THE MURAL ROOM

The main problem I see, with producing all these confusing theories, is that info that is not deemed canon can be messing with our minds, to a point where we're not staying on target with the basics and what we know just from the movies themselves ... all the deleted scenes were deleted for a reason ... to set and 'maybe' change the whole main story line and then more so after they finished the movie and produced the final cut ... i.e. make it canon ... I don't trust any info in those deleted scenes, for this reason, as they could led to red herrings ... good info, I grant you but I wouldn't take it as trusted info ... they should all be left on the floor of the cutting room ... but that's just me ...

As for the cup of tea at the beginning of Prometheus ... with that 'stuff' now in the water ... if it 'is' goo or Xeno based, then are all the organisms, fish and whatever else is in there not turned into alien type species? ... I don't think it was goo ... just another prescription from Boots (chemist) that the Engineers created for themselves, to produce whatever they were trying to achieve ... life ... so would that then produce the mammals that came out of the water and turned into man? ... or something else? ...

Here's one for you ... what if that's not Earth? ... just another experiment but this one goes wrong ... could that be the planet Covenant arrives at and lands on, after all these years later? ... it's had time to evolve ... Scott doesn’t claim it’s necessarily Earth (in his BluRay commentary) he seems pissed that people assumed it was definitely Earth ... that just came out in the moment ... no books or deleted scenes ... out side the box that one ... lol ...

What if... Alien was remade?

I agree with the majority above, in saying no to remakes ... reboots on the other hand are like a refresher for people who were'nt around when the originals came out ... so it's like catch up for those people ... and yes it's a money making enterprise ... I don't mind the reboots so much but a remake? ... hmmm ... not Alien, that's for sure ... doesn't need it, imho nor does others for that matter ...

I'm with Lone regarding the classics though ... you listed my favs also ... I actually love those oldies because of the atmosphere they produce, while watching them ... the orignal 'Thing from Another World' is gold ... and 'Forbidden Planet' my all time fav ...

I'm still building the fence regarding the reboot/remake topic ...

Hammerpede artwork in the background of the hand construction?

Sorry Enoch I cannot see the 'll' being a 'B' ... if it's supposed to be a B then its a really bad one ... I can't see why they couldn't have made it a bit more obvious ... if that was the case ... ;) ... and in what language is that supposed to be, if it is 1-Noble? ...

Hammerpede artwork in the background of the hand construction?

Yeah, I saw elsewhere, the other day, that someone pointed out that could be a Hammerpede image in the background ... therefore if it is the red sculpture may well be of that Hammerpede itself then ... or something else entirely ...

@ Enoch ... definitely no B in the carved word on the modellers board ...

@Something Real ... I see what you mean ... no M though and the 'll' dosen't have a slant connection to create an N ... that would've been great if it did, NUMI (Noomi)... which would've given a nice clue to her being turned into an alien :) ...

Resized carving image:

llun-1?

Or at 180 degeress rotation:

1-noll?

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Yep, I remember O'Bannon saying he pinched bits from Vampires on the Alien Quadrilogy DVD extras ... but the more you look at it, the more it fits ... love the old classics, have most on BluRay now ...

Found this from last year ...

Alien vs Planet of the Vampires
https://vimeo.com/131860842

Are Engineers extinct?

With Dave a bit on this ... but ...

I'd like to see the elders being the top dog, overlords (hate using the word God) ... and the engineers the slaves (experiment fodder) ..

I'd also like to think that, the huge pebble ship is still active (look how old the elders are) ... maybe it's on paradise or somewhere close (to their home) ... beings with that technology and advancement would not just die off ... engineers yes, maybe but not the elders ... and where all the women at? ... probably on that ship (or the main home world, not Paradise) ... the engineers could be birthed by the elders using advanced tech (matrix style) ...

And yes to seeing more holographic recordings for flashback & continuity ... which could've been transmitted back to main base ... maybe David finds more info that way as he knows how to work it now ...

But also, if the Prometheus exhibition did not meet the engineers, things would still go to plan (infection, etc) with the same results but only if a female engineer engaged with a goo infected engineer, because their DNA matches ours, Human ... so a similar outcome would result ... it's just that the crew fu*ked it all up by interferring and letting it all loose ... probably why it was taken away from the main homeworld to the desolate planet in the first place, to protect their species? ...

Didn't see any Engineers from Alien to Aliens, to Alien 3 and Alien R could be because they didn't think a prequel would be made ... or they didn't know how to write it in?

