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Rick
MemberXenomorphMar-18-2012 8:55 PMHey Guys and Gals,
I think this screenshot at 1:37-38 kind of says it all. Anyone else notice the demon head at the top and how the arms of the xeno look really humanish?
[img]http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z137/Caillera_Mondaer/xenoonthewall.jpg[/img]
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ReeceMacoy
MemberOvomorphMar-18-2012 9:00 PMits much thinner too, but you can make out the legs, arms also has a pretty thin stomach, but the head looks pretty big. but i wonder if this in fact an alien or statue like the human head, obviously im hoping its a real xeno. also i remember what Ridley said about us seeing a progenitor (ancestor) of the alien species. could this be what he was talking about??? heres to hoping.
latinhypercube
MemberOvomorphMar-18-2012 9:01 PMIts obviously a Xeno growing, in response to the human prey (probably design to kill humans). Totally awesome shot.
Rick
MemberXenomorphMar-18-2012 9:09 PMI don't know where this is at in the movie. But I recall Noomi saying something about the wall changing in the trailer it could be this forming from the wall. I knew there would be something with nanotech which I think is behind the changes.
Rick
MemberXenomorphMar-18-2012 9:16 PMI agree with you. I wonder if humans were turned into xeno's through jockeytech.
Fan
MemberOvomorphMar-18-2012 9:25 PMI was thinking more on the lines of maybe the sj's have built a bio weapon that takes on traits of the infected species with the specific and designed intention that the product becomes the perfect adversary....if that run on sentence makes any sense. So the xeno is not new, but the xeno that we know of, birthed by a human would be new.
ALL generalizations are WRONG!
Rick
MemberXenomorphMar-18-2012 9:29 PMThat actually makes a lot of sense when you take into account that scuttled they Prometheus to keep the derelict from taking off. Fassbender said it was on its way to Earth to destroy everything. That would also be a good way to keep young civilizations from expanding. Kill them off and you have more space for yourself.
Cypher
Co-AdminMemberOvomorphMar-18-2012 9:30 PMWhat about at the start with the guy looking at his hand with the black stuff moving on his head and arm?
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Rick
MemberXenomorphMar-18-2012 9:32 PMBio, I think you are right as well. I don't put it past Ridley to have a dual running theme here. That would be the perfect way to kick off a new franchise. We infect them, they infect us, and the jockeys won't have that going on so they leave to take out Earth.
Fan
MemberOvomorphMar-18-2012 9:36 PMI buy it...would this infection have anything to do with the green gel?..yes? The picture on the wall seems to show a xeno of some sort and that is an image from long before we get there, wouldn't you think? So the sjs have to know what the xeno is, right? They must know what their "stuff" does to a species.
ALL generalizations are WRONG!
Mekja-Tek
MemberOvomorphMar-18-2012 9:40 PMSimply put the dark matter is the current state of the bio-weapon. A human adversary will produce a humanoid xeno, a predator gives you a pred-alien, etc, etc. I guess the egg/facehugger is the final product. The egg being the stasis chamber for the refined bio-weapon.
Rick
MemberXenomorphMar-18-2012 9:41 PMNrl,
I don't think the green gel is anything but a suspension, I could be wrong though. I think its whats in the containers that's in the green gel that is inside the urns. This falls back to the novelization in Alien.
Cypher,
I think its blue, not black. I think that's how the blue guy is made, he's actually changed.
SeeYouHicks
MemberOvomorphMar-18-2012 9:43 PMLol I thought I was the first person to see this! lol
I showed my sister and she was like, "how can they deny that this is a prequel?"
On another note, I think I spotted a face hugger at 2:04...
(Hope a thread hasn't been started about this one, too) :-P
Fan
MemberOvomorphMar-18-2012 9:50 PM@ Rick. I'm with ya on the green vs blue vs black thing. I can totally see how the green stuff just holds the product. I guess the life cycle is as yet slightly confusing. Ring that we haven't really seen it happen yet, but it stands to reason that the truth may lie in the middle. Biomechanic mentions the nanotechnology aspect, which may very well be the beginning of the process. Where mekja states that the egg is simply the end of the process, so that the weapon can lay in wait...
