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Jul-19-2012 11:49 PM
Seeing both ships gave me a sense that the Engineers ship was cruder, almost homemade in a sense compared to the saucer which gave me thoughts about the relationship between the Engineers and the Elders, maybe changing from the time of the Earth-seeding to the time of the Prometheus visit.
I am of a mind that the Elders ship has no place or purpose with the Engineers base and I'm not even sure it belongs to the Elders..it may have simply been a conveyance for them to use..I'm not convinced at all that the Elders/Engineers are the highest order of intelligence and purpose...I suspect something else is higher
Jul-17-2012 11:15 PM
You know, of course, we're all looking forward to the Blu Ray..and we're gonna get it, and play it..and play it again and again....and we're still gonna have to wait for Prom2 because the Blu Ray for Prom 1 isn't gonna have all the answers, just SOME..hahaha...we are addicted, oh yeahhhh.
I'm getting settled into taking the longview, the wait..it seems to me that Ridley's story is, for better or worse, following a business model that extends the story over a period of time for the audience...it actually is a new thing for Ridley, perhaps he's wanted to do a series, but never had the chance, I dont know, just guessing..but the film is near 300 mil and thats a lot of reasons to keep going with the story....Fox was damn brave from a business point of view to roll the dice on something brand new, gotta give em that.
Jul-17-2012 10:59 PM
deftones...I could never take anything wrong on the forum, no worries, it's all good..we're here to have fun and I do...kinda wondering what made that come into your mind though, it's been a while...you must be thinking of EVERYTHING lol..ah well...smiles
Jul-17-2012 10:45 PM
Like I said...wasnt being or trying to be a jerk about it...but as soon as the film came out..the Wiki got 'cleansed'...of the film work in Alicante, both in the water complex and on the nearby beach where a 'ship' of some sort was built....somewhere is a lot of ocean footage being held onto....I'm thinking the Engineers origin is aquatic in some way....completely out of nowhere that we would never expect it....Prom 2 is gonna rattle even more than Prom1 I suspect...if there were people who deserted the film we have seen for what it was, I wager they'll be back jumping on the bandwagon
Jul-17-2012 10:35 PM
And...I wasnt trying to tease anybody with it, not at all..it was just something I found and was pretty surprised about...and there was another member, a long time member who shared their curiosity about it...and this was months ago when it first came up
Jul-17-2012 10:36 PM
Large scale water scenes that were filmed in Spain...3 months worth of work...and they are nowhere to be seen in the film....at least, not this part of the story
Jul-13-2012 8:56 PM
I'm here, and i haven't, no...I'm pretty much getting blasted by the overload of it all, plus I'm in the company of a group, but I will get around to it eventually
Jul-13-2012 8:54 PM
I thought vermouth was dry, but this is ridiculous...smiles
Jul-10-2012 9:40 PM
Yes...I came to discover the film late and got the Directors Cut..wish I'd seen it in the theater
Jul-10-2012 9:35 PM
haha...hey, you know I went and watched DD again after your post? I looked for it in the hotel guide and there it was...and when I get home I think I'll check it out again...that and Southland Tales
Jul-10-2012 8:36 PM
Mel, at this point in the 2 Sci Fi films Ridley Scott has done in outer space, it is not exactly known where the Space Jockey in "Alien" came from...lots of theories and ideas, but still unclear.
Jul-10-2012 8:30 PM
too late..but you already knew that.
Jul-10-2012 8:25 PM
Thanks Sparty...I love that guy, he just had..."it", whatever that is.
"Is that a real minute or an Eli minute?"
Happy Trails, Peter
Jul-10-2012 12:03 AM
Interesting and I never knew it existed, I could fiddle with this for hours, playing with it now..
Jul-09-2012 7:51 PM
Sparty....epic, masterful post..when I saw this film for the first time, it totally twisted my mind inside out...I couldnt figure out how Kelly did the ending of the film. I wasnt confused, I just couldnt get how he did it, how he made it come together..and I sat there and watched it! A memorable experience, to be sure....all I could say at the end was 'How (Kelly) did he do that!'
My kid was with me the first time I saw it at home, he was trippin on his old man, he knew what was coming in the film..hahaha
On my top ten Sci Fi list
Jul-08-2012 1:39 PM
allinamberclad for the win..
Faith...an intangible concept outside David's understanding, although he understands it's influence through Shaw
Jul-08-2012 1:34 PM
Unknown...and we don't get but a glimpse of them, so that the audience can't know or recognize any symbols....I think thats an invented language on there.
Jul-08-2012 1:26 PM
Meaning....given enough time I can understand them, but will I tell you?
You may not be around when I do get around to deciphering them
Jul-09-2012 8:04 PM
Pitch Black is another film my kid turned me on to..I could see the pride in him at showing me something he knew I would love...right up my alley, pure elements of the 1950's sci fi films brought up to date..couldnt have been done better
Sorry to hijack your thread Sparty
Jul-08-2012 10:53 AM
Ash's capabilities may have been a result of going 'too far' with David's design....limit the ability, more control..otherwise you end up with something too smart for you to direct.