Paradise, I don't think, is the main homeworld ... it could be the testing ground for the experiements/construction of the goo ... and by the looks of it, that went Pete Tong (wrong) too ... David's intervention? ... don't know but I don't think he would survive that outbreak, seen in the set photos ... he may have found out why it went wrong though ...

@Monster Zero ... well there were 5 silos on the planet, so maybe 5 ships as well? ... may have some other engineers in hypersleep ... I peronally would've dumped them ... just to be sure ...

The Leviathan ( help from Blomkamp ?)

Saw this last year ... here's the 'Proof of Concept' teaser ...

The Leviathan - Teaser:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-45NTlgp-o

Will we see more murals in Alien Covenant?

@Mizikame & TD ... yes sorry, I have ammened my above comment ... the Trilobite ... others on here have refferred to it as Mr T ...

@Chris ... I get what you're saying ... and yes if they were not disturbed, what would they look like? ... we do know though that the mural that 'changed' was an image of an egg with alien hands around it (Prometheus - The Art of the Film) ...

The Mural That Changed:
https://i.imgur.com/QL5eXMm.jpg

@Dave ... good explanation regarding the goo and it's destructive use ... but ... that still doesn't explain where or what happened to the few that actually made it through the door, before it closed ... where are they? ... they should be in the room, along with the head surely? ... i.e. ALL preserved? ... I counted 7 (maybe more?) engineers running down the holographic tunnel footage ... so that (at least) means there should be 6 that made it into the ampule room ... the other 10+ at the other door obviously didn't make it (wherever they were headed for) ... I personally don't see any evidence of other doors leading to the ampule room ...

Will we see more murals in Alien Covenant?

@ MZ ... agreed ... that would make sense to blow the place to hell if she 'was' that concerned ...

I also don't think it would've been a religous (or Holy ground) thing ... I personally don't think that organism/creature would give a sh!t :) ...

@BRG ... yeah ... where did they go? ... they would've been preserved just like the head ...

Re: The other door (Millburn & Fifield found) ... where there were 10+ other Engineers piled up, why didn't the crew get 'that' door re-opened (by David)? ... or did that door lead to the Orrery room? ... hence 4 made it to the chambers, but 3 still got blasted? ... lack of priorities and sillyness didn't really help that expidition ...

@ TD ... yes I reckon they were running from their own creation ... possible another Mr T (Trilobite)? ... or another deacon, which would make sense if one was infected previously by Mr T (back when the hologram was recorded)?, as we do know the outcome of that process :) ... but we would've expected some evidence of something, surely? ...

Fantastic movie but all that production value and so many unanswered questions ... more so if we won't be re-visiting LV-233 ...

Will we see more murals in Alien Covenant?

@BRG ... agreed ... I hope they do explain a bit more about this and that ...

Will we see more murals in Alien Covenant?

I would've loved them to have (wish they had) explored the other 4 silos/temples in Prometheus, where I reckon different species were and hence different murals ... so unless there are more silos (or similar) in AC I don't think we will ... that's my guess ...

Will Alien: Covenant introduce Xenomorph Egg Morphing?

Going back to my theory of the Butterfly life-cycle ...

What if the Alien's acidic blood is the actual Enzyme (molecular acid) that is (maybe) used for the (egg) morphing process? ... the corrosive action of the blood is probably not due to a single acid but a complex of enzymes ... it just so happens to be a great defence mechanism as well ...

Will Alien: Covenant introduce Xenomorph Egg Morphing?

@Blade ... that would be a good assumption ... the chemistry involved would seem very complex ...

Will Alien: Covenant introduce Xenomorph Egg Morphing?

I can see where they get their ideas from ...

Very similar (although without Alien goo) happens on Earth ... the life-cycle of butterflies ... eggs hatch ... the caterpillar turns into a chrysalis within a few days ... the caterpillar then digests itself, starts to break down inside (enzymes turn the caterpillar into a 'soup' like substance) ... some of the 'imaginal discs' are left behind, which survive the digestive process ... there’s a pair for the antennae, a pair for the eyes, one for each leg and wing, and so on ...

Sorry, my nature head was on at this point ... I like to breed moths & butterflies, now and again and photograph the process ... it's fantastic ...

Right back on track ...

Alien: Covenant Trailer Release Date Potentially Decoded!

I'm hoping there's going to be as much build up with teasers, images & media files, like there was with Prometheus ... damn did we take that film apart back in 2012 ... great times ...