ALL generalizations are WRONG!
ReeceMacoy
MemberOvomorphMar-18-2012 9:53 PMHicks
i think it was the alien chestburster after being removed
Nrl
im not sure the alien on the wall is a scene long before we get there, i think its a statue maybe but you see a light being shined on it much like the flashlights being shined on the big human head
the walls are alive
MemberOvomorphMar-18-2012 9:56 PMI think the ship/temple can construct an alien much like the way a human body produces species specific antibodies in response to foreign infection, all the raw material already pulses through the veins of the architecture, so it could build anything it had a dna schematic of, the human body identifies pathogens with its immune system perhaps a face hugger is like a exploratory tool that has gone feral
Fan
MemberOvomorphMar-18-2012 9:57 PM@reece. No, I meant that it was probably on the wall long before they got there. I think your right, shaws shinining a light right on it and doesn't she ask the ship if they are seeing it?
ALL generalizations are WRONG!
Rick
MemberXenomorphMar-18-2012 9:57 PMI think the nanotech starts all the changes and gets things going. I mean you can see it go into the guys eye looks like silver mercury that moves on its own. It makes the changes and then from their I think its biological trying to imitate mechanical from there and that's how the facehugger comes in. It would be like Ridley to flip the tables on us since everything is always "mechanical trying to imitate biological ie androids". But that's just my theory.
Rick
MemberXenomorphMar-18-2012 10:03 PMAlso Here this should wet your appetite for the xeno progenitor.
[img]http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z137/Caillera_Mondaer/xenoprogenitor.png[/img]
ReeceMacoy
MemberOvomorphMar-18-2012 10:11 PMNRL
she says something like "changing overhead", theres 2 things on the ceiling in separate scenes, the alien figure and the other is the ceiling pieces moving, but they could be the same scene though.
Rick
MemberXenomorphMar-18-2012 10:28 PMI think its totally off the wall to see it. It looks like a statute though but who knows I think it is dark up on the ceiling it looks like she is shining it up and to the side of the head.
Shilliam Watner
MemberOvomorphMar-18-2012 10:38 PMOk, I want y'all to bear with me for a minute and don't laugh. I saw on another website a big clear picture of the pic above. I looked and recognized something different. It's a mask. Where is what suppose to be the Xenos head is actually a nose. Look to the left and right of the Xenos head/nose. You see eyes with eye lids. It looks like ears behind the eyes. Then look right below the nose/Xenos head and rib cage. I see what looks like a woman wearing a veil and the body has what looks like exposed cleavage. It also looks like a cape around her in the form of the Xenos legs. The Xenos legs look like a shroud around her. It's like a statue. Is anyone seeing this and no, I haven't been drinking and I wouldn't doubt Giger designed this piece.
Zoom in and check for yourself.
Shilliam Watner
Rick
MemberXenomorphMar-19-2012 5:57 AMThat is not a mask or anything that small. Go watch the trailer from 1:36:45-1:38:15 you see a light on the cave wall scan passed it. I screen captured it at about 1:37:30 Here is the direct link to the picture you'll see the wall this is much larger (1023x575) than what you posted on your topic about it being a mask.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z137/Caillera_Mondaer/xenoonthewall.jpg
Audiodamaged
MemberOvomorphMar-20-2012 3:43 AMI'm wondering after reading these posts, and you'll have to bare with me. Something along the lines of the SJ had used technology to advance humans, way back when. And that that technology was used in creating Xenos. And there's some kind of . . . . . . Argh!
I'm sure you get me. Some kind of shared genetic code between Xeno and Humans. A little stir of the test tube kind of thing.
Don't shoot me down, its just a thought ;-)
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