

Pvt. Hudson

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 6:04 PM
"Van Lewen said in Aliens that LV-426 was an unsurveyed world at the time Ripley & Co arrived." Do we really think Weyland would have told anyone if they had surveyed LV-426? That colony was placed there with the intent that they would "accidentally" stumble upon the Aliens and therefore Weyland-Yutani had hosts to birth the ones they wanted. They knew what was going on there LONG before ALIENS as I'm sure the Prometheus story will validate.

Dropyourlinen

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 6:05 PM
Sorry Ross. I got you now. Sarcasm gets losts ometimes unless you can hear the person!

Dropyourlinen

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 6:06 PM
It IS exciting. Very exciting. But do you really think there will be two sghips crashing at the end of the day?

Kane77

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 6:07 PM
when it is lv-426, a possibility is that after the events of Prometheus the terraforming project just suddenly stops ( SJ are dead) and the whole planet decays.. till the Nostromo arrives..

Not_my_intention

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 6:10 PM
@Galaxy Dave then how do you explain the fact that it is orbiting the same planet as in alien? and like i said, if it isn't a true prequel to alien, then why use the same imagery like the derelict and space jockey? why not just make a whole new movie with its own universe instead of nailing it to alien? if it is a different ship and does not explain anything to the back story of alien, then i will be pissed off that they used stuff from alien without doing anything with it.

Ripley Clone 8

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 6:13 PM
The planet could of changed quite a bit by the time the Nostromo got there. I mean the Space Jockey was fossilized into the chair and its bio mechanical suit when Dallas and Lambert were observing it. The Space Jockey's could of been terraforming the planet and when Prometheus wiped out the derelict, its terraforming stopped. Thus the planet just became a big rock.
http://i.imgur.com/vbAPQY6.gif

red hood

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 6:17 PM
Just a correction -—- we are talking about lv426 from alien. If it is lv426 tho it might not have human friendly atmosphere, it probably has different seasons. Maybe prometheus is during a different season than Nostors

Dropyourlinen

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 6:18 PM
Well, if it's not LV-426, what I really want to know is, how does the ship on LV-426 get there? Does it lift off from one of the other 4 temples? Are there two crashed derelicts in the fullness of time?

Sigismundo

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 6:18 PM
Q: Does it rule out doing an actual Alien prequel? DL: No, I don’t think it does. I think that there might actually be people out there who watch Prometheus and say, “This is an Alien prequel” but it’s a prequel in sort of a different sense than I’m used to. Isn’t it more interesting to think of a movie that takes place in the Alien universe, there are some familiar things that you will see along the way but if there were a sequel to Prometheus, it would not be Alien. That to me had to be the goal. God willing, if Prometheus is successful, and there is a sequel, it won’t be Alien because the end of this movie, if this movie is A to Z, Z is not there’s a bunch of eggs laying on the floor of LV-426. Z in this movie is entirely different although people will watch this movie and say, “I feel like I have a different contextual framework now for the original Alien, I’m going to watch it again. I feel like I know a little bit more than I knew before.” http://www.screenjunkies.com/movies/movie-news/comic-con-2011-exclusive-damon-lindelof-talks-prometheus-makes-peace-with-lost-fans/

Dropyourlinen

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 6:23 PM
I'd be tempted to say 'well, hell, maybe Prometheus will be completely unrelated to Alien, and good on Ridley for doing something completely new'. But the key factor for me is that it's the same system. Ringed planet 'n' all. LV-426 or not LV-426??!!?? AArrgghhh!

takka_takka_takka

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 6:25 PM
It's not LV-426. How do I know this? Because the guy who wrote the script said so.

LV426JGFPM

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 6:28 PM
Ok, now listen UP!! I want you people to put down the bongs and stop smoking the sticky icky. Those canisters they find in Prometheus, yes could very well be the "first" generation face hugger container. You also have to remember Kane, Lambert and Dallas did NOT do a full on exploration of the derelict. They saw the space jockey, then Kane notices an opening in the platform. Kane sees an area filled with thousands of eggs. Now who is to say the Alien that busted through the space Jockey didn't become a queen in order to prolong the species and laid those eggs in their natural lathery sacks? It is just amazing how some people on these forums are just horrified at the possibility that the movie takes place on LV-426 and that ship is in fact the Derelict from Alien. I am going to enjoy the moment when all this comes true, so I can come back here and say I TOLD YOU SO!! But there is always the off chance, I will get the same treatment. In either event this movie will still be amazing and may even turn out better than what we expected. I just love the dialog we are all having. It is all in good fun.

Dropyourlinen

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 6:29 PM
Ah, takka_takka_takka! I've missed you - the dry voice of reason

Sigismundo

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 6:30 PM
[quote][i]But the key factor for me is that it's the same system. Ringed planet 'n' all.[/i][/quote] In an infinite universe the possibility of similar looking planets...not unlikely. Unless Scott or Lindelof mentioned somewhere it is the same star system, which I haven't heard or read.

Sigismundo

MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 6:32 PM
[quote][i]become a queen in order to prolong the species and laid those eggs in their natural lathery sacks?[/i][/quote] The queen was an invention by Cameron, not Scott.
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