New pic from set on alien covenant

@Chris ... that looks like a possible green screen shot but definitely different to the main monitor ... I know (high end) directors mix GS/VFX shots direct into the scenes real-time previews, hence my reply ... I'm wondering if the corridor is CGI, because the first 2 rectangle lights are a bit too sharp, compared to the structure surrounding them, which is slightly blurry (out of focus) as you would expect ... this is more evident on the HD image ...

New pic from set on alien covenant

Yes to looks like tears and yes deffo a chair ... great shot (image) that ... powerful ... and the Ripley vibe I think is all part and parcel of how the women will change (over time) til we get to Ripley herself, when we finally get to 'Alien' ... i.e, the old school look and feel is being developed ... I'm loving this ...

I've got the new latest full hi-res version of the crop, so not worth posting that as well ...

New pic from set on alien covenant

I reckon it's still in space, because if it's landed you'd wanna get the hell out! ... wouldn't you? ...

The Derelict, Juggernaut and Elder Noobernaut-Pebble Ship: Built or Grown?

I always thought the derelict ship must be something organic, with the bone structures and all ... but more so of having the vaginal (vulva) shaped openings (entrances?) that were shown in photos back then ... ok my mind is way off the chart ... but it is Giger :) ...

Are you guys/Girls asleep?..go read this!

I suppose you have to take into account the reviewers who are NON SciFi lovers ... so there's a percentage lost there ... and because of that you lose vital points ... you probably got a few who haven't seen ALIEN either :/ ... so there's another knock ... it goes on ...

New featurette

OMFG ... I have just done something very naughty in my boxer shorts ... :) ... SOD those latest French reviews ... this clip has just secured it for me ... I'm there for the visuals ... LOOK AT THAT!!! ... that is VisualSex ... wicked ... Come on You Son of a bi................... hurry up and get here FFS ... Oh and thanks Ruth ;) ...

Are you guys/Girls asleep?..go read this!

Simple innit ... Blokes LIKED IT ... Birds DIDN'T ... I'll get me coat ... ;) ...

Prometheus Magazine Articles - Grab them here ...

[b]PROMETHEUS MAGAZINE ARTICLE - 024[/b] [b]024: THE GUARDIAN - THE ORIGIN OF THE SPECIES - MAY 2012 [English][/b] [img]http://oi47.tinypic.com/efnccn.jpg[/img] [url=http://www.mediafire.com/?sxczs2jfh5kjvcy]PDF Format[/url] [url=http://www.mediafire.com/?i6t51qw7uwn8q55]JPGS in a ZIP File[/url]

The Guardian: Making of a New Myth

I almost forgot ... here is the original PDF of the Guardian Review (26th May) ... I will add this to my [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/4052]Article Thread[/url] soon ... ;) ... [b]The Guardian - The Origin of the Species [May 2012] [English][/b] [img]http://oi47.tinypic.com/efnccn.jpg[/img] [url=http://www.mediafire.com/?sxczs2jfh5kjvcy]PDF Format[/url] [url=http://www.mediafire.com/?i6t51qw7uwn8q55]JPGS in a ZIP File[/url]

Charlize Theron Fanclub

I Say ... [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV0lKD3KPsc]DING DONG[/url]

Charlize Theron Fanclub

Here is great one of Charlize ... Damn!!! ... Bang upto date image from the [b]Fotogramas [Feb 2012] [Spanish][/b] magazine ... [url=http://oi46.tinypic.com/r0pp2h.jpg][img]http://oi46.tinypic.com/r0pp2h.jpg[/img][/url] And Another ... from the same Mag ... ;) ... [url=http://oi45.tinypic.com/2rctule.jpg][img]http://oi45.tinypic.com/2rctule.jpg[/img][/url] OH ... and this one too ... same Mag again ... that's the lot ... ;) ... [url=http://oi48.tinypic.com/nl7nsy.jpg][img]http://oi48.tinypic.com/nl7nsy.jpg[/img][/url]

2 Davids

@JunktownLibrary ... Yeah I see that image but thats a Promo shot ... not an actual screenshot ...

translated magazine "L'Écran Fantastique"

@iapetus ... Haha ... I'm just weirder than most ;) ... There has been a heck of a lot you new guys have missed (I have too) ... what I have seen and spoken about since I arrived in March has been HUGE ... you only have to miss a day or two and you're out of the loop ... It is a damn shame but near impossible to find the cream of the crop posts made by the others as well ...

H.R. Giger respect thread

Totally agree with all that's said here ... also even if he had little input on Prometheus he's still valid big time as the initial CREATOR of the BEST Alien (imho) EVER ... :) ...

2 Davids

That was the first thing I thought too when I saw that ... then I thought maybe its the yellow internal helmet light playing tricks on me ... but I must admit it DOES look like David ... But then to rule our Holloway ... DO we see him in THAT room in any of the trailers? ... I've gone completely blank due to Trailer Overload :/ ... That's no shaven head btw ;) ...

Remembering Stan Winston

Kane ... The Big C is a b'stard for sure mate ... and yeah it's sucks bigtime ... ;) ... @ncc1701 ... You too buddy ;) ...

translated magazine "L'Écran Fantastique"

[quote]- the 'Space Jockey' head/helmet was chopped by the door of an airlock and preserved in a environment that prevented these to decay[/quote] [b]Doorway Comparisons:[/b](Posted April 15th) [url=http://oi43.tinypic.com/2s1nqeh.jpg][img]http://oi43.tinypic.com/2s1nqeh.jpg[/img][/url] Haha ... Sorry but I'm gonna have my moment here ... you non believers lol ... mind you it was a weird theory I'll give you that ... ;) ... [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/3452&page=2]Rings of Prometheus?[/url] ...

janek and ravel

In one of the latest trailers (Prometheus Landing) ... I reckon he's actually sitting BEHIND those two guys at the front (abordoli's image) ... he gets up and walks past them and then to the main console in the trailer ;) ...

Remembering Stan Winston

Too true ... what a brilliant man ... My father ... also a brilliant man ;) ... died in February 2008, roughly the same time as Roy Schneider (JAWS) ... all THREE of them had the same thing ... Multiple Myeloma ... cancer of the blood ...

translated magazine "L'Écran Fantastique"

Excellent iapetus ... thank you ... I shall add that to the [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/4052]ARTICLE THREAD[/url] ... ;) ...

Another Huge spoiler Pic !!!

I totally missed this thread ... wicked 'Shoppin' (tm (c) Gem lol) Juxtapose ... quality :) ... @db ... I thought that was Zsa Zsa Gabor? ...

Prometheus Call Sheet on EBAY

I thought that CALL SHEET was supposed to be fake? ...

Is this the real model for the Xeno-Cobra

[url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/4178]Weyland Logo & The Snake Hugger[/url] [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/4116]The Cobra's Head Flared Open Is The Same Shape As The Weyland Corporation Logo[/url] No worries Jim ... ;) ...

Is this the real model for the Xeno-Cobra

I think we've been here with this one a few weeks back ... :/ ... AND with the 'it looks like the Weyland logo' discussion ... ;) ... [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/4728]"Cobra hugger" sculpture[/url]

spoiler screening,new image

This IS interesting ... came across this a few minutes ago ... I'm posting a link as opposed to the image ;) ... [url=http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4i69to7U41rnm594o1_500.jpg][b]That new image looks like it could be from the Alien Life Cycle:[/b][/url]

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[quote]but i hope Quato makes a truimphant return[/quote] I wouldn't have thought so ... it's not set on Mars this time ... so no genetically deformed (Mars like creatures) in this one I think ... not even '3 Titties' will make an appearnace :( ...

spoiler screening,new image

DAMN!!! ... nice one ... I may have to eat my words now ... oh this was a Spanish screening then? ... not the French one? ... :/ ... David wakes him? ... no wonder he's Pi$$ed ... "Hello mate ... sorry to wake you ... but ... we're here" ... "We've finally arrived" ... :) ...

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So what are you sayin'? ... David is WEYLAND in disguise? ... hence why we see the suit in the Hologram room? ... :o ... :/ ... Ok kidding ... but I thought that was better than, '2 weeks' ... ;) ...

Blue bald man not SJ

@ADH0983 ... With all due respect I think you 'shouted' a bit too much there @Gigerland ... I do agree with what you said except for the personal attack ;) ... You ALL must remember that some of the guys have been here a whole year or more and have heard repeats MORE than anyone else ... but they still help out with friendly advice ... Yes it does get annoying sometimes, due to getting new people everyday they WILL post similar posts ... that's how we think ... yes there is a SEARCH feature now but that's all it takes, is to point them in the right direction ... it will get far worse when the movie is released so please be prepared for an influx of a lot more newer folk, into the forum, eager to share their joys, as you all did when you first arrived here ... ;) ... I think Gigerland has been reading this thread and probably already knows he may of missed something as well as a few threads he could of read ... we all do that ... so please, ANYONE who thinks they're gonna get irritated by repeat threads please do NOT respond harshly ... only repsond to help out ... the STAFF will take over and tidy up the mess ... like we always do ;) ... Thanks and please carry on posting ... we're all supossed to be friends in here ... this is NOT your typical movie forum btw ... it's a GROWN UP one ;) ... Ezz now ;) ...