Jul-07-2012 12:32 AM
Ridley is not the guy some people have been lulled into thinking he is...an old English director whos best ideas about science fiction began with Alien and ended with Blade Runner....NO.no no no no NOOOOOOOOO!
This guy is sharp as a razor blade and everything we see and hear is for a reason. People who have given up on this, I'm sorry to say, missed the boat. I was ready for this, not because i have a giant brain but because Ridley himself said it in his codified way of speaking...before the film came out.
Parrot....thanks for the refresher...seen it 4 times and missed 3 of your catches
Jul-06-2012 11:39 PM
The croissant shape has always reminded me of a giant bacteria or virus, as seen under a microscope, non symmetrical in configuration.
Jul-06-2012 2:12 PM
Me? Haha...I can't even play Asteroids...not a gamer..but I'll ask my kid, he plays
Jul-06-2012 1:17 AM
Hey Gareth, yeah I'll be there and I'm jazzed to get a chance to see Syd...a massive longtime fan of his, missed him many other times...
Jul-06-2012 12:56 AM
I don't think that the Space Jockey in Alien created the Engineers, his kind appears to me to different than the Engineers who move about freely as we do...The Space Jockey seems purpose-designed for the derelict, for operating his ship and nothing else...I dont accept what anyone says, he is NOT an Engineer, this is a big continuity issue with me and it's so obvious that I have to beleive that Ridley is pulling our leg on a lot of that issue, so to speak.
But the Space Jockey is somehow related to the Engineers, look at the ships..same general configuration, but different but also connected in some way, absolutely.
The Space Jockeys may have been a species altered by the creators of the Engineers...freed from their ships. Or maybe the Engineers rebelled against their creators and freed themselves from that role...not sure...just not enough information there
Jul-06-2012 12:31 AM
Good post and thoughts, deftones1986
Jul-04-2012 8:54 PM
This does all kinds of things to my mind punx, I have to wait for it to settle down lol...it may take a while! Thanks for sharing ! WOW
Jul-04-2012 8:14 PM
I have been enlightned by a guiding light...Engineering...post it up, I never expected something off the Sci Fi topics..
Jul-04-2012 7:21 PM
Engineering..check this out..
Now when Kingdom of Heaven came out, of course I went to see it, and it was great, Ridley is fantastic at historical films, so what if he fudges the facts a little here and there...anyways, loved the film and yes bought the DVD and I liked it too...loads to talk about in this film.
Time goes by, and then the DC comes out and my son says you want it? I say if there's any new stuff, sure.
Sit down, turn it on, and what I see......smiles. I had seen it in the theater once, watched the DVD maybe 3 times and a lot of time had gone by and forgotten quite a bit so the DC was FRESHHHHH
One of the top 5 best films Ridley has done and I own them all and have seen them all in the theater starting with Alien.
Don't know what TL:DR is lol
Jul-04-2012 1:32 PM
The Forever War...by Joe Haldeman...never been filmed and Ridley and Fox have the rights!
All works by Bradbury, Heinlein, Clarke, Wells, Asimov..Galactic Derelict by Andre Norton....Dune, Dick, Serling,Crichton, Anderson, on and on...
Jul-04-2012 12:35 PM
Spiders...big ones little ones...all of them..I'm looking around for them right now because they could be anywhere and usually are.
I don't like them dropping on me.
I don't like their webs in my way when I walk.
I don't like them on walls.
I don't like them looking at me.
There's more....but right now I gotta keep looking for them.
Jul-04-2012 12:19 AM
Tremayne....you've got a crack in your head....might want to get that looked after
Jul-04-2012 12:12 AM
If she has a computer or a friend with a computer, shes probably already seen much much more than the most disturbing parts of this film.
Jul-03-2012 9:20 PM
Well, I saw Lost, all of it....and it wasnt that the individual episodes were not written well because on the whole, they were...but what dragged it down was dragging it out like the producers did. And the ending of the series...the producers denied for years that the show would end as it did.
I see less the hand of Lindelof here and more the hand of Ridley..clearly he was aware of LOST, maybe not a fan, but admired it's real ability to cast atmosphere very well.
Youre seeing a great many more things in Prometheus because of it's compressed nature as opposed to waiting weeks or years for something in LOST...but you get the same sense of things that are there and you know they are connected and youre getting dazzled visually while youre trying to organize it all in real time sitting in the theater....its a rush, it really is...some people dont have the patience, nothing wrong with them at all, its just not for them
Jul-03-2012 8:39 PM
Thanks for the report, curious about people willing to make a few trips to the theater before it leaves, I think it makes a world of difference in understanding many things..including accepting that some things were meant to be mysteries.
Jul-03-2012 8:32 PM
Its the tourists...them...neeeeeeed guests...collapsing from the strain of an intellegence free environment
Jul-03-2012 7:25 PM
I had to show up sometime, guys...out of bacon, yanno...
Jul-03-2012 7:16 PM
Shaw and David will never meet what Shaw believes to be a God. Might as well be that cat.
Jul-03-2012 4:47 PM
Yeah Matt we know we know...you didn't like it...you've already posted your view in yet another post instead of putting up your own thread like everybody else...what's the point and who's listening.
Jul-03-2012 3:19 PM
I'm sure the Deacon is a girl, I mean...now THAT'S an entrance!