Ascpet ratio?

Well Prometheus is being shot in 2.35:1 cinemascope, and IMAX films need to be cropped to 1.85:1 ... So for IMAX you get a bigger picture and therefore, I would've thought, you would NOT get the WHOLE picture, being as it's getting cropped ... :/ ... I'm not 100% on this btw ... just guessing ...

Ascpet ratio?

[b]Technical specifications : Prometheus (2012)[/b] The film was shot entirely using 3D cameras ... [b]Camera[/b] 3Ality Technica Atom 3D Rig Red Epic, Zeiss Ultra Prime and Angenieux Optimo Lenses [b]Laboratory[/b] Company 3 (digital intermediate) Fluent Image, London, UK [b]Film negative format (mm/video inches)[/b] Redcode RAW [b]Cinematographic process[/b] Digital Intermediate (master format) Redcode RAW (5K) (dual-strip 3-D) (source format) [b]Printed film format[/b] 35 mm (anamorphic) 35 mm D-Cinema (also 3-D version) D-Cinema [b]Aspect ratio[/b] 2.35 : 1 ---------------------------------------------------- Some extra Information: [b]IMAX SPECS:[/b] [b]Some IMAX Info:[/b] IMAX 70mm equates to theoretically 16k Digital resolution ... so RED Cameras @5k seems pretty far off ... some major DMR upscaling and cropping is done so it fits the IMAX screen ... Current digital IMAX projectors have a tallest ratio of 1.78:1 D-IMAX ratio = 1.44:1 Some theatres have ratios of 1.85:1, with no masking. So anything that isn't in flat gets letterboxed The native AR of digital iMax is the same as for all other DCI projectors - 1.89:1, that is, basically, a Flat AR. An ratio of 4:3 is the more common aspect ratio for 15/70 IMAX films --------------------------------------------------- [b]Found this from Prometheus Cinematographer: Dariusz Wolski:[/b] Dariusz Wolski had this to say about the Epic camera: In my opinion, the new Red Epic camera is about to revolutionize all spectrums of the film industry. I am going to use Epics in my new project directed by Ridley Scott. I am amazed with the quality of the image and the fact that you can shoot 5k at 120fps without compromising resolution, and most of all the size of the camera. Combined with the Element Technica Atom 3d rig, we will be able to shoot a 3d movie with the flexibility of a conventional cinema camera. I don’t see anything that comes close to it at the moment. I can’t even imagine the potential Epic will have on the big blockbuster industry as well as independent cinema. [b]Check this rig out - ATOM 3D Epic Rig:[/b] What I would do to own this ... damn how things have changed eh? ... GO DIGITAL!!! :) ... [url=http://camerarentalz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/atom-3d-rig-epic.jpg][img]http://camerarentalz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/atom-3d-rig-epic.jpg[/img][/url]

ASHES TO ASHES

Talking of 'Ashes to Ashes' ... I drew this up yesterday for a laugh :/ ... A combination of 'Ashes to Ashes' and 'The Football Factory' ... it just entered my head ... :/ ... Non UK visitors may not get this ;) ... [url=http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4fl82pdN71rv6kedo1_r1_1280.jpg][img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4fl82pdN71rv6kedo1_r1_1280.jpg[/img][/url]

French promo fuels fire for the £67 expenses screening

To be fair Jono ... we could all come to that conclusion now with the latest trailers/TV Spots as one of them does show the Merc, Ford and possibly Shaw are all together in the hologram room with an SJ ... I'm still skeptical about these screenings that's all ;) ... if they're bang on the money then I won't have a problem with that ... by that time I'll be able to tell you all about MY screening when i see it next week :) ...

Post your favourite trailer screenshots

That is a CRACKIN' ARSE! ... (pardon the pun though ... think about it) ... ;) ... Can't wait for those to go on sale for 'birds' next Fancy Dress outing ... if we ever make out ... lol ...

Ridley Scott Interview

That FRENCH headline translated via Babel Fish ... Ridley Scott vous presente son dernier film Prometheus = Ridley Scott presents his last Prometheus film to you Do hope Babel Fish is not working right ... :/ ... lol